More Treo 670 pics

Mr. roc a fella hooked us up again, this time with a couple more pics of that new Windows Mobile-powered Treo 670.

[Tom @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

Is it possible that maybe he used a Windows Powered phone elsewhere, took a screenshot (if thats possible, i dont know - ive never used one of these things) and transferred it to his Treo 670... somehow. And then, even less likely maybe he set it as a wallpaper or just displayed the images fully in his phone?

[JaySee @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

The question is - is it the OS or the Hardware that makes my treo reset every five minutes? I'm guessing the software, in which case:

BRING... IT ... ON!

john

[tmc @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

dude, that says Verizon!

[avial @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

why not ask for a screenshot of the system info? i guess if they can photoshop these pics with the correct lighting, they can also photoshop a pic of the sys info too.

[Brian S. @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

#3, duh it says verizon. verizon carries the other Treos too.

Also, what's so special about the GPS stuff in the first shot? My crappy little 40 dollar phone does that.

[Surur @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

Give it up please. There is no WM 5.0 devices out with a square screen to take a screen capture from. This is the real deal.

[The Truth @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

#1 - Tom

Clearly you have not seen the video. Do a search here on engadget for it.

How convenient that just a week after the Motorola Franklin debuts we get these "spy-pics" of the Treo 670.

[JP @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

Duuude.. this is real, check the windows mobile button.. duhh..

And this overshadows the fact that there is also a new Palm Os Treo version. So all you Palm Doom Prayers back off.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=695201&page=1&pp=15

[Stephen @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

Has anyone ever though it maybe just a Plastic Treo Shell around a windows smartphone??

[010111 @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

the hw6500 has a square screen.

for time #76,983 : hey palm! the treo hardware is what blows.

if i wanted a WM convergence phone there are numerous better solutions than a treo... now if i wanted a palm os convergence phone... the treo was king... but the hardware was always like 18 months (at least) behind. let me guess... still no wifi. genius.

[splob @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

Does the screen resolution seem like 320x320, like the other Treos? Or do you think it's 240x240?

[Gistro Man @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

Apple is next!

Wow the company that created Palm OS is now bending knees to Microsoft.

Definitely Apple is next. First they changed to x86 Intel just like windows, now they created a Windows compatible two button mouse. NExt they will dump mac and start using Windows Vista!

[FearofRetrobution @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

NOT TO MENTION---

there is a windows key. Look. Right above the keyboard on the left side.

[aj @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

thank you sur, all day yesterday i was telling ppl its real with the first crappy photo, then with all the videos, everyone was like oh no its not real. And again ppl will say its fake, why dont they just go hide in a closet

[aj @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

yea dummies there is a windows key on their, then you will just argue that he made, well just shut it and try to find your beeloved treo 650, before they will be no more palm powered handhelds.

[OLivier @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

Gotta love that black marker on top to mask the prototype ID.

Unfortunately, it reads HD677. Somebody's up for some spanking.

As much as I love PALM, it the Treo now runs WM, we might as well go with the iPaq hw6515. Smaller, faster, no antenna, built-in GPS and Mini-SD AND SD.

Nuff' said

[Dave Zatz @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

Sweet pics... instead of using a Sharpie though, maybe the dude should get Photoshop. ;) So my question is, when can I buy it???

[Nic Seow @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

I believe this one. Anyway, seems the pics were taken yesterday - this guy is really fast bringing these to us.

Image input equipment: NIKON
Image input equipment model: E5200
File change date and time: 2005:08:05 16:57:38
Image Description
Software: E5200 V1.2

[janricr @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

I believe this is a true treo windows mobile 5.0 running. But I think this was made during the PalmOne period (before Colligan). Its not logical for Palm to get the PALM brand name back from Palmsource and then release a windows mobile treo a few months after the acquisition. They would've wasted $30M for that "brand". As stated by Mr. Paul Blinkhorn in asia.cnet.com, and I quote (when asked about a WM treo) "Today, we believe that the best OS (operating system) for customers is the Palm OS. Why? If you compare us with any other OS, there is no comparison--this is the most intuitive and easy-to-use OS available, and we think this is the right product for us now." If ever Palm will release any windows mobile phones, it may do so in the future. But not today.

