The new iPod in black

And a shot of the new iPod in white and black.

[Oliver @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

That is the shit.

[leon @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

Wow! That looks soooo...erm...nice....yawn, anyone else bored of iPod drooling yet?

[Usman Tilly @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

Lets see how long this takes to scratch.

On a more relevant note...Apple does not bring anything to the table in terms of features....but what it excels at is distribution.

Being a big company they have the abaility to make deals with big corporations. This may mean that more and more TV shows, music videos etc will become available via other mediums such as Amazon etc.

Once the entertainment industry is confident of the DRM/other protection they will make a lot more money selling TV shows at 2 dollars than forcing people to wait for months for a DVD.

[ydnar @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

for the longest time, probably since the second generation, i've wanted an ipod and not until today have i made the plunge to buy one. for a little while i was waiting for a superior player, but now i really believe all the other dap's have nothing versus this video ipod (at least for the time being). i think it will take at least 2 years before anything can really compete. great job apple.

[Za @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

Yeah, I'll probably buy this. I bought an engraved iPod Nano just a few weeks ago, and had it engraved with the last two letters of my name [Za]. The last two letters of my sister's name also end in Za, so I'll prolly polish the thing using plastic polish and gift it to her, while getting a 60GB for myself.

[Jeff @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

Cool! Only 6 months behind everyone else!

[Little Bobby @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

This is a joke. People you are getting all worked up over something that is pretty, not usefull.

What you are getting for $300-$400 dollars is an iPod Color with a slightly thinner body, a slightly larger screen, and a firmware upgrade. Oh, and the choice of black, with a black wheel, instead of the red wheel on the U2 version.

What you are NOT now getting is a dock AND for the love of god they aren't even including a USB Power Plug. You now are forced to charge the unit off your computer. To have these I am now forced to buy $70 in accessories for a dock and power plug, bringing the 30gig to a price of $370. A year ago I bought a 40gig 4th gen the day of release for only $400. I got 10 more gigs and all accessories included for only $30 more.

As much money as Apple is making off of iTunes, they should either be able to sell these things much cheaper, or stop being cheap themselves and at least include the very basic of accessories. No power plug??? I mean seriously, no power plug???

[SD @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

>> i think it will take at least 2 years before anything can really compete. great job apple.


Are you for real?????

http://www.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=210&subcategory=211&product=12985

[James @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

I agree with #6. This Video capable ipod is nothing significant. The screen is so much smaller compared to other PMP and it doesn't support DivX or XviD.

[Dan @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

Does anyone know if the Photo will be able to play videos also? Maybe with the new ipod installer?

[CB @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

>>As much money as Apple is making off of iTunes, they should either be able to sell these things much cheaper, or stop being cheap themselves and at least include the very basic of accessories. No power plug??? I mean seriously, no power plug???

Here's where you've biff'd it. Apple makes almost NOTHING from iTunes. The profit is from the iPods. Almost the opposite situation of the major consoles (make money off games, lose on hardware).

[Mojo Jojo @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

Are you for real?????

http://www.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=210&subcategory=211&product=12985

Yes, but "competes" on what level? Archos and Creative has video players, but neither sell very many of them. Competes on features sure, but marketing and sales...nothing currently touches the iPod.

[Permanent4 @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

ydnar wrote: "for a little while i was waiting for a superior player, but now i really believe all the other dap's have nothing versus this video ipod (at least for the time being). i think it will take at least 2 years before anything can really compete. great job apple."

You're joking, right?

http://www.permanent4.com/2005/10/pocketdish-already-better-than-video.html

[embassy @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

ill give it a week b4 the onslaught of complaints and defects start poppin up....only apple fans wud buy s device the HOUR its announced with no outside reviews or feedback OR testing...: sigh:

[coolkamio @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

"Does anyone know if the Photo will be able to play videos also? Maybe with the new ipod installer?"

No, the iPod Photo/Color uses the 5020 chip from PortalPlayer, the new iPod Video uses the 5022, wich is much more powerful..

[Jeramy @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

so what happened to the remote connector? sure, you've got the whole wireless remote now, but i don't think a lot of people are going to carry around their ipod with the dock on it. they should've put the receiver in the ipod, but whatever.

[Trent @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

I will NEVER understand the world's current fixation on the iPod.

[Little Bobby @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

CB, ok you got me there. But seriously, has it sunk in to the fan boys yet that they are paying $300 for a product that doesn't even have a power plug?
You are now not buying the 5th gen because it's better, has more features and has better accessories. You are buying it because it is an Apple. Sounds like Microsoft products to me...

[Mat @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

I don't suppose the black ones come with black earbuds? :)


hahaha, I had to say it.

Also, the Creative Zen Vision is pretty hot.

