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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[That reminds me, I could go for a ham sandwich right now in fact...]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon Miller]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 10:18PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[Oh shoot, I was just thinking that, too!<br><br>Man, all I got out of this entire article was a food craving!  When did I last eat!?<br><br>Umm, still cautiously optimistic about Android...]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Spike]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 10th 2007 4:51PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[Thats great, but when are they gonna explain what the friggin thing is?!?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jake E.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 10:22PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[It's a "mobile cell phone application that allows you to browse the Internet" according to my local news.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[JosephMohmed]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 10:37PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA["Just some words on paper" < "Just some tongue on a face"]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[JS]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 10:24PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[I would really like to see if anyone can make a phone that has a better browsing experience than the iPhone. Mind you I totally think it's possible (for starters ditch the QVGA fixation take advantage of the much higher resolution screens that have been demonstrated by Sanyo/Epson and Samsung).<br><br>An instant voicemail send feature would be nice too.<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Johan S]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 10:43PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[The biggest drawback any device has is being carrier specific. That is a drawback for both the consumer and the device OEM. <br><br>Take the iPhone for example. Yes, Apple is getting crazy kickbacks from AT&T, but they would move many exponentially more units were they sold at all carrier outlets.<br><br>While the whole Google announcement was extremely underwhelming, they could have something if they can truly keep the platform open - both software and carrier wise.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[RyanTV]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 10:48PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[John Dvorak + Steve Ballmer = The 2 biggest douche bag blowhards in the tech industry<br><br>Seriously, all these guys know how to do is talk shit.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[peestandingup]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 10:56PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[And one of them knows how to make billions.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[DAZA]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 10th 2007 6:19AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[I recall the same fanfare for Symbian.  IMO, Symbian UIQ is still one of the most intuitive, complete and mature OS's for smart phones.  But where is it? Just because it's "open" and supported by big players doesn't mean diddly.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chip]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 11:39PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[Since when is Symbian "open"?<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[john]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 9th 2007 11:59PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[Isn't that kind of the point? Android will hopefully be an open operating system for mobile devices rather than an "open" operating system for mobile devices.<br><br>Does Google have the resources to railroad a 34 company committee into a successful Open Source project? Out of all the negative responses Engadget has collected in this post, that really the most interesting and insightful question raised.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dylan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 10th 2007 8:32AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[From their press releases:<br>About Symbian Limited<br><br>Symbian is a software licensing company that develops and licenses Symbian OS, the market-leading open operating system for advanced, data-enabled mobile phones known as smartphones.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chip]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 10th 2007 2:33AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[<br>So, does anyone a track record for either Balmer's prognostications, or Dvorak's?  Because, frankly, the only thing I ever hear them spouting is BS about "x will be a flop" (and then it isn't) or "y will be a major transformation for the industry" (and then it isn't).<br><br>I think the industry would get more value out of using them for a wind energy source than anything else.<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[john]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 10th 2007 12:01AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[Agreed.  Someone needs to start submitting Dvorak's predictions to Whoswrong.com<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Randy]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 10th 2007 10:04AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[Additional money quote "When I see a bunch of talkers jumping on some if-you-haven't-already-known hot topic to gain attention, I actually laugh".]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[liin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 10th 2007 12:54AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[You guys are just lowering the discourse by even mentioning John Dvorak's "analysis" of anything tech related, much less "starting off" with him. He brings nothing to the discussion, and its disappointing to see Engadget stooping to using him; what next, a weekly column of Rob Enderle's take on Technology Trends? <br><br>Christ.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[MacBookOwner]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 10th 2007 12:58AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[I think android is doing for the cellphone industry what linux\unix has done with the personal computers. Making it possible for those who give a sh** and don't like the way things are to make a change. If not for the greater good, atleast it'll make their own life a little easier.<br><br>For those who are actually excited to see a change in the mobile phone industry thats not fruit branded check www.ohadev.net. ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[www.ohadev.net]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 10th 2007 1:13AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[I think android is doing for the cellphone industry what linux\unix has done with the personal computers. Making it possible for those who give a sh** and don't like the way things are to make a change. If not for the greater good, atleast it'll make their own life a little easier.<br><br>For those who are actually excited to see a change in the mobile phone industry thats not fruit branded check <a href="http://www.ohadev.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.ohadev.net</a>.