[jon @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

It's definately real

[msafi @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

i told roc a fella to post a side by side pic with the treo 650. he said he can't get a hold of a treo 650? can you believe it?

engadget, please send the poor guy a treo 650 model or something!!

just kidding :P

[Juice @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

DIE SQUARE SCREEN DIE!
DIE SQUARE SCREEN DIE!
DIE SQUARE SCREEN DIE!
DIE SQUARE SCREEN DIE!
DIE SQUARE SCREEN DIE!
DIE SQUARE SCREEN DIE!
DIE SQUARE SCREEN DIE!
DIE SQUARE SCREEN DIE!

[Rich @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

The BIG problem here is that Palm must think that a Windows Mobile environment is a desirable one. Trying to configure network connections, setting up a cellular modem, even trying to configure remote syncing, or installing other software is like, well, it's like trying to do all that on a Windows PC! Windows Mobile on a Palm device? YUK!

[TZK @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

I think if you WATCH The videos in previous engadgets posts - you will see the truth.

[Gistro Man @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

Apple is next!

Wow the company that created Palm OS is now bending knees to Microsoft.

Definitely Apple is next. First they changed to x86 Intel just like windows, now they created a Windows compatible two button mouse. NExt they will dump mac and start using Windows Vista!

If it did not had that sqr screen it would be a very large device or it would not had that cool keyboard

[Surur @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

This phone has one major thing over the HP 6500 - WM 5.0!

It delivers on the POS Treo advantages (one handed usage, non-volatile OS), while adding other features such as "push" activesync, and a pile of API changes. If I had to choose between a wm2003se HP phone, and a WM5 palm phone, Palm, here I come.

Surur

[Hans @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

question is, why the ugly battery cover?

[whizack @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

i've been saying this for months, nobody believes me.

#2: the OS resets itself when you sync data to the phone that is corrupted or does not match the phone model in your backup folder.

try hard resetting your device, renaming the backup folder in your palmone// directory and resyncing the device.

that usually fixes that problem 99% of the time, the other 1% have a bad phone.

[Devin Lussier @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

My theory as to why the HD677 id wasn't covered up in the first place and remains still visible: this is a publicity stunt from Palm or Verizon to get people hyped about this. If it is, it certainly worked!

[nathan @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

No matter what Treo does, it can never compete with a BlackBerry.
Nuff' said

[Gorkon @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

I don't know what makes me more excited....that the WM Treo 670 is real or the fact that Verizon will likely get it! :D

[tonicboy @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

Given the bigger type sample from the "The phone has not been activated." image, it's clear that the resolution of the phone is 240 pixels across and, presumably, 240 pixels high. That sucks. I'll stick to my nice, high-res 320x320 650, thanks.

[iNOMAD @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

I was scepticle for a minute too, thinking "what if this is a screen shot." But then i looked at the hardware buttons, if he faked those, then he is DAMN good. The hardware buttons seal the deal for me, this puppy is for real!

[Joshua @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

I wish it ran Linux

[Steamboat Springs, CO @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

I hope this is what the Verizon Girl was reffering to when I returned my 650 this week and she suggested waiting a couple weeks for some announcements. I was asking her advice about trying anouther one or waitng for something better. I sure hope so but I'm a bit skeptical they would 1) roll in such a major change and only make a small incremental change to the model number 2) Even more surprising if Version had it out of the chute. I hope they prove me wrong.

I alos hope it has a better radio in it, the reception just wasn't cutting it here in steamboat Springs even thought our service is generally excellent.

[Justin @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

Dear Verizon,

Thank you for, yet again, plastering your vomit-inducing, poorly designed, insulting-to-real-designers branding/logo all over your new Treo. I believe that heavy heavy discounts on your equipment is in order since your customers are basically walking billboards, especially with a logo on the REAR of all the phones as well. I thought this was a practice limited to your cellular phone business, but when an installer slapped 3 (three) big Verizon stickers on the small *power adapter* for my T1 line's router, I believe graphic designers all over the world felt the anguish.

What does Verizon even mean? Sounds like a disease - "Hey man, ya know my Verizon is acting up again, but I just slapped some ointment on that shiz and it died down."