[TEN @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

Who wants to watch video on a dinky little screen? I strain my eyes enough staring at a freaking computer monitor all day at work.

[Myles @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

I am interested in a Video iPod...but...I'm not anywhers near ready to say that it's "The Best" portable media device around.

My main two reasons I will be getting one are

One the price. Cheaper then most(all?) other DMPs.

And two Pixar is bound to release there movies for the iPod...I mean hello? :P

Anyways...I checked it out and the Zen Vision is about $90-$100 more then the new iPod. For what? Voice recording. :P

[Ricardo @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

black ipod says: "Please,white. Do not hit (scratch) me."

white ipod responds: "It does not matter, the bunch of fanboys will gang you up"

LOL

[raindog @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

Only 60GB on the high end? For a VIDEO player?! My CD collection won't even fit in that, much less my total MP3 collection, or music videos, or pr0n.

Ah well, guess I have to buy Archos after all. Wonder if they'll put out a 120GB model before Xmas.

[Will @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

I think this is just what I need. I go on many basketball trips and sometimes the drives can be rather boring, even with music. Having photos on the iPod wasn't very attractive to me, as why when would I really look at a bunch of photos? But with videos, that is different, on the drive, another and I could just watch a movie the whole drive. The 'small screen' doesn't really bother me, as we used to play 4 player Halo 2 on a 5" screen last year on the trips, so picture 5" divided in 4 separate parts... and we still have fun and could play fine. So I'm sure 2.5" screen with a movie won't be a problem.

Now the only problem I can think of is the battery. So it lasts for 14 hours with music, but how long for a movie? I heard 2 hours... that isn't very much. Is that just speculation or is that fact? Help please.

Also, what's all this about extra accessories? I thought you could just use a USB 2.0 cord to hook the iPod up. You need a dock now? Huh? Power plug? I'm kind of clueless...

[sr @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

#23 you still don't need a dock. This power plug they bitching about is just to power stuff like the iTrip from the iPod.

[tf @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

Ricardo, you gave me an idea:

They should do a commercial featuring the classic Sly and the Family Stone and/or Perry Farrell (and was it Ice-T) song "Don't Call Me Nigger, Whitey"

Black iPod: "Don't call me nigger, Whitey!"

White iPod: "Don't call me whitey, Nigger!"

Of course, that could be a little racey for primetime.

Hell, I felt slef-conscious jsut typing that here.

[h0mi @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

I think this was a dumb way of doing the new video ipod. If the new ipod had a portable DVD player form function- it could even be as small as 5", I think it'd work far better than this does. If it can interface with those in car DVD players/consoles that's a huge plus for it. I'd need to see one of these before I considered buying one. My 40 gig ipod photo is still sufficient for my needs.

[WillH @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

"Only 60GB on the high end? For a VIDEO player?! My CD collection won't even fit in that, much less my total MP3 collection, or music videos, or pr0n.

Ah well, guess I have to buy Archos after all. Wonder if they'll put out a 120GB model before Xmas."

Um... wtf? 60 gigs ISN'T ENOUGH? There arn't any micro drives that small over 80 gigs, and the 80 gigger just got released. A DVD movie at full resolution is generally between 4 and 6 gigs... compressed to 320x240 you're probably looking at around 300-500KB a movie for high quality. And unless you are compressing at some ridiculously high rate (for mp3), then 60 gigs (probably around a thousand hours or 40 days) of music should be fine. Unless you're using AIFF or WAV or something... which is ridiculous for portable use. This is a portable player, not a media center.

[sr @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

#26 5" is small? For a dong maybe, but not for a portable music player that plays video also. Yeah you can go ahead and put it in your pocket so it can make up for your small dong.

[sr @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

#26 5" is small? For a dong maybe, but not for a portable music player that plays video also. Yeah you can go ahead and put it in your pocket so it can make up for your small dong.

[h0mi @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

5" is small? For a dong maybe, but not for a portable music player that plays video also.




I've never seen a DVD player with that small of a screen, and my comment suggested Apple create their video ipod in that form factor. Of course, this isn't the "video ipod" but an ipod that does video.

[Patrick @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

It looks damn good, that's why people will buy it. They don't care about DivX, XviD support, a dock, USB plug or whatever. Hell I want to buy it, even though when I look at PMP, I immediately go towards supported formats.

It looks sexy, it's something even girls will want to buy even though they don't know how to use it. It's "cool" to know how to work your iPod, can't say the same for say Archos AVxxx or Creative Zen xxx.

Eventually someone will hack it to play DivX etc. formats. You wouldn't expect Apple to support these formats anyways.

A good thing is that a lot of videos on the web will probably now shift towards the format supported by the video iPod, whereas before every different website would use its own format.

