Switched On: Microsoft refreshes WebTV for a curious comeback
Each week Ross Rubin contributes Switched On, a weekly column about the future of technology,
multimedia, and digital entertainment. Last week he asked TiVo to take a long, hard look in the mirror about their
subscription fees:
To relive a few literal pages of dotcom-era history, point that Web browser to artemis.com and see the humble Web beginnings of the company that came out of stealth operation in 1996 as WebTV Networks. Formed by ex-Apple superstars Steve Perlman (who would again seek to remake TV with the Moxi Media Center), Bruce Leak, and the late Phil Goldman, WebTV was to be the bridge for that part of the population that wanted to access e-mail and the Web but who were too intimidated to use a PC. The first WebTV "net-top boxes" were introduced by Sony and Philips, the same duo that would later introduce and also ultimately abandon digital video recorders powered by another subscription-minded startup called TiVo.
After eight years, a forgettable foray into interactive television dubbed WebTV Plus, and a $425 million acquisition, what is now MSN TV has seen many transitions in its time at Microsoft. Its subscription base, however, has languished considerably from its apex of a million scattered subscribers. With AOL having abandoned its TV-based Internet access product AOLTV, it's a good bet that WebTV would have been put to rest long ago had it not hid among the lint in the ample pockets of Microsoft. MSN TV's survival is still a longshot, but it is not yet ready to fade to black.
Unlike the Web site for Ceiva, another subscription-driven hardware product aimed at older users, msntv.com features no hint of the Geritol generation eagerly awaiting the latest photos of their grandkids. With its ground-up recreation of the device, Microsoft has expanded the scope of MSN TV 2 and turned it into a digital media receiver for streaming music and photos from multiple PCs around the house; what they now awkwardly call an Internet and Media Player. Unfortunately, at the risk of sounding like a player-hater, the interface for media sharing isnt very polished; some client software for the PCs would probably help. The MSN TV 2s digital media receiver interface diverges greatly from the streamlined interface of Windows XP Media Center as well as the standalone and Xbox-based Media Center Extenders.
Furthermore, a USB-based Wi-Fi adapter just adds more to the pricetag and the MSN TV 2 provides no facility for typing in a hidden SSID of an access point. MSN TV 2 can also display photos from a flash card, but again you have to add a reader via USB. The device itself, an asymmetrical silver and white box, is guaranteed to match nothing in your A/V environment unless you keep some late-model Apple gear near your television just in case you need it.
The interface has lost some of the simplicity and charm of WebTVs, as well. With its new support for broadband and Internet Explorer 6 rendering engine, though, the product displays most Web pages surprisingly well and has long supported Flash, so you can read Strong Bads e-mails as well as your own. Less surprising is that other media file formats that compete with Microsofts own (such as QuickTime) are not supported, but to its credit it does handle MP3 with aplomb. Some secure banking and financial sites also work, but shamefully MSNTV 2 cant manage Outlook Web Access at all.
The Web itself has also changed for the better since WebTVs heyday. After being attracted to lots of gimmicky design elements and plug-ins, more Web sites are embracing the minimalist stylings of leading sites such as craigslist, Google, and many blogs. Indeed, the simple designs and niche content of blogs make them the perfect Internet television content. Several blog aggregation Web sites work nicely on the device, but Microsoft should have provided an RSS reader. Forget about the grandparents. Combined with short video clips, Internet radio, and streamed network music support, the MSN TV 2 may be the worlds best decaffeinated geek workout accessory.
Artemis was the goddess of the hunt, and MSN TVs continues. The MSN TV 2 is a worthwhile, fun and medium-appropriate online experience, but its bifurcated target market may not carry the day. The remainder of WebTVs core audience will be a tough sell to upgrade since they probably enjoy the stability of their online experience and arent likely to have broadband or a home network. On the other hand, the technophiles are likely to frown on MSN TV as being limited.
This is a nice-to-have product that simply wont command its price for most users. Microsoft (or a competitor such as Opera Software) would serve consumers well by offering a good TV browser into other initiatives, particularly XP Media Center. It would be a great complement to the standalone TV-optimized Web sites being created for Microsofts modern-day living room beachhead.
[You can also read Engadgets Gear Eye review of the MSN TV 2.]
Ross Rubin is director of industry analysis at NPD Techworld, a division of market research and analysis provider The NPD Group. Views expressed in Switched On, however, are his own. Feedback is welcome at fliptheswitch@gmail.com.



















Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Bill Bercik @ Dec 19th 2005 1:03AM
I wonder why the Playstation or GameCube doesn't come with something like the PlanetWeb web browser that came with the Sega Dreamcast. That Web Browser wasn't all that bad.
bob @ Dec 19th 2005 1:03AM
As I see it from the view of an old webtv user, The new webtv2 is to replicate the plus to some degree, right? Well I wonder where? the cost has gone up it seems The subscription rate has gone up cable networking is required. GOOD you got faster. But where Free airwaves were used before for the TV viewing the user now pYS OUT THE ass for it. yea grate you got faster signals. But so what you can not play bridge on MSN games or on Yahoo, so many other seemingly simple things as the WEBTV coommunities web page are what GONE? Or is it just that I bought the basic MSNtv too early? I am GREATLY disapointed in MSNTV. I got it for the wife, and when I tried to pass the old machine over to Mother I could not find a Keyboard. OK you are tiered of hearing me moan. if not I can give a few mor bits of S***.
Jim Hutchinson @ Dec 19th 2005 1:03AM
Afer many years of
webtv plus service,
my decision to upgrade was based on
my decision to buy a
PC. Not wanting to
part with what has
become the most comfortabe way around the web and
you just cant't beat
the ease of webtv's
Email service. After
MSN's offer of the
One Plan that allows
both ISP and webtv
access for the same
price but fails to specify that MSNtv2
is excluded from this on screen offer. After I bought MSNtv2 I was
missing my plus unit
from day one. Yes it
plays great music but so do many other
devices in my home.
After learning that
the One Plan is only
available to MSNtv
and that all of the
cable features were
removed, not to mention the many bugs that were a real problem. I decided to return to
the former and from
my point of view stable service of webtv plus. It is hard to believe that
Microsoft would release a product to
market before fully
testing it. Many do
find it to be an upgrade but for me it was a downgrade.
It would have made
more sense to upgrade the exisiting system MSN
say's can't be done
but for some reason
I just don't beleive
them. Executives.
Bob Bayard @ Dec 19th 2005 1:03AM
Hi:
Have had WebTVplus for 7 years--very impressed with it's interactive TV capability- last year got a laptop, kept 'plus'--
I then tried Broadband and was told Msntv2 was an upgrade and could be used---
The '2' has NO interactive TV ability----------I went back to dial-up and WebTvPlus---!!!!!
Regards,
Bob Bayard
Robert Brewster @ Dec 19th 2005 1:03AM
I have had MSN TV 2 since it came out. At first it was faster than my older webtv, now it just about brings on anxiety attacks. As I write, this is the second night my email has crashed again, im getting missed key strokes, AGAIN, and MSN does not seem to care at all! Other users report the same problems,but MSN won't do anything. I am very sorry for spendin my money on these goofballs, steer clear of MSN TV. I will get a small computer and I will not use MSN as my net provider.