Leaked Xbox 360 specs and Xbox Live details?
by Peter Rojas 
posted May 9th 2005 at 4:30PM
These could be completely fake, but some semi-plausible specs for the new
Xbox 360, as well as some details about Xbox Live, were
posted and then quickly pulled from the TeamXbox forums. The part about it having a 20GB detachable hard drive seems a
little sketch, since we'd heard something about it being a 40GB drive, but the rest of it seems to make sense. You have
exactly 77 hours to argue over whether or not these are
for real.
[Thanks, Joe]
2 types of Xbox Live:
Xbox Live Silver (no subscription required)
Xbox Live Gold (subscription benefits)
Features for Gold service
* Also for Silver
# Also for Offline
- Seamless transition to Xbox Live account from Xbox to Xbox 360
- Access to MMOs (additional fees may apply) *
- Free Xbox Live weekends *
- Multiplayer online gameplay
- Avatar for gamer profile * #
- Motto for gamer profile * #
- Personalized look for Xbox System Guide * #
- Offline achievments * #
- Online achievements *
- Access to other players Gamer cards via Live *
- Cumulative gamer score * #
- Location/language profile * #
- Reputation *
- Enahnced matchmaking using above
- Skill level matchmaking
- Gameplay style profile (casual, competitive, etc.)
- Recent players list *
- Free and premium download game content *
- Free and premium downloadable movies, music, tv *
- Downloadable demos/trailers *
- Microtransactions *
- Custom playlist in every game * #
- Play music from portable devices * #
- View images from digital camera * #
- Strem media from Windows XP * #
- Interactive screen savers * #
- Track info for CDs * #
- Communication with voice, video or text *
360 HW:
1. Support for DVD-video, DVD-Rom, DVD-R/RW, CD-DA, CD-Rom, CD-R, CD-RW, WMA CD, MP3 cd, JPEG photo CD
2. All games supported at 16:9, 720p and 1080i, anti-aliasing
3. Customizable face plates to change appearance
4. 3 USB 2.0 ports
5. Support for 4 wireless controllers
6. Detachable 20GB drive
7. Wi-Fi ready
Custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU
- 3 symmetrical cores at 3.2 GHz each
- 2 hardware threads per core
- 1 VMX-128 vector unit per core
- 1 MB L2 cache
CPU Game Math Performance
- 9 billion dots per second
Custom ATI Graphics Processor
- 500 MNz
- 10 MB embedded DRAM
- 48-way parallel floating-point shader pipelines
- unified shader architecture
Memory
-512 MB GDDR3 RAM
- 700 MNz DDR
Memory Bandwidth
- 22.4 GB/s memory interface bus bandwidth
- 256 GB/s memory bandwidth to EDRAM
- 21.6 GB/s frontside bus
Audio
- Mulitchannel surround sond output
- Supports 48khz 16-bit audio
- 320 independent decompression channels
- 32 bit processing
- 256+ audio channels
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 5)
Mark @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
Wow! if those are the real specs, i'm DEFINATELY getting one... FREE xbox live on the weekends!!!??? HECK YEAH!
nemi @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
Well, after buying a HDTV I have to get one if it does indeed do:
"2. All games supported at 16:9, 720p and 1080i, anti-aliasing"
So what time / date is the MTV launch? I want to set my DVR to record it.... ?
sequoia @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
just a question, sorry for being such a noob... but the wireless controllers... does anyone know what frequency they are going to be on? every 2.4 Ghz controller i've used messes with my wireless network. my xbox, all my computers, etc are all on a WiFi network, and when i've used controllers like the logitech controller, the wifi connections get all buggy and slow. any info?
Jim Bob @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
It's nice to see that M$ isn't kicking themselves in the nuts by committing to a new disc format. Hopefully that'll keep the cost down.
20GB? Sound's like it's a
Jim Bob @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
It's nice to see that M$ isn't kicking themselves in the nuts by committing to a new disc format. Hopefully that'll keep the cost down.
20GB? Sound's like it's a
Kendall @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
Wow I would be really suprised if they give it away on weekends. Funny that they would loosen up xbox live for their new console when they have already established the pricing for xbox live on old xbox...
Bill @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
Custom ATI Graphics Processor
- 500 MNz
?
Is that 500 MHz or what?
