Users report Xbox 360 "crashing like mad"
By Marc Perton 
posted Nov 23rd 2005 11:05AM
posted Nov 23rd 2005 11:05AM
So, the Xbox 360's been available for, what, 15 minutes, and already the crash reports are streaming in. According to postings on Xbox-Scene and other fan sites, some early adopters are discovering that waiting on line in the cold for two years to snag a box was the least of their problems: the game consoles are allegedly crashing during a variety of games and reporting a range of error messages. There's even a pic up on flickr that purports to show the 360 crashing as the Microsoft logo loads. Sure, it's too early to declare this a pandemic and start hurling Xboxes out of windows, but it still has us wondering: How's your 360 holding up?
P.S. And yes, our Xbox has crashed a bit too — though nothing too terrible.
[Thanks, Persian]
AHAHAHAHAHA!
wow. I was going to wait a couple of months after the rush has subsided and now have just one more reason (other than the fact that there are none available).
Hope this isn't wide spread...
Mine crashes a lot while playing Project Gotham Racing 3...nice job M$
I mean what did you expect? New hardware architecture + microsoft. This was the reason Xbox Live Silver is free.
Thats issue KB4398752934875
I'll wait for SP1 and some hotfixes before I get one myself.
I could care less. The only issue I see with this is that this is not a computer, but a console gaming machine. What happens to the people that don't have a high-speed connection, or a connection at all for that matter? Will they send discs to these people with Xbox updates? I say partner up with AOL to distribute patches on those AOL discs that are everywhere(that way they will actually have a use)
Crashing is a standard feature. Microsoft product, eh.
YEah me too. I was playing Need for Speed and the game froze as I was selecting my car! wow i was surprised. I reset the XBOX and hopefully it wont happen anymore!
Well done MS.
LOLlolLollolLoLlolLoLlol....... thats why im waiting for the future versions to come out. you know..... when they finally get a hold of things and send us a product that actually works. Forget waitin in line. I can wait a few months-to-a-year.
WoW thanks God I din't buy that :P I bouht The nintendo DS w Mario Kart. but that sad for the little kids w xbox 360's very sad holidays :(
Gates I want you to save every kids holidays!
Service Packs on an XBOX!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH... i love my regular xbox but holy crap am I gonna wait before i go get a new one. I don't hate microsoft but i do hate their bugs...I HOPE APPLE WILL MAKE A SYSTEM! IT WOULD ACTUALLY WORK... J/k or am I?
This is a great example of why I switched to Mac OS-X.
An Apple a day makes the crashes go away.
My friend's NHL 2k6 (360 version) crashed a lot, we thought it was just the game. Popped in another game - that Kamenowhatkamacallit game and we had the same problems. The system also runs very very hot. That's what you get with those G5 processors. Apple knows what they're doing by switching to intel. M$ should of added liquid coolers to this puppy.
What do you think that seal of certification stands for anyway? Certified Microsoft Blue Screen of Death Product. My system hasn't crashed yet though. I've only been playing Perfect Dark Zero, and other than that I've been downloading a lot of trailers and stuff.
What do you think that seal of certification stands for anyway? Certified Microsoft Blue Screen of Death Product. My system hasn't crashed yet though. I've only been playing Perfect Dark Zero, and other than that I've been downloading a lot of trailers and stuff.
I've had two lockups (multiplayer in COD2 or PDZ) both on the first day I got it, Saturday. Since then it's never crashed again and we played quite a few hours of those games in multiplayer the rest of the evening and over the next few days. But I also posistioned the system to upright instead of lying down, heard it works best upright.
DUH! It's a microsoft piece of crap product. Typical microsoft product, release it way premature and watch it crash to high heaven. (hmmm... kind of like Windoze!) Playstation for me please!
I got mine at 6:00AM. I've also waited in the line for 6 hours, and it was FREEZING!! The temp was around 35F, and most people had blankets, butnot me. LOL
Anyways, I've been playing Project Gotham Racing, Perfect Dark Zero, and Kameo the whole day yesterday, and simply, NOT A SINGLE CRASH. It is so far flawless, and is working beautifully. :D
my Kameo disk keeps being detected as a DVD instead of a game. when it tries to play the disc as a DVD it gives an error that it is a 360 game. make up your mind! power down and back up with disc in system already is only way to play the game.
#8
The Playstation 2 had similar problems on launch.
typical microsoft, they're so convinced that this headstart will help them beat sony this time round, but the horrific press they'll get off this will set em back a couple of months at least until people decide it's been updated suitably (i.e. the xmas shopping season) and some people will just be put off forever
hilarious! absolutely love it
do they NEVER learn?
That makes me laugh. Good job M$.
I'm just sad they didn't make a BSOD for the Xbox.
Yet another reason to never buy a 360.