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[www.ohadev.net]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 10th 2007 1:14AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[What crack are you smoking? Symbian is a joke. Even developers who specialize on Symbian hate it. The two greatest things Android could accomplish is to rally Linux-based efforts around a common platform, and to kill off Symbian.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[len]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 10th 2007 1:15AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[on Paper or the Net, The Android sounds assume..until you hear the part about the carriers having the last say about about features. So in the end it wont be any different than the generic OS that runs on many phones...well except for the Google logo embeded throught the menus, links to the web and on the outter body of the device. same ol' BS with a fancy logo. i will stick to my IPhone and Nokia/Symbian.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Cellenin]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 10th 2007 11:45PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[Isn't it next week we'll see the release of the code? And it'll take a few moments for eager developers to compile different demos on virtual machines and on existing cell phones. I think we'll see what this thing can do much sooner than in 2008. I'm looking forward to it. But I think the biggest drawback with an open platform that will be customized for every platform that it is on is that one of the main points of the OS won't work. They want an openness as with PC's and Macs, install any program you want... but in fact there is no app that is "Android proof" since all iterations of Android will be different. You can't expect an Android app to work on any Android platform.. this might turn confusing. It's not like "this is compatible with Windows".. it's more like "this is compatible with Motorola's Android Phone.. but not the gPhone, and works to some extent on the whateverPhone" etc..]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Andreas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 10th 2007 5:07AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[Better to have choices than not - but who the hell knows - because the hardware could be made to receive  streaming google data all the time - motion sensor ad reels when i'm talking on my flip phone with the outer LCD updating itself while I am on a call. Let me patent, trademark, copyright that right now - I had the first idea - it belongs to me - pay me!<br><br>Judas phone be damned it only has one LCD - booo - no streaming ad reels for you - bah!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[skhawaja]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 10th 2007 5:34AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[I'm a bit surprised how many will come to defend Google's Android without knowing anything or seeing any prototype. Take a moment. Clear out the smokes. All we got from that conference = a bunch of key people congratulates themselves. Nothing more. As open as Google makes Android sounds, before acquiring a significant market share (at least 2010 and beyond), Android is still another proprietary system/ecosystem.<br><br>Regarding to John Dvorak + Steve Ballmer, they're douche bags all right. It's tough to find more negative people than those two around silicon valley.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Javaflash]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 10th 2007 8:04AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[Steve shows a rigged demo six months before product release: ZOMG the iPhone is awesome!<br><br>People point out its known limitations, which were explicitly stated by Apple: Shut up! It's not out yet! You don't know what Apple's plans are! The iPhone will do everything!<br><br>The iPhone is then exactly what Apple told us it would be.<br><br>Google announces Android: *yawn*<br><br>Morons criticize it based on their ridiculously poor understanding of mobile phones and mobile software: They're right! It is a press release! It's vaporware! Why are you defending it? How can you possibly believe what Google is telling us?<br><br>Unlike the iPhone, an SDK for Android will be available in two days. We'll know exactly what it is capable off, and we won't have to hack it to use it to its full potential. When the first device is on the market, an "ecosystem" for it will already exist.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[len]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 10th 2007 12:13PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[Mad props Engadget for calling Scoble and Endearle "media members" instead of "journalists."<br><br>It's a fine distinction, but a telling and important one.  Kudos to you, and your website!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[AdamY]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 10th 2007 9:00AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[I guess I'll go renew my contract now.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Jacobs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 10th 2007 1:03PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[HAY I like reading John Dvorak columns, even if he hates cell phones]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[applefreak]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 10th 2007 1:48PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[Google has a reputation to take care of. They are currently seen as incredibly good, almost godlike, at engineering. When they go out and announce something that generates a lot of buzz, they are obliged to make something good of it or lose valuable goodwill. Apple may be in the same situation.<br><br>I think this is why many people in the forums, who would normally scoff at a boring press release like the one we saw, are excited about this. If Microsoft announced something as the next big world changing thing and it turned out to suck, nobody would be surprised and MS would not lose any reputation. Google still has something to lose. They still have not released anything embarrassing.<br><br>It will surely take years to significantly break through with a mobile OS, but I personally believe that more phones running Android will be sold than, say, OSX in 2009.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[engadget.z.gurgeh]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 11th 2007 5:27AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[Len, why people hack the "awesome" iPhone? Please think about that question before labeling others.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Javaflash]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 10th 2007 1:56PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[Android would be so f!*]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Drew]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 10th 2007 11:49PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Checking in with the pundits on Android and the Open Handset Alliance]]></title><link>http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/checking-in-with-the-pundits-on-android-the-open-handset-allia/</guid><description><![CDATA[Apparently my comment got caught short but i was saying that it would be awesome if it worked like linux.  Especially if you could unlock a compatible phone to android.  All dreams right now but that's all we got to go on.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Drew]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Nov 10th 2007 11:51PM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>