Indeed, perhaps some ointment on your "shiz" is exactly what is in order, maybe it would cover up the logo. Funny thing is, I'd probably be a Verizon customer instead of a Sprint customer, but as a graphic designer, my soul could not take owning a product with the worst branding ever unleashed on this planet.

Love,

*j!

[Abe @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

If the Treo design has a center button (it�s like ok button) why they add an extra OK button?
I still have some questions about the photos, because they can take some screentshots from a PocketPC and view it in full screen mode in that Treo prototype as I did it in this post: http://www.pdamexico.net/content/view/78/ I put some PalmOS 6 screenshots in my Zire 71.

[Yoonoo @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

The center button is for "Action" while the "Ok" is to minimize/close application windows.

[PhilJ @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

On that first pic, both radio buttons are selected. Must be a bug.

Nice phone though.

[Tyler @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

This would be awesome, I like the Treo 650, but hate the Palm OS!

[Whizack @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

#31: she was probably saying you should wait a few weeks until they got devices with the new firmware update on them to fix MMS issues, etc.

if we had a treo running WM5 coming down the chute, we would know about it... considering WM5 is a farstep from Pocket PC 2003SE.

Your "verizon girl" is still a sales rep, and doesn't know jack about product releases, most of the time they dont tell reps about phone releases until the day it comes out. Infact they did that exact thing with the 650... reps knew it was coming out... but didn't tell them when or give a timeline because they knew sales would slump on the old device if they told the reps when it was releasing.

[Porkchop @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

I'm looking at a 650 right up next to these pix, and I have to say, I think these are a fake. There are too many similarities to the 650. The only thing that is really different is the middle row of buttons above the keyboard, and even those look fake to me. Also the back speaker section is uncharacteristicly large and the camera section looks fake.

[Chris Longo @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

note to self there is no treo 670 i have scoped out verizon and they only have the 600 here in NJ
this guy is full of shit!
i have the 650 from sprint pcs and the keys are the same i think he added a extra key and relabled it with windows. there is a program called Zlauncher which will change the palm os look to windows xp or mac osx or make your own.
I have installed the macintosh osx look on palm and it is identiical. note this guy is full of crap don't let it full ya.
I asked verizon if they had the 650 they told me they not have it yet they were so surprized they went to look at my sprint phone to see what was new.I also have heard there is a hack to maybe install windows moble on a palm but i have yet to discover it. i think this guy played with the rom settings and they called his treo 670 lol.

[Bill Gates @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

THIS IS A FAKE!!! ITS A CASE swap!! You guys are all fools for falling for this crap. Look at it, its a POS. This thing is fake!! Until I see a video of the user touching the screen and launching apps, its A FAKE!!

FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE!!!

[Stephen Mortensen @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

of corse you say it's pretty similar, hence why it's a treo 670 instead of maybe... 700. they change the OS and add in a better camera and EV-DO...

[iomatic @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

Let's hope it's a fake.

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[Tyler Cooper @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

I just don't buy it.

-Why would Verizon be the first to get a new Treo anyways? Woulnd't P1 want to introduce a GSM world phone above all others? GSM phones can be marketed all over the world and be sold unlocked and unbraded for maximum P1 profit. Not to mention all of the GSM carriers that will pickup the model on release. It just doesn't make sense!

Besides, after release to a global market a buzz will erupt. And then all of the CDMA customers can get Treo's : - )

[Mark @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

Fake, real, who cares? Another brick with Winblows on it.

[Surur @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

Was it suddenly less of a brick when it ran POS? And is the Motorola Q a brick also?

[Justin Bell @ Dec 19th 2005 12:18AM]

There is something fishy-looking about the close-ups of the screen. The Pixel grid effect doesn't seem to line up with the pixels of the OS. Plus there are some funny morie patterns on other shots.

It's possible that the person has taken a photo of the Treo with the screen turned off, so that the highlights/glare stand out well on the black screen, then used a screenshot or custom made image with the "overlay" or similar layer effect in Photoshop, as well as adding some pixel grid effect to make it more realistic (if they did, then that's the give away, because it wasn't done properly).