Wow arent we a bunch of antimicrosoft fanboys over here. At least wait until more reports come out too see how widespread it is before talking shit on microsoft. Anyone remember the problems with the first PSPs. "Wow look an another shitty (insert Sony or Microsoft depepending on the fanboy) product released too early. (insert opposite company here) for me please!"
#10 But it's only funny when it happens to M$. (See what I did there? The dollar sign looks like an S! Isn't that clever?)
I heard that on NPR yesterday and immediately thought that once they made the comment "Microsoft is trying to get into the living room" that all this is gonna do is be a "Fight Starting" game system, cuz dad's gonna wanna watch a movie on it, older sister's gonna wanna listen to music on it, and there's that little brat kid that wants to be playing some stupid video game... what a lame idea for a gaming system
Has been working fine for me...many hours played...many different games...no problems.
Mine is home (a core unfortunately) and working perfectly. At least the box doesnt sound like a refrigerator when dvds are playing. Mine hasn't crashed or any of the 4 that I have played at friends houses.
And talk about running hot? what about all those MELTED PS3 devkits?
mine works fine, i played with it for a few hours last night.
i only have Kameo and 1 wired controller in addition to the accessories that came with the $400 system.
least powerful next gen console
shunned by japanese market and developers
smacks of microsoft power marketing
and now, it crashes too!
do NOT buy this piece of JUNK. i would have said the same thing months ago, but now it's not only a poor console with little support, it's also a technical piece of junk that crashes.
I wonder how much of the crashing is because people have their 360 shoved up against the back of whatever shelving unit they use to hold their consoles. This puppy really needs to be able to breathe. If your entertainment center doesn't have sufficient air movement, I'd guess crashing would be imminent... design flaw or no.
Well, I haven't had any issues yet but I've only been playing Call of Duty 2 for about 8 hours. I've got PGR3, but haven't even taken it out of the wrapping yet. Not good news regardless...well at least I've got my receipt.
Hmmmmm... Well all I can say is thank GOD it got released on your side of the Pond first. Gives us over in Great Britain time to assess whether we can really be bothered dipping into our pockets to the tune of 200.00 for such a product. I think I will stick with my PC system for the moment.
But they did make a BSOD for the xbox. Black Screen of Death! See BSOD still works! :P
Hmmmmm... Well all I can say is thank GOD it got released on your side of the Pond first. Gives us over in Great Britain time to assess whether we can really be bothered dipping into our pockets to the tune of 200.00 for such a product. I think I will stick with my PC system for the moment.
Check out this thread on the Team XBox site about the problem - its getting huge:
http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=391764
Before people start saying "OMGz!!!1! M$ has made teh Xbox faulty because they sux!", let's look at 2 FACTS here.
1 - In mass production, particularly of stuff like brand new, 1st run electronics, there are always lemons in the bunch. Same with the PS2, same with the original Xbox.
2 - Quite a few of these problems have been caused by user error. Some people weren't connecting the power cords properly, resulting in the "red flash of death" that comes from the ring of light. Also, those who took it back from being out in the cold as they came home from queuing all night didn't give it time to adjust to room temperature. Hence condensation inside the unit, hence crashing. There are more examples of things like this, with people having problems getting the controllers to connect because they've been using them near interfering devices.
No doubt there will be a decent number of faulty units, but a lot of this BS has been caused by user error too. Now Sony/Nintendo fanboys/MS haters, begin the bashing.
"But they did make a BSOD for the xbox. Black Screen of Death! See BSOD still works! :P"
LOL, I didn't even think of that! Good one!
All you people saying "the xbox needs some air circulation and needs to breathe." PLEASE.
If the xbox is supposed to be this "all in one media center" then it's supposed to be put in a cabinet, put on a shelf, etc.
I call design flaw.
Mine works wonderful, played 24 hours straight not even as hot as my desktop PC IDLE. Played Kameo, PDZ, Condemed and King Kong also played that Geometry Wars freaking SWEET game, streamed music flawlessly it even categorizes it for you and everything totally awesome!
I never planned to get an Xbox 360 anyways, but this is the reason why I wouldn't camp out at a store waiting to get it the second it's available.
PWNT
hahahaha! At the end of the day they are still Microsoft. They will never create something that won't crash in a short amount of time.
Viva la Playstation 3!
"Also, those who took it back from being out in the cold as they came home from queuing all night didn't give it time to adjust to room temperature."
Yeah right. The people were outside all night waiting, not the xboxes. The xbox was out in the cold from the time they went from the store to their vehicle, then the vehicle to the house.
M$ is such a joke. all about profits and not the gaming experience. When are they going to learn that loading a console with processors and fancy specs doesn't necessarily make it a great gaming machine. I'm definitely wating for the PS3. Did you guys know that Sony is going to sell the PS3 at a loss of profit in order to push their Blu-Ray drives. Not only will the PS3 be able to play high definition video, support up to 7 controllers and support DUAL 1080P (that's right Progressive scan), but they will make sure their product is perfect before releasing it.
