No, not an MP4 iPod, it's an Ipod MP4
posted Jun 22nd 2005 7:33AM
You kind of almost have to admire these guys when they don't even bother to have the scruples to come up with a
knockoff name for their knockoff products.
But to their credit, Shenzhen Orderly Science & Technology claims their Ipod MP4 does do a lot more than the real
deal, such as read CF, SD, MMC, MemoryStick, SmartMedia, and XD, play DivX, MPEG-4, and motion JPEG, and support MP3,
WMA, and AAC—then they really lose cred claiming it's got a 2-inch 558 x 234 pixel display, 20GB hard drive, and is
still an inch thick and not much wider and longer than the iPod. And seriously though, once you've gone this far
tempting Apple with such low hanging lawsuit fruit, why not go all the way and just really knock off the iPod's style,
too?
[Via DAPreview]
This isn't as bad as the HP "iPod" -- talk about a ripoff. The name, style, even the same box. What on earth was HP thinking?
Fishes,
narco.
HP's iPod was licensed from Apple. It is the real deal, just with an HP logo etched on the back...
Next time read up on your sources, you get -2 karma points for ignorance.
Move along, nothing to see here...
Im pretty sure narco was joking.
you get -2 karma points for not sensing sarcasm.
welcome to the internet, docca.
He even wrote the word fishes on it. Hook, line, sinker.
I don't think that any of these 'iPod clones with more features' can touch the iPod. The iPod has got the features needed for getting the job done right and the marketing/branding behind it. Also you just couldn't take the shame of walking up to your mates with a new music player that is not an iPod, especially one that is obviously a copy.
hmm, last ditch efforts of a company going under?? They are even offering to sell their website.
hey docca, i think narco was being sarcastic. boy do you look stupid.
Why are there so many competitor products out there but they on;y see daylight on Engadget and similar tech sites?
fish twat is the same person as narco?
doesnt seem sarcastic to me.. totally "serious"
Figures, it's made by a chinese company. Those people never come up with anything original, everything in that country seems to be either a knockoff, or a complete rip of foreign products.
#9 Mark, maybe the Chinese are on an invention break ever since they invented the compass, spaghetti, the fan, kites, the rudder, paper, printing, books, gunpowder, the canon, cast iron, paper money, the decimal system, the accordian, alcohol, movable type, the binary system, porcelain, crossbows...
MARK GOT SERVER
#10. mark is in a way correct. The chinese often ignore copyrights and patents. It has to do with the communism crap going on there. I can't imagine this thing will ever be released in western markets as apple would sue their butts off without a doubt.
I'm not Narco. But anybody who took narco's post serious is either American (ie - irony glands removed at birth) or erm, stupid.
I use a "SamPod" (Samsung YH-425). When people ask me if it's an "iPod clone" I say, "no, it's a Zen clone."
Maybe we should start calling the iPod the "Walkman killer" or something.
Well, if this thing actually does all it says...maybe I would buy an iPod...just not one from apple...but i doubt it does any of that stuff well.
I realize that this is a Chinese company and not a major competitor, but it seems really strange to me that so many people are suing apple for copying them (itunes.. tiger..), but apple never seems to have any intentions of suing the many many people who have ripped off their ideas.. I guess they realize they have no chance due to America's love for the underdog.
Chinese perception of copyright and patent has nothing to do with "communism crap". That communism crapped actually stalled out China's true mercantile calling for a good part of the the 20th century, but they're back in business.
Essentially, no protections ever really existed for authors, artists, and inventors. If something was good, it was duplicated. Books that were widely read were duplicated, sometimes modified (and I'm not just talking about Harry Potter, the Chinese classics have had their share of "revisions"). Art that was excellent was "enhanced" by an owner's thoughts on the art (those long scrolls you see in museums, the artist typically left a lot of blank paper in the end where consecutive owners could place their thoughts, deep or not, on the scroll). Plus I don't think they really cared much about all the technological transfer of their inventions to the west -- even when it came back to bite them in the behind.
The world never ceases to amaze me; it's a beautiful thing.
Fishes,
narco.
Is this one of the only media players with memory slots ?
Why can't someone make a tiny player with an SD or CF slot.
That would be genius.
First of all the binary system was invented by an Indian mathematician named Pingala, Iran and Egypt both had their own primitive decimal systems, the first accordian was invented in Germany, the first rudder was made in ancient Egypt, and paper was first made in ancient Greece and Rome.
Second of all, unlike the iPod which has patents and copyrights, the inventions you mentioned are all public domain.
that mesage was for #10 by the way, and somehow I get the feeling that #11 is the same person...
Anyways, copyrights and patents aside, I guess I have to admit that device does look pretty cool.
Crap, I was so exited when I first saw that pic, I thought apple was about to launch a new product. Too bad its from some company I've never heard of. I'd probably still check it out if I get the chance, it looks interesting.
Speaking of iPod knockoffs, a friend of mine bought one for a really low price while he was in China; it broke two weeks after some mild usage. He sent it to get repaired and it turns out, that iPod was a counterfeit :o It certainly looked real to me...
#19: #10 did get carried away with some of those bit, but no one argues that the four technological foundations of the dominance of the west are: the compass, paper, gunpowder, and printing.
Yes. Paper. Modern paper as we know it was invented in China. Yes, the word paper derives via Rome from Egypt for papyrus, but papyrus is a completely different material from modern paper, or would you like to consider tree bark paper as well?
#22 I guess I would have to agree with you on that, but those inventions are still public domain; you can't get sued by making paper, or a normal compass.
btw, I did a quick check on the patents that the iPod holds, and judging by that picture and description, there's probably at least three infringements.
Mark, unless you're a lawyer employeed by Apple, why do you care?
#23: I was really just explaining a tangent concerning China's inventions. The point I initially made that directly relates to this device is in #16. That point being: China's ideas of copyright and patent have never been in line with Western ideas of copyright and patent, and it has nothing to do with communism and everything to do with Chinese culture dating back at least 2500 years.
#19. Oy, history. The "cheng" musical instrument was introduced to Germany in 1777, it's the first known instrument to use the free vibrating reed principle, which is the basis of the accordion's sound production. The I Ching is based on the binary system which is dated to 8th century BC, while Pingala lived in the 5th century -- though Pingala did use it for specifically for math. The Egyptians had tillers early on, but evidence of the stern-mounted rudder is dated to China from the 1st century AD, predating the West by 1k years.
And no, I'm not Alex, the subsequent poster to my post.
#9 and #12.... the fact that the chinese produce a lot of the "foreign products" of which you speak (ie American licensed products) is what leads to all the rip offs. They have everything readily available.
The device looks interesting, it's unfortunate they decided to latch onto a popular brand name. It could be the case of a company stupid enough to think iPod is a generic name, or that tacking on "MP4" on the end of a name is sufficient differentiation.
I personally would prefer a flash-only device with removable media if it will cut down on the weight and size sufficiently. I think all/most of the current players leave card slots out to help promote the sale of more players.
NERD FITE!!!
fight, big boy
You all fools. You guys don't know anything. The next generation of portable music players will no longer be limited to mp3 format. The "Ipod" which you have been writing about is really named "Tpod", go ahead and google it. Also, mp4 format is the next thing. Playing videos not just music is what everyone wants and is buying in Asia. Its just that you dumb American don't realize it because inventing anything that could be seens as technology is not your thing. Stick to your tracker pulls and leave the inventing to us.