PSP homebrews on firmware 1.50?
posted Jun 12th 2005 5:03PM
So if you've note been following the whole homebrew and pirated game drama going on with the PSP, we last left off
with Sony making everyone upgrade to
firmware 1.50, 1.51, and 1.52 in order to prevent from bootstrapping games off the MemoryStick slot. Supposedly
Sony had the problem licked, but it looks like once again we shouldn't underestimate the mad scientist powers of
legions of hardware hackers the world over—a group called PsP-Dev have apparently confirmed successful a homebrew
bootstrap on 1.50 (no word on 1.51 or 1.52). What's that mean for the indie developer/emulation/warez communities?
Well, pretty much the same as before—use your hardware the way you want it. For SNES emulation, that is.
Obviously.
[Thanks to Ian and Kipp]
Update: We got the word on compatibility with firmware versions 1.51 and 1.52 and that word is, unfortunately, no. Also, the release date on this is Wednesday, June 15. [Thanks, Ian]
If you ask me... its obviouse why sony doesnt want the Homebrewd software on their PSP's, their not making a proffit... they sell the system witch costs them about 275 for 250, yet they expect to get the money in return by, not the games, but their Liscenced UMD's the games are ported on. (companies like Activision, and Square(uni or wuteva they called now)soft give bigg money to use their patented UMD design.) meaning that they will not get many investments if the companies that invest in their system see that their is a large population percentage using their own software on the PSP's, without use of their tardemarked games. As for the thought of them selling a Homebrew CD... thats just retarded... they are going to loose on deals with their affeliates if people start buying PSP's for their own software, simply beacause less people will be interrested in paying for commercial games. to make this simpler (for those who are slow enough to go backwards.) If you owned a company that mass produced games, you walk into te confrence room to find out that people are using their own software on the system you are investing in... huh? you process that for a bit and think... they can make their own software... sooner or later (with the growing population of the system, and developers) graphics eccelaration will be possible, and along with that... their goes the need for my software... (back to the real world now) would you be happy knowing that the system you are making games for, already support GPL'd (sorta speak) software, and a large amount of people are buying the system to use their own (free) software? (I figure you wont like this unless you are a complete idiot, in witch case, Right on!) In exchange sony will loose money through investers, investors wont like it, and PSP, is GONE... I love homebrew applications ,(till my freind updated my psp) But the only way to get it plublicized is for it to be hacked and the exploit to be on an unknown site (so sony wont find it) maybe an FTP with a password and sum encryption (send the decryptor through E-mail?) because as soon as the exploit goes public, sony has its own set of talking monkeys sitting on tables debuggin and cracking "OUR" exploits. If you have eny information that can help "US" accomplish tis E-Mail me at Labour.Nunez@comcast.net, I am not tryen to hack the "system" simply tryen to help both the "industry" and the DEV-Community.
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If you ask me... its obviouse why sony doesnt want the
Homebrewd software on their PSP's, their not making a proffit... they sell the
system witch costs them about 275 for 250, yet they expect to get the money in
return by, not the games, but their Liscenced UMD's the games are ported on.
(companies like Activision, and Square(uni or wuteva they called now)soft give
bigg money to use their patented UMD design.) meaning that they will not get
many investments if the companies that invest in their system see that their is
a large population percentage using their own software on the PSP's, without use
of their tardemarked games. As for the thought of them selling a Homebrew CD...
thats just retarded... they are going to loose on deals with their affeliates if
people start buying PSP's for their own software, simply beacause less people
will be interrested in paying for commercial games. to make this simpler (for
those who are slow enough to go backwards.) If you owned a company that mass
produced games, you walk into te confrence room to find out that people are
using their own software on the system you are investing in... huh? you process
that for a bit and think... they can make their own software... sooner or later
(with the growing population of the system, and developers) graphics
eccelaration will be possible, and along with that... their goes the need for my
software... (back to the real world now) would you be happy knowing that the
system you are making games for, already support GPL'd (sorta speak) software,
and a large amount of people are buying the system to use their own (free)
software? (I figure you wont like this unless you are a complete idiot, in witch
case, Right on!) In exchange sony will loose money through investers, investors
wont like it, and PSP, is GONE... I love homebrew applications ,(till my freind
updated my psp) But the only way to get it plublicized is for it to be hacked
and the exploit to be on an unknown site (so sony wont find it) maybe an FTP
with a password and sum encryption (send the decryptor through E-mail?) because
as soon as the exploit goes public, sony has its own set of talking monkeys
sitting on tables debuggin and cracking "OUR" exploits. If you have eny
information that can help "US" accomplish tis E-Mail me at Labour.Nunez@comcast.netI am not
tryen to hack the "system" simply tryen to help both the "industry" and the
DEV-Community.
