Treo 650 memory usage problems?
posted November 19th 2004 6:35AM
There are a lot of advantages to the new Treo 650 using non-volatile memory, like that if you totally drain its
battery you won't lose all of your data, but it turns out there is one potentially very frustrating downside, too: you
can't squeeze as much data into the same 32MB of storage space that you had on the Treo 600. Some new owners who have
upgraded from the Treo 600 are reporting that when they sync the data from their old Treo onto their new one that
applications and files that oreviously took up, say, 132k of space now take up 859k of space. The reason is that
non-volatile memory stores data in 512 byte chunks, no matter how small it is, so that applications (especially
databases) end up taking up a lot more room on the Treo 650 than they did on the Treo 600. Wouldn't be such a big deal
if palmOne had done what everyone had expected them to and doubled the RAM on the Treo 650 to 64MB, but anyone who was
stretched thin on the Treo 600 is definitely not going to be happy.
[Thanks, Jim]
Well, PalmOne better fix this before distributing the GSM 650 in Europe, lest they sell even LESS 650s than the 600!
i can't believe i even wasted saliva and time waiting on this thing. bah. crap.
things to do before i like it again:
1) include wifi... or include the ability to at least add it ... preferrably without loosing the SD slot.
2) fix this new issue. or double the RAM... 32MB? rrright.
3) do not cripple the bluetooth. at all. ever.
4) slightly less sucky camera.
5) do all that and not jack up the price for the 'upgrade' to what it should have had since they announced it.
This is not good... this could make this thing unusable. I know my memory is nearly maxed out, and I don't put near as much stuff on as some people.
PalmOne is ridiculous here - I mean I can buy a 128MB flash memory USB stick for $25, but Palmone only puts 32MB in a $600 smartphone????
oh wow, this is a dealbreaker for treo 650 man!
If you want to be picky about it.
"Some new owners who have upgraded from the Treo 600 are reporting that when they sync [...]"
How do we know that this is the case for ALL treo 650s, some does not mean all? What about moving the applications that are huge onto your SD memory card (that's what I do on the treo 600)?
Is this an official statement from Palm one? Is it fixable? Sounds like it's a cluster size issue, that should be fixable with somekind of firmware.
And 010111, I will try to provide you with the answers that were given to us at the conference held in DC by palm one specifically for the treo (which ends up being 350 bucks, if you actually attend).
"1) include wifi... or include the ability to at least add it ... preferrably without loosing the SD slot."
The ability for Wifi is there. The constraint is no longer the power capabilities of the SD card slot, but now it's a matter of making the wifi radio components work alongside the Cell phone Radio components of the treo (think about it).
"2) fix this new issue. or double the RAM... 32MB? rrright."
32MB is nothing, i'll agree, but if you have mission critical apps, you will want to invest into a SD memory card, that just makes more sense.
"3) do not cripple the bluetooth. at all. ever. "
There is no need to assume bluetooth will be crippled. Bluetooth has been added, everyone can rejoice now.
"4) slightly less sucky camera."
I played with the new camera, and I have to say it's amazing. Palmone really did do their research on upgrading the value of the WHOLE unit as opposed to just the features themselves.
"5) do all that and not jack up the price for the 'upgrade' to what it should have had since they announced it."
Palm one has been pretty good about posting fixes for free. I dont know where you got this notion of a price increase for a fix. That's MS, not P1.
That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
I recently got a 1 GB SD card ($50) and it's just WAITING to be inserted into my preordered Treo 650. All you Treo hatas are just trying trying to rationalize your jealousy. Cough up the 600 bones and enjoy the best smartphone on the planet, G.
Yeah, 64 MB would be nice, but is even THAT enough (especially now that it does video and reasonable pics?) Nah, I'll make do with the 32 and will install all the rest onto the spacious gig.
Where did you get your 1 GB SD card from, please share.
I just "upgraded" from the Sprint Treo 600 to the Treo 650. Major disappointment so far. The installation of GoodLink, a drug database and the Adobe reader immediately maxed out the base memory. The SD expansion card is problematic for some programs. The power cord interface seems flimsy as compared to the Treo 600. I've already advised my colleagues to hold off purchasing the Treo 650 pending improvement of the memory usage issues.
Got the card a few months back at J&R, they had a sale. And the card is fast too - fast enough for excellent recording of voice dictation without compression.
Question: All I want to do on the Treo 650 is to have all of my addresses and all of my calendar stored in memory just like I have on my present Palm T2. My goal is tgo carry just one device, not a phone and a Palm.
Anything else like email and other features are great but not necessary.
Will I be able to do that or should I just buy a 600?
Any comments will be appreciated.
Question: All I want to do on the Treo 650 is to have all of my addresses and all of my calendar stored in memory just like I have on my present Palm T2. My goal is tgo carry just one device, not a phone and a Palm.
Anything else like email and other features are great but not necessary.
Will I be able to do that or should I just buy a 600?
Any comments will be appreciated.
Check out Good Technology Joe they have a product that will blow you away and solve your dual device problem.
Palm is now giving away a 120MB SD chip free for the asking to all Treo 650 owners.
Palm is now giving away a 120MB SD chip free for the asking to all Treo 650 owners.
i've just order an sd memory card for ma treo and i dont if tha one ive order was compatible wit ma treo can anybody help on this
I am getting a treo 650 via cingular, and am a bit worried. I have tried 2 different phones, and both did not work. The first would not connect to network, and kept turning on and off, and the second, the stylus would not work in the upper left corner.
It seems to me that I either have real bad luck, got 2 phones from the same batch, or these phones are problematic for many.
Also, was hoping to find somewhere peoples comments on cell reception compared to other phones, but can not seem to find any information. Does anyone have any comments on this?
Got a Treo 650 lately. This is not working well. As soon as I put in a SIM Card an start the phone it just dies or re-boots. Tried several SIM cards, same result. Same after a complete device swap. Error message after a crash: "A reset was caused at xxx while running xxx: HALRadioAcDc.c, Line:441, Host wake not asserted in time". Any Help??
Got a Treo 650 lately. This is not working well. As soon as I put in a SIM Card an start the phone it just dies or re-boots. Tried several SIM cards, same result. Same after a complete device swap. Error message after a crash: "A reset was caused at xxx while running xxx: HALRadioAcDc.c, Line:441, Host wake not asserted in time". Any Help??
I'm getting a 650 next week. I'm looking to buy an SD card. Does anyone know if it is worth the money to buy the faster cards? How fast can the Treo 650 read/write the card?
I am trying to figure out how much additional memory to add to my Treo 600--any suggestions. I mainly need it for storage of more email and attachments. Also any suggestions for attachment document readers. (I use a Mac if that makes a difference.) I'm using Snapper mail which I like.
Id wait for a better phone and a better OS before buying a 650 or 600. Too many bad points.
My Treo very often resets itself. Error message after a crash: "A reset was caused at xxx while running xxx: HALRadioAcDc.c, Line:441, Host wake not asserted in time". Any Help??
I couldnt see any rules up to now; sometimes telephone works fine, but very often phone-calls are interrupted suddenly by a reset.
Hardware or Firmware Problems??? I cannot find it out. Please help me!
I have the same error occurring and have yet to find an answer, but will post one when i do.
The Treo 650 is well known for these rebooting problems. However Palm Customer support told me that they have found the cause and have a solution available.
Apparently the SIM card carrier is loose and can cause random poor connections hence the reboot.
They will send a little mod to you if you call them with details etc
Hope that helps
My Treo phone reset every three hours. Does anybody know why?