Devon @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
Provided it does support USB 2.0, do you think that eliminates the need to buy the hard drive if I already have and Iriver H120 mp3 player (20 gigs)?
charlie @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
sounds totally made up to me. Firstly they dont mention anything about the PPU which I thought was confirmed for Xbox360, and also one of the confirmed spyshots clearly has a 40GB detachable HDD.
crsh @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
I still don't buy the three symetrical core at 3.2 GHz thing, it just doesn't make any sense
Mike @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
When it says "free xb live weekends" they mean that there might be special weekends where it is free. It's not like MS is going to hand out live for everyone every weekend.
Xbox360-forums.com @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
Sounds awesome! Unfortunatly I'll be at uni when the system is realised so not much cash but I've gotta save up for one of these bad boys. Looks like the system is going be more digital image based, storage digi images on it?
Andy Miller @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
wow...speecless if those are the real specs...
Staff @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
qustions:
i still want to know if i can play my old games (halo/halo2) to be more specific
Glen Young @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
Sounds about right to me, but no dvr? bugger
Chris Butler @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
Microsoft will have xbox-live just like a cell phone, with certain amount of minutes you can play the more you pay, the more play hours you get. And on weekends you get unlimited amount of gameplay for free ;)
niexun @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
M$ is doing almost everything the right way
this time, custom skins is just briliant and if they go with the free xbox live thing on weekends or maybe one weedend a month it will still be so good and a very smart way to wheel in more gamers to its gold service, just briliant so far.
Chris Butler @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
Microsoft will have xbox-live just like a cell phone, with certain amount of minutes you can play the more you pay, the more play hours you get. And on weekends you get unlimited amount of gameplay for free ;)
KevinBackstabber @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
I repeat, the following is a major revealation. The design above isn't the true Xbox360.
ITS A FAKE! M$ is a GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Today ourcolony.net has released a new design of a console pic which is 10X better than that shit above there. WOW! Coz the new look is AWESOME! Better than that vertical shit if you ask an Xbox fanboy like me. Some genius cracked this image. Love him for that.
Check it out here.
http://xs28.xs.to/pics/05191/ourcolony-leaked_image.jpg
sistimatic @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
Yeah, I'm not so sure about the 3x 3.2ghz processors. Sounds like overkill to me. A ten-fold increase from the first generation console? Anyone else?
Smoney @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
yeesh, how come consoles always seem to be crippled by memory. if these specs are real, the processors have plenty of power, but limited ram. remember what this did to the ps2? though it could be to stop peopel from turning them into pc's.
Ian @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
Hmmm...toilets? Different Skins....Definitely.
Ed @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
Hug-me,
with xbox live you won't feel so lonely and with wireless controllers you will still feel like a traveller.
i bet it has no dvr so people will buy windows mce computers
niexun @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
yes PS3 will be better then xbox 360, but one thing is for sure, you all PS3 only fans will want to get xbox360 when it comes or later cuz in the end its about having fun and not about where or with what machine you have it on.
the console battle will in the end be a close fight like nvidia against ATi,and this generation it will be alot tighter fight.
Lauren Miller @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
Wow, those specs are pretty powerful and their online options are definiately impressive. I haven't seen specific specs on the PS3 and I'm not too excited about the Nintendo Revolution, but the PS3 has to do something amazing and quick because both systems only get a few exclusive games. Congratulations to Microsoft for getting in and staying in the game.
Theosbournefreak @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
I'm sure you got the leaked image from TeamXbox forums you dumb f*ck kevinbackstabber. Here is another angle of the same pic.
http://xs28.xs.to/pics/05191/ourcolony-leaked_image2.jpg
Jeff @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
Fake.
There's no 1080i requirement in the developer briefs. 720p is the minimum requirement.
If one spec's fake, all of them are suspect. No doubt many of these will turn out to be true, but only because they're basically common sense (for example, it's no stretch to say the next XBL will have matchmaking capabilities).
I'm sure the system will be unveiled in 3 days and 75% of this stuff will turn out to be true or sort-of true, and everyone will say "they were right!" But no, these are not real specs, these are just culled from various previous rumors combined with other features that can be safely assumed.
MxxCon @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
CPU Game Math Performance
- 9 billion dots per second
wtf is dots per second?
Tom @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
what no HD-DVD or Blue Ray... Jedi Please... I thought Bill Gates said this was the year for HD....
Brandon @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
/ thats how many dots per second the system can pump out. I remember the industry used to use polygons as the benchmark, so i think these specs r suspect.
Pip @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
"There's no 1080i requirement in the developer briefs. 720p is the minimum requirement."