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PLEASE PEOPLE WHO KNOW HACKING TRY TO HACK THE NEWEST VERSIONS OF THE FIRMWARE (I.E. 1.52)
THANKS
I have upgraded my firmware to 1.52 and can get any homebrews to work now. Does anyone know how to revert back to 1.50?
HOW CAN I GET HOMEBREWS ON 1.51???? PLEASE... SOME1 PLEASE TELL ME HOW!!!!!!! THANKS
How do I downgrade version 1.51 back to 1.5? Do I have to buy a new PSP?
buddy once u go up thres no going down..... BUT if u got the warranty u could wait for ur psp to break and get another 1.50 (NOTE:dont get dub edition metal gear or coded arms they scan ur system software and if its not updated the game wont start.)
Well.. hope they crack 2.0 soon. this stinks. you would think sony would let you use it for WHATEVER.. to sell em .. maybe its not where their money is.. or maybe its due to ripped UMDs?
oh well.. stick to my other emulators for now.
Even if it breaks, i still don't think that the ...erm...replacement psp u get will be on 1.50.....
shit....now i'm wishing i had found out more regarding the psp.....now i'm praying like shit that i'll see homebrews for 1.51 that'll allow me to play Snes games...
pfft, costs them 275? that might be true if they are only rpoducing one, but because they are making so many so often it costs them nothing. and of course they want money!
also you can put full games on psp's if you have the loader, thats probably why they are region locking them, a copyright issue more than a game issue (sony doesnt get any money out of games made by other companies for the psp)
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Thanks
Excellent!
I might be picking up a PSP tomorrow night, and this news don't hoit one bit.
Dudes, the actual information will only be released on June 15th. For right now, there is only a video that might or might not have been faked. There's a LOT of debate whether it is fake or not.
So WAIT TILL THE 15TH!!
All nuts! Everyone! I hope it will work, even though i am always suspect of phrases like: "we will release it on XX/XX/05"
And the video is hilarious.. Firestarter by the prodigy, this bloke has no style, it's so cheap.. Showing his work with a loud old Prodigy tune and all those namedroppings on screen, pfff. I can't stand kids who always include their "hacker" names in files - awful. I will be more than happy if i can play the old gear on my psp, but i will be more happy to don't know a sh** about the ones behind. Don't care at all.
All the debate on weather it's real or not is going on at this link
http://www.psphacks.net/forums/viewforum.php?f=3
The video is available here:
http://www.xente.mundo-r.com/cybblade/psp-dev/psp-dev-1.5.avi
And quoted from the first post of this ps2nfo.com thread:
"Update: According to PaWsTick (another member of the PsP-Dev group) in this post, it has been confirmed that this exploit does not work with firmware version 1.52. Version 1.51 is yet to be confirmed as working or not working, so stay tuned!"
There ya go.
Time to do the Dance of Joy!
Lala-Yada-Yada-Hey-Hey-Yada-Yada-Woopie!
Sony's already committed to bundling mandatory firmware updates with future games. _If_ something has in fact been cracked now, Sony can easily lock it down with the next batch of games. Pretty soon the hackers will iron out all the weaknesses for them.
www.free-ipod-guide.info is a scam, it involves a pyramid scheme just like the rest of the "get a free X" websites. It may look good but you inevitably loose out. Ignore it.
Anyway back on topic. I doubt this is real, I'm sure Sony would have done a good enough job of fixing this major hole in the first update. All i can say is we'll see...