I think its time device manufacturers got through their head that design is everything. Notice for every other DAP or DVP, the seller lists technical specifications, but not for the video iPod. In 3 pages of Engadget coverage, I haven't seen more than 2 lines of technical specifications. Why? Because when it comes down to it, it's not important.

Did I mention that it looks awesome?!

[embassy @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

patrick...

those are the words of a true sheep...comsumers who think like that are nothing more than insects drawn to bright lights...

[Red Hot Chili Pepper @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

Black looked good on the nano, this is better in white if you ask me.

[ectopa @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

#23 i always wonder how someone can have so much music. I mean how many songs can u listen to, it would take probably two weeks nonstop to listen to 120GB of music if not more. So 60GB is bad?? Get a life.

[Goobimama @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

Excellent stuff. Finally i think I'm going to succumb to buying the iPod...And I'll make sure its black.

[te @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

woo hoo..looks cool..how hard is it to stick a radio tuner (for live news, talk radio etc.) and how about a removeable battery?.. still trying to resist temptation but it is getting harder..

[Zymonk @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

It looks great but they should make a black dock too.
With the record profits that Apple is realizing,
I think they could afford to stick an AC adapter in the box.

[psxp @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

hey fan boys.. we forget this thing only plays 2 formats of video! We cant play .avi, .wmv , .divx .xvid etc!

So you really are stuck to the itunes media or taking even more time to convert from your torrent versions to mp4 format!

blah!

[russ Morland @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

I have a chance to but the 20 gig 4th gen for way cheaper right now because of the release of the vid ipod, I'm thinking this could be the way to go.

[capwkidd @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

I could really care less if the new ipod can play video, all I care about is being able to see all the stuff I would on the scree (artist, album, song, album cover, whatever), on the TV screen using the video out... which should of been the case of the ipod photo, anyone know if this will be the case with the ipod video?

[babble @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

Ok, really.

Think.

Two minutes of rational thought. That's all it really takes.

Apple's headed toward a media player monospony, not a monopoly. The fundamental difference? *Lots of competing products in the marketplace*. If the iPod isn't your cup-o-swill, buy one of the competing products. Pissing and moaning about how unbelievably awful the iPod is because it won't play your pirated, bittorrented crap (except, inconveniently for you, much of it will be able to be converted in QuickTime Player just fine) is pointless.

And largely sour grapes.

[Tara @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

I like it, I'm a girl and I don't just like it because it's sexy. I have to commute to college and I don't mind converting an episode of Futurama to watch on my way.. I'm definately gonna get one when they get released in the UK (next week).

[Zoo @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

I'll buy it. I was planning on buying the 60 gig anyway. Now it comes with video, free of charge(i dont mind leaving it connected to my computer.)
H.264 means video at very small file sizes and at very high quality. If we can save movies at full resolution (and i think we will be able to) and connect it to our T.V.'s(which it should), then this ipod will be revolutionary.no one will ever have to carry a dvd again. Imagine your entire music and movie libraries in your pocket(when the hardrive gets big enough, ofcourse).

[LiQuiD_FuSioN @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

#28

Um.. listen, SOME people collect alot of music. That's just it. BIG DEAL, eh? My father has over 100 gigs of music because.. well he's bought alot of CDs and listened to alot of artists over the years.

Even a 60 gig iPod couldn't be able to conveniently hold his entire music collection, but at the time only a 40 gig was available. And he uses it just fine.

Why is it so ridiculous? To me, these players need to aim at the file hoarders too. Over the next 10 years, your miniscule collection (what is it, like minimalistic 5 gigs? haha) will grow over 40-50 more gigs, who knows. In my opinion, it's great to have the extra space as I download lots of music. And it's important to think of the future.

[Chris @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

Anyone know what the case that is included is like?

[Kpod @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

"comsumers who think like that are nothing more than insects drawn to bright lights..."

hrmm... whats that big bright thingy in your face right now?

me likey new ipod... fits lots o' pr0n ?

[matt @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

hey buy an 200 gig external hard drive if you want more memory or a portable dvd player if you want a bigger screen.

Im going to buy one so i can listen to my cd collection with cds in my car and while excercising. Im not going to invite my friends over so we can watch the pirated movie i downloaded on my 2.5 inch screen. thats what tvs are for.

[Kpod @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

This thing is going to revolutionize my poop breaks at work!!! haha

[josh @ Dec 19th 2005 12:20AM]

stop referring to it as a "Video iPod". This is not a portable video device. This is a audio player with a "bonus" of the capability of playing videos... So there is no reason to complain about Apple's lack of video features since this is not the primary use. Apples target was not portable video but a new generation of iPod with smaller HDD's (physical size)and some extras. When they do produce a "Video iPod" i'm sure we'll see something fantastic.