Oh dear.....you really think the end is near for the PS3? We'll see a year from now. And I predict that the Playstation brand will get stronger and stronger.
We shall see.......you do realise that the 360 has shipped 11 million units, not 110 million right? Don't get too comfortable. And don't forget, it was the only 'next-gen' console on the market for some time.
Furthermore, the extremely bad press Microsoft has had recently will hurt them. Probably already is.
PS - why is it that posts in favour of Playstation 3 get 'lowest ranked' on here? Hmmmmm I wonder why that is......
@Rob The PS3's library is better than the Xbox 360's was after one year. The PS3's library after two years will easily be better than the Xbox 360's after two years.
@Dragod The Xbox 360 is at 10 million because it had one year without competition. Since the other consoles have launched, Xbox 360 sales have plummeted. That's why Peter Moore left.
For the first six months of 2007, the Xbox 360 has shipped only 1.3 million worldwide (down 60% from 2006). The PS3 has shipped over 4 million. The Wii has shipped over 6 million. http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=126688
The reason the Xbox 360 seems so popular on the geeky sites is because Xbox 360 owners are losers and resent anything cool or popular like Sony. The Xbox 360 is not a mainstream system and when the far cooler PS3 drops to $399 within less than a year it's going to stomp the Xbox 360 into the ground.
Maybe it is just me, but Sony could have released the PS3 at the same time as the Xbox 360 if they knew what they were doing. Using, "Oh, but the Xbox has been out for a year longer" is an awful excuse.
Erm, do you honestly think Sony dos'nt know what it's doing when it comes to game consoles? Erm....yeh, good joke.
And you say Sony should/could have released the PS3 at the same time as the XBox360? Maybe Sony did'nt want to have chronic hardware problems and took their time to ensure the consumer got a high quality and dependable piece of hardware.....
Yeah, cause it's a solid system with an awesome lineup. It's so good they haven't even sold 5 million yet, the Wii just broke 10 million and is only a few hundred thousand behind Xbox. Nintendo haven't even released any of their big games yet, this Christmas should be fun!
My point is that Playstation 3 will sell many consoles when Sony floods the market with games. That much is obvious, why do you not see that? Or do you choose not to?
Am I right in thinking that Sony somehow believed that they would be able to use the Cell processor for graphics, but decided after years of time wasting that it was never going to work and shoved a GPU in at the last moment. Apart from this, the only other thing which held it back was the inclusion of Blu-Ray, and the shortage of diodes. As I said, if Sony knew what they were doing they would never have made these juvenile mistakes, and wouldn't have to use that excuse.
If you think RSX was simply slapped inside the box at the last minute you're living in dreamland. RSX was designed and optimised to work in sync with the Cell processor. Do you honestly think something like that just dropped out of thin air at the last minute? Those things take years to develop from conception to integration within a complex system such as Playstation 3. That goes for all electronic hardware. The blu-diode was an issue to begin with but those are hurdles that you face when dealing with new technology. It certainly dos'nt mean a company dos'nt know what it's doing! Sony was perceived to look bad by some people due to the fact that Microsoft got the jump on them by releasing their product to market too early. An early release that they are now, quite literally, paying for. Furthermore, it is only in recent months that Microsoft has gone back and added ommissions such as HDMI, etc. Honestly, you've got the wrong company if you say Sony have no clue, you really have.
@ Drew
1. The games set for release in 2007. How is that a rumour? 2. Sony possibly buying Rockstar. Yep i'll agree with you on that one. Probably won't happen. 3. Bioshock on PS3. It's in production. Only a timed exclusive for Microsoft.
So that makes only a third of my post being rumour.
"The RSX was designed to work in parallel with the Cell processor"
I love it when people argue about the PS3's GPU. For one thing, PC graphics are improved at least once a month, meaning that NVIDIA and ATI are constantly coming out with new and better products, products that are better than the RSX. If you own a PC, you can upgrade the graphics card yourself, simple. If you own a PS3 however, you're stuck with the soon-to-be-outdated RSX. Same thing for CPUs as well. They may clame the PS3 to be "the future", but it will soon be outdated, that's when PS4 comes in
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Don't worry Microsoft, it will catch up to the PS3 someday...
:)
Don't worry, the PS3 will have a game lineup someday.
Yep, once they bundle it with the HD-DVD drive and sell it for the same price. Until then it's PS3 1, XBox 0.
Shouldn't that be: XBox 11+ million, PS3 6 million?
Yes, I must have missed the part where PS3 sold 10m consoles, was cheaper, and had an amazing line-up of games...
Oh dear.....you really think the end is near for the PS3? We'll see a year from now. And I predict that the Playstation brand will get stronger and stronger.
