Samsung YP-C1 MP3 player deets
by Barb Dybwad 
posted Mar 28th 2005 at 2:00PM
So Samsung has popped out a veritable fleet of new
players in the past couple of weeks, and some details have surfaced on the Samsung website about the new YEPP YP-C1 (it
came down in Marketing to a choice between YEPP and NOPP and we think they picked the winning name for their player
series). It's gonna come in three colors (grey, red, and yellow), playback MP3, WMA, and OGG, plus sport an FM tuner
and voice recorder. More pics follow.
Filed under: Portable Audio
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Jnetty @ Dec 19th 2005 1:22AM
How much memory does it come with.
atobe @ Dec 19th 2005 1:22AM
looks kinda bulky yeah how much mem does it have
Michael G @ Dec 19th 2005 1:22AM
Does it have a line in for recording? Like the iRiver?
Autobus @ Dec 19th 2005 1:22AM
That mic button looks like it would always be causing problems. Its huge and looks like you'd always be accidentally hitting it.
B @ Dec 19th 2005 1:22AM
That's not the button, that's the microphone. the record button is on the side next to the play and stop buttons. For line in, I would have to guess no.
Bikks @ Dec 19th 2005 1:22AM
I think it has line-in, if you look at the first pic, it says "enc" on the USB protection-thingy, i think the line-in is under there too
Gary Goldberg @ Dec 19th 2005 1:22AM
If it were larger it would look like one of those handheld communicators from Space:1999. Maybe they can get Martin Landau to present it in ads.
TalkinMan @ Dec 19th 2005 1:22AM
In a little tiny display, they actually take space to show the bit rate of the music being played? I'm guessing that "192k" is the encoding. I'm pretty happy with my Shuffle, if the choice is to have to manage this gizmo with that little tiny display.
That's kinda loopy. Why waste display space? I guess it's appropriate they're playing a song called "Don't know."
Tim @ Dec 19th 2005 1:22AM
Personally I think it looks great, similar in some ways to my iAudio which I love. The line in is great for podcasting if it has it.
CF18 @ Dec 19th 2005 1:22AM
Sigh... why do they still have the useless A-B button?
In previous version YP-MT6 that 192k space is used for total tracks in the current playlist: e.g. 002/123
Vic Healey @ Dec 19th 2005 1:22AM
BATTERY IGNORANCE HURTS
I am a ham radio operator and use many types of portable electronics. I have had considerable experience with different types of batteries and battery configurations.
Apples MP3 design with a proprietary battery that is not user replaceable is a major reason not to buy an iPod of any sort. The replacement battery is another revenue stream for Apple but the reason that they chose the non replaceable battery was to ease their design problem of making the unit as slim as possible and not have a complicated to manufacture case. Look at any PDA (like a Toshiba) with a non replaceable battery compared to one (most of the others) with a replaceable battery. Which is slimmer and lighter in weight?
The Toshiba - hands down!
Which MP3 player is the slimmest and lightest? The one with a proprietary non replaceable battery!
That said there are other design factors such as ease of use that clearly make the iPod the choice of many. I am sure that a good number of these would reject the iPod if they knew the truth about Apples policy on battery replacement.
What is so bad about getting a replacement battery installed by Apple? They DO NOT send back the same iPod you may have been carefully handling for years. You get someone elses iPod which may have scratches and definitely doesnt have your music on it. This isnt so bad with a flash player (you have your music backed up on your computer using ITunes dont you) but a major downside to owning a HD based iPod. Hard disks in portable electronics are subject to damage do to G-shock every time you drop it. Driving down a rough road in a any vehicle with a stiff truck like suspension will also damage any iPods hard disk. Taking it to the gym and jogging also introduce shock that will damage it over time. A user who is aware of this can mitigate this type of damage by being careful where they use the iPod and it will last a long time past the warranty period. Others may try to escape the consequences of their abusive actions by sending their iPod back for a new battery knowing they probably will get one in return that hasnt been abused. Pity the poor sheep that gets the abused iPod only to have problems begin to surface as they use it. The iPod may lock up as it gets confused reading data from a damaged area. It may not even write data correctly when syncing with ITunes.
From this you can see it is not desirable to carefully maintain a piece of electronics only to have it given to someone else since you can not control unit the replacement battery stream. For most hams this is a non issue since we would open it up and perform the battery replacement ourselves. That is what I would do.
The average consumer is better off with user replaceable batteries like the ones used in cell phones and PDAs.
WHY OTHER MP3 PLAYERS USE AA OR AAA BATTERIES
Most of these other MP3 player choices are feature rich compared to an iPod. One feature in particular is a battery killer, the ability to record! This takes a lot of current and recording kills the battery about four times faster than just playing back files. This is especially true if you are using the FM radio feature as the source for your sound file. I record lectures that are broadcast locally in the same room on the FM band for the hearing impaired and these come out perfectly using a tiny flash MP3 player like the iRiver (Korean) or the Vibe (Chinese). If I notice that the old battery is getting low I can slip another AA (iRiver) or AAA (Vibe) battery in between speakers. I use alkaline batteries as they have the most energy density for this application. These are cheap when bought in quantity at the local drug store while they are on sale. They can be bought anywhere on a moments notice so I never miss recording what I need. A discharged built in battery would be useless until recharged.
I also use rechargeable NMHI batteries but they do not last as long as Alkaline. MP3 players have a user setting in the firmware to indicate to the player if you are using a rechargeable battery or a non rechargeable battery as they have different discharge characteristics and the player needs to know how to calculate the remaining charge.