I'm going to guess the machine upconverts 720p to 1080i. Many early HDTV adopters have no 720p on their sets and it would just blank out their TVs. Much like a HD cable box, you set your resolution to 720p or 1080i and whatever the format the TV show is in, is either displayed or upconverted.
Rohith Thumati @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
"Custom ATI Graphics Processor
- 500 MNz
- 10 MB embedded DRAM"
That 10 MB can't be right, can it?
Hybrid @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
Wow PPC? PPC? M$? No way Windows on Mac sucked . M$ does not have a good histrory with ppc
justin @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
my cpu is a nueronet processor, a learning computer.
the_wake @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
3 Ibm PPC processors at 3.2? Impossible. It would have to be the size of a Powermac! I mean if 2 PPC @ 2.7ghz needs water cooling what the hell would 3PPCs at 3.2 need? liquid nitrogen?
j @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
#28 its dot products its cpu...gpus is polys
swarmster @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
"That 10 MB can't be right, can it?"
Both ATI and nVidia have been rolling out low-end cards with tiny amounts of RAM, to take advantage of today's fast RAM and interconnects (PCI Express). I'd think in an integrated environment, with DDR3, no less, you wouldn't _need_ much on board RAM, though it does still sound cheap.
Speaking of cheap, "Wi-Fi ready"?! I guess they need to have some kind of add-ons to sell, now that it sounds like the thing will play DVDs straight out of the box.
j @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
#31 at 90nm its possible ...remember custom 970
3cores...and MS promises at least 20million chips from ibm
j @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
actually maybe at 65nm...doubt it though
Theosbournefreak @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
Here is another ourcolony leaked image. For those in the dark, the original is a fake console. Here is the real deal as cracked by Xbox fanboys today!
LADIES & GENTLEMEN THE REAL XBOX 360 AS REVEALED AT MTV EVENT. NOT THE LIVE LEAKED EARLIER, THIS IS REAL!
http://xs28.xs.to/pics/05192/ourcolony-leaked_image3.jpg
Hube @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
the_wake - Keep in mind 3 cores don't have to mean 3 unique procs. Rather like it says 3 cores. One proc can have multiple cores.
Matthew Goeden @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
Yeah right!?!? Get-out-a-town with those crazy ass specs!!!
If the Xbox 360 has 3 3.2ghz cores, Steve Jobs might drive a tank through IBM's headquarters. (yes, it will be a uber cool "ipod white" tank with U2 blaring from the stereo -- and yes, Steve will be wearing a bullet proof black sweater)
Dean @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
My God...I need it now.
P.S whats and MMO?
Eric Pobirs @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
THe PPC cores used in this (and in the Sony Cell) are very different animals from what is in a typical modern desktop processor. You wouldn't want to design a PC around these but for a dedicated application like a gaming platform the requirements of an in-order design are worth in exchange for very high performance at a very low cost. If you've been wondering about developers complaining about massively increased effort required for programming the next generation, this is one of the reasons. Multi-threaded design is also very foreign to game developers but that is at least well documented and just a matter of a learning curve. In-order processors means that lots of hands on code optimizing will be required. Modern developers aren't accustomed to that but such is the price of making this stuff happen for a mass market price.
Kane @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
im the shmuck whose just getting xbox live this week, but this is a funny thing which may end up screwing ms. now im not a copyright lawyer but this toothbrush name may give ms a hard time w/ naming the new xbox if the name will be the xbox 360. http://www.colgate.com/app/Colgate360/US/Offers/OnlineMedia.cvsp?cid=msn360medrec2005
crsh @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
#42
yeah, and everybody's a frickin' expert about everything nowadays from reading cpu specs and extrapolating business data (whatever the hell that means), your guess is as good as any
Gamer @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
All you guys knocking the xbox 360 are probably the same ones that are kicking yourselves for not buying the original xbox. You hated for so long, and now you can't go back on your opinion and admit that you like. I bet almost all of the people who took the time to say they hate the 360, are gonna be the first in line to get one when it comes out. Own up to your real opinions. It is going to be a damn powerful sexy looking machine.
Eric Pobirs @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
It's just a modifier to an existing trademark in both cases, so both Microsoft and Colgate are fine with it. You can call your product a Mustang. Just don't try to call it a Ford Mustang.
Mu Doggy @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
Hey, just to point out, the processors are 3.2GHz 3 cores. So that means it is probably on one chip. Apple won't get mad because they will be doing dual core chips soon enough, this just is a tri-core chip is all.
Rick @ Dec 19th 2005 12:14AM
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