We shall see.......you do realise that the 360 has shipped 11 million units, not 110 million right? Don't get too comfortable. And don't forget, it was the only 'next-gen' console on the market for some time.
Furthermore, the extremely bad press Microsoft has had recently will hurt them. Probably already is.
PS - why is it that posts in favour of Playstation 3 get 'lowest ranked' on here?
Hmmmmm I wonder why that is......
@Rob
The PS3's library is better than the Xbox 360's was after one year. The PS3's library after two years will easily be better than the Xbox 360's after two years.
@Dragod
The Xbox 360 is at 10 million because it had one year without competition. Since the other consoles have launched, Xbox 360 sales have plummeted. That's why Peter Moore left.
For the first six months of 2007, the Xbox 360 has shipped only 1.3 million worldwide (down 60% from 2006). The PS3 has shipped over 4 million. The Wii has shipped over 6 million.
http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=126688
The reason the Xbox 360 seems so popular on the geeky sites is because Xbox 360 owners are losers and resent anything cool or popular like Sony. The Xbox 360 is not a mainstream system and when the far cooler PS3 drops to $399 within less than a year it's going to stomp the Xbox 360 into the ground.
Maybe it is just me, but Sony could have released the PS3 at the same time as the Xbox 360 if they knew what they were doing. Using, "Oh, but the Xbox has been out for a year longer" is an awful excuse.
@ AdvWar ^^
Erm, do you honestly think Sony dos'nt know what it's doing when it comes to game consoles? Erm....yeh, good joke.
And you say Sony should/could have released the PS3 at the same time as the XBox360? Maybe Sony did'nt want to have chronic hardware problems and took their time to ensure the consumer got a high quality and dependable piece of hardware.....
Yeah, cause it's a solid system with an awesome lineup. It's so good they haven't even sold 5 million yet, the Wii just broke 10 million and is only a few hundred thousand behind Xbox. Nintendo haven't even released any of their big games yet, this Christmas should be fun!
@ boo ^ ^
And your point is?
PS3 games for 2007 release : http://www.psu.com/PS3-2007-Upcoming-Releases--a878-p0.php
Possibility of Sony buying Rockstar Games : http://www.psu.com/Rumor-Control--Sony-To-Buy-Rockstar-News--a928-p0.php
Bioshock now coming to PS3 : http://www.psu.com/Rumor-Control--Bioshock-For-PS3-(Spring-2008)-News--a927-p0.php
My point is that Playstation 3 will sell many consoles when Sony floods the market with games. That much is obvious, why do you not see that? Or do you choose not to?
Phil
Am I right in thinking that Sony somehow believed that they would be able to use the Cell processor for graphics, but decided after years of time wasting that it was never going to work and shoved a GPU in at the last moment. Apart from this, the only other thing which held it back was the inclusion of Blu-Ray, and the shortage of diodes. As I said, if Sony knew what they were doing they would never have made these juvenile mistakes, and wouldn't have to use that excuse.
I LOVE how half the crap Phil posted is RUMORS.
I am no fanboy, but come on.
@ AdvWar
If you think RSX was simply slapped inside the box at the last minute you're living in dreamland. RSX was designed and optimised to work in sync with the Cell processor. Do you honestly think something like that just dropped out of thin air at the last minute? Those things take years to develop from conception to integration within a complex system such as Playstation 3. That goes for all electronic hardware.
The blu-diode was an issue to begin with but those are hurdles that you face when dealing with new technology. It certainly dos'nt mean a company dos'nt know what it's doing!
Sony was perceived to look bad by some people due to the fact that Microsoft got the jump on them by releasing their product to market too early. An early release that they are now, quite literally, paying for. Furthermore, it is only in recent months that Microsoft has gone back and added ommissions such as HDMI, etc. Honestly, you've got the wrong company if you say Sony have no clue, you really have.
@ Drew
1. The games set for release in 2007. How is that a rumour?
2. Sony possibly buying Rockstar. Yep i'll agree with you on that one. Probably won't happen.
3. Bioshock on PS3. It's in production. Only a timed exclusive for Microsoft.
So that makes only a third of my post being rumour.
Who cares? It is HDMI 1.2, not 1.3 on the PS3. So you can't get 1080p or 7.1 surround.
@ dfjet ^ ^
Wrong.....completely.......next.
@Phil
"The RSX was designed to work in parallel with the Cell processor"
I love it when people argue about the PS3's GPU. For one thing, PC graphics are improved at least once a month, meaning that NVIDIA and ATI are constantly coming out with new and better products, products that are better than the RSX. If you own a PC, you can upgrade the graphics card yourself, simple. If you own a PS3 however, you're stuck with the soon-to-be-outdated RSX. Same thing for CPUs as well. They may clame the PS3 to be "the future", but it will soon be outdated, that's when PS4 comes in