I have tried Titanium Lithium batteries while recording and they are not worth it because of their high cost while only delivering about an hour more time.
The Korean MP3 players, iRiver, Samsung, and Cowan, all get between forty and fifty hours off a AA alkaline battery on normal playback. They get about ten hours off the AA battery if the unit is used for live recording or if the backlight is left on all the time. The iPod doesnt use AA batteries and doesnt record so these battery life issues do not apply to there.
Vic Healey @ Dec 19th 2005 1:22AM
BATTERY IGNORANCE HURTS
I am a ham radio operator and use many types of portable electronics. I have had considerable experience with different types of batteries and battery configurations.
Apples MP3 design with a proprietary battery that is not user replaceable is a major reason not to buy an iPod of any sort. The replacement battery is another revenue stream for Apple but the reason that they chose the non replaceable battery was to ease their design problem of making the unit as slim as possible and not have a complicated to manufacture case. Look at any PDA (like a Toshiba) with a non replaceable battery compared to one (most of the others) with a replaceable battery. Which is slimmer and lighter in weight?
The Toshiba - hands down!
Which MP3 player is the slimmest and lightest? The one with a proprietary non replaceable battery!
That said there are other design factors such as ease of use that clearly make the iPod the choice of many. I am sure that a good number of these would reject the iPod if they knew the truth about Apples policy on battery replacement.
What is so bad about getting a replacement battery installed by Apple? They DO NOT send back the same iPod you may have been carefully handling for years. You get someone elses iPod which may have scratches and definitely doesnt have your music on it. This isnt so bad with a flash player (you have your music backed up on your computer using ITunes dont you) but a major downside to owning a HD based iPod. Hard disks in portable electronics are subject to damage do to G-shock every time you drop it. Driving down a rough road in a any vehicle with a stiff truck like suspension will also damage any iPods hard disk. Taking it to the gym and jogging also introduce shock that will damage it over time. A user who is aware of this can mitigate this type of damage by being careful where they use the iPod and it will last a long time past the warranty period. Others may try to escape the consequences of their abusive actions by sending their iPod back for a new battery knowing they probably will get one in return that hasnt been abused. Pity the poor sheep that gets the abused iPod only to have problems begin to surface as they use it. The iPod may lock up as it gets confused reading data from a damaged area. It may not even write data correctly when syncing with ITunes.
From this you can see it is not desirable to carefully maintain a piece of electronics only to have it given to someone else since you can not control unit the replacement battery stream. For most hams this is a non issue since we would open it up and perform the battery replacement ourselves. That is what I would do.
The average consumer is better off with user replaceable batteries like the ones used in cell phones and PDAs.
WHY OTHER MP3 PLAYERS USE AA OR AAA BATTERIES
Most of these other MP3 player choices are feature rich compared to an iPod. One feature in particular is a battery killer, the ability to record! This takes a lot of current and recording kills the battery about four times faster than just playing back files. This is especially true if you are using the FM radio feature as the source for your sound file. I record lectures that are broadcast locally in the same room on the FM band for the hearing impaired and these come out perfectly using a tiny flash MP3 player like the iRiver (Korean) or the Vibe (Chinese). If I notice that the old battery is getting low I can slip another AA (iRiver) or AAA (Vibe) battery in between speakers. I use alkaline batteries as they have the most energy density for this application. These are cheap when bought in quantity at the local drug store while they are on sale. They can be bought anywhere on a moments notice so I never miss recording what I need. A discharged built in battery would be useless until recharged.
I also use rechargeable NMHI batteries but they do not last as long as Alkaline. MP3 players have a user setting in the firmware to indicate to the player if you are using a rechargeable battery or a non rechargeable battery as they have different discharge characteristics and the player needs to know how to calculate the remaining charge.
I have tried Titanium Lithium batteries while recording and they are not worth it because of their high cost while only delivering about an hour more time.
The Korean MP3 players, iRiver, Samsung, and Cowan, all get between forty and fifty hours off a AA alkaline battery on normal playback. They get about ten hours off the AA battery if the unit is used for live recording or if the backlight is left on all the time. The iPod doesnt use AA batteries and doesnt record so these battery life issues do not apply to there.
Peter @ Dec 19th 2005 1:22AM
Definately, I agree completely on the battery issue. The internal batteries are stupid and really limit the lifetime of a player. I've had a YP-55V for the past 2 years and its going on great. Almost since I got it I've been using AAA Ni-MH rechargables and its worked out for me quite well - gone through about 4 of the batteries over the years, but it costs about $10 CAD to get a new bunch. $5 maintenence average a year is a pretty good deal.
I would never buy an iPod because of its battery, and because I can never see the point to paying that much for the thing. It doesn't have Voice Recording, Line-In Encoding, FM Radio and many other features that other MP3 Players that are much cheaper have and it uses a hard drive and not versitle flash drive technology. Definately the iPod sucks - its just a faze of a misinformated public that wants to look 'cool'
And the iPod shuffle, lol, what a joke. Good job public.
hamzah @ Dec 19th 2005 1:22AM
i juz bought this player last week,but not the red colour. its blue with 512mb capacity. what i like most is it has 9 bands equalizer! :-D yeah its a bit bulky as to accomodate the AA battery. well im not gonna complain as long as da battery last for 42 hours.
justin @ Dec 19th 2005 1:22AM
i used this for half a year but yet it doesnt have any problems. if u hav any questions about this mp3, feel free to send me an email @ wf_justin@hotmail.com, and yes it does hav line in