Hey swarmster,
Keep in mind, this time around.... hackers are looking to do a LILO type thing. At startup, choose what version firmware to emulate before *ANY* other code executes. So, eventually there will be a menu you'll see everytime you start the PSP saying "1.0,1.50,1.51,1.52,etc". Sony can't do anything about that if done correctly. Mimic the kernel memory exactly, and that'll be the end of any Sony protection.. because they can't defend against this without making *major* changes(i.e. hardware) - and those kind of changes will probably cause some compatibility issue somewhere.
Remember back in the day Sony made a special Playstation game called Polporous or something that was the first anti-mod chip game. But, the game didn't work on 1st-generation PSXs and Sony had to recall the game.
So yeah, Mutli-boot OS for PSP is the future. You'll have like n-number of EBOOT.PBPs on your memstick at all times to switch firmware versions.
full-speed SNES/NES/Gensis emulation will get me to buy a PSP, that's for sure. Otherwise, no thanks. My PS2 games look better on the TV, anyway, and my friends can come over and enjoy the fun as well.
But a portable library of retro classics on PSP's screen? Bring it on!
Sweeeeet. I don't know why Sony cares because now I will buy a PSP when before I wouldn't.
A whole lot of people drooling over the MAME port are going to be happy as hell to learn they won't be needing a 1.0 PSP soon...
http://www.boingboing.net/2005/06/12/mame_game_emulator_r.html
-Vance, I totally agree with that also. I am one who wants a PSP like no-other but am just reluctent right now but if I can easily be able to play old NES/SNES/Genesis or others I would grab on in a heart beat. Pay full price. Buy full priced games for the PSP but if I was able to get old games, *cheap* lets do it!
hdtv because they lose money on you when you just buy the console.. they lose money on the actual hardware remember.. lol
I would question it though, notice that after 'PSP' shows up then the screen fades, it fades black, the item in question is, after the fade and with the white box popping up. Isn't the unit suppose to have backlight? and because of the backlight, the contrast levels in total darkness isn't too great, black should show up lighted, it should be somewhat grey. But everything around the white box is totally black.
Most cameras have Auto-Iris, if it doesn't usually the software does. When the screen faded to black, it should adjust to let in more light, so it shoulda picked up the "backlighted" black and not totally blank out to black no?!
"There are always those who are skeptical, that's what keeps the world spinning."
i cant go to the read link... im not registered... i tried to and they said my e-mail was banned... im lost
Why can't sony wake up and smell the coffee! Letting us PSP users play retro games is nothing but beneficial - self-promoting their platform, bout time console developers woke up and gave us what we want.
Glad I stuck with my V1.00 PSP, no updates here!
It's not a fake. People know Cybblade and Pawstick (from ElOtroLado.net) and they don't lie.
So, if firmware is flashable, why can't people install 1.0 firmware to their 1.5 PSP's?
d*mn, i just updated to most recent from 1.50 because I figured that they wouldnt be able to crack the encryption, with out testing every freaking possibility, and i figured that no one would want to wast that much time. f*ck... like the Junkmail said "is firmware flashable?", if so, can someone email me the 1.5 firmware at benhc911@hotmail.com
... or 1.0 for that matter
19&21 Junkmail - If you search around the internet a little bit, you will find that the update files exists for all versions of the PSP firmware except for 1.0. Why? Because it was the original version of course. *Could* they have released a version 1.0 "update." Of course again. But why would you *ever* want to downgrade your firmware anyway ;)
screw that, all i want to know is when can i play psp games on my pc...
i have a 1000k PSP but i have updated it to 1.51. is there a way to go back to 1.0 or 1.5?
Why doesn't Sony just allow for say a "Homebrew" disc to be created. That way, a user can buy the UMD, create their homebrew apps and run away with it. Take Tivo for instance. They don't really officially support the hacking world on their equipment, but they sure do support the community in their own little way. It only makes sense to me that Sony allow this to happen. If they did, in some format, they would dominate the market.
Just my .02
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Some sony reps said that they're looking at a dev kit for education/hobby use, to come out after the main release waves are all done. I'm hoping. Many are hoping. It could lead to some very cool uses.
Hey does anyone know how to disable the updates completely?
sh*t i upgraded to v1.51
look out,v1.52 is now available in america