Can't wait for their new Gran Turismo!
The hazards of being a Microsoft beta tester. Watch as the fanbois come rolling in with the most pathetic excuses to justify this. This is going to be fun.
OK, let's clear the air.
It's a hardware problem. The hardware is manufactured by IBM, NOT Microsoft.
Am I the only one who is sick and tired of people using the "M$" shortcut instead of MS? Jesus. Hi there folks, Slashdot just called from 1999, and they want their lame pun back. Just thought I'd let you know.
As for whether or not it needs to breathe, does anybody have a manual from a 360 to determine what Microsoft's official position is on this? I'd love to find out what they recommend. I'd also love to be able to say "RTFM!" to all those lucky bastards that got one when I couldn't. :)
To #27, I was referring to those who walked back with them. It's just a possibility. You seem to want any excuse to hate MS anyway.
After all, you cite overheating as a non-issue because you think it's designed to be put in a cabinet or cupboard as it's a media center. Here's an idea - take a Media Center Edition PC, with a 3.2Ghz processor with 3 cores, a GPU more powerful than anything in the consumer PC market, and jam it in a cupboard whilst playing FEAR. See how long that lasts.
Holy crap I hate fanboys so much. You people disgust me with your blind MS hate.
#18 please cease to exist. You are wasting valuable oxygen with gargbage comments like this:
"least powerful next gen console"
Yup it's the least powerful next gen console. It's also the most powerful next gen console because it's THE ONLY NEXT GEN CONSOLE for the forseeable future.
"shunned by japanese market and developers"
Shunned by japanese market, have you seen sales figures already? Wow man you've got some serious inside hookups becuase it just came out.
"smacks of microsoft power marketing"
Unlike sony marketing or nintendo marketing right? Have you been eating paint chips.
"and now, it crashes too!"
Too early to tell how widespread this issue is or what the cause is. My money is on overheating. The reason it's impossible to tell how serious this issue is is because for every 1 person with a legit issue there are 10000 MS hating turds like yourself working themselves up into a frenzy over something that they have absolutely no first hand knowledge of.
Now before anyone labels me as an MS fanboy, let me say that I do not own a 360 and I have never owned an xbox. The only game system I have right now is a PSP and I haven't made up my mind which (if any) of the new systems I will buy.
ENGADGET. Please do a comparison between the x360 and ps3. Being a girl....and wanting to get the best possible present for my boyfriend, I need your advice! He already has a ps2. Any advice out there??? I know the ps3 is not out yet, but there are still specs right? Please help. =)
Miss May
Maybe MS should have just done what they did the first time: hack a working PC design and rebrand it as a console.
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...it did...? What were the PS2's issues? The only thing I remember is the DRE thing...I thought that came about about a year or two after launch?
...most products have issues at launch 9 times out of 10 it's uber critical techies like us making a mountain out of a mole hill...i.e PSP dead pixels. I had a couple dead pixels and was pissed, now I can't even find them on my PSP unless the screen is a certain color and they don't bother me at all...
What is being described sounds like more than a passing annoyance though, hope it isn't widespread among 360's or MS is in for it.
Quite a few of these problems have been caused by user error. Some people weren't connecting the power cords properly, resulting in the "red flash of death" that comes from the ring of light.
HAHAHAH! How the hell do you not connect the power cords correctly. Do I need a degree in electrical wiring?
Wow arent we a bunch of antimicrosoft fanboys over here.
And calling people fanboys doesnt change the fact that MS is running some shit hardware. I friend got his yesterday. I was up at 3AM this morning and hes IMing me pissed as hell. He was thinking Gotham was glitchy as hell but since he didnt have another game to try it out on he couldnt check if it was just the game. I guess know we know.
This sounds pretty damn widespread. And before someone screeches like a baboon that MS will release a patch. Going to be pretty damn interesting to see how they do that consider the base unit doesnt come with a hard drive.
Consoles are not supposed to crash. That is for computers to do.
My guess is this is heat related. I have an HP ZD7000 laptop that runs hot. If it doesnt get adequate airflow (I prop up the back end) the sucker will shutdown in a heartbeat. Should be easy enough to test if it is.
I really don't get the people who stand in line to pay inflated prices, just to get bleeding edge, potentiall buggy product with few supporting games. More money than brains.
Even if the product was guaranteed 100% working, why bother. Why not wait for more support, lower prices, and easier availability. Same goes for the geeks who camp out in line to see Phantom Menace on the first day. You can see it a couple of days later without wasting any of your time...
I'm glad I didn't buy one. I wonder how microsoft will respond to this. They can't exactly afford to recall them.
who ever said join up with aol is crazy they suck just as bad...no worse than micro. why add insult to injury.
Played PDZ for hours with no problems at all and very little heat. I also have mine vertical next to my TV.
Are these crashes associated with extended amounts of play? I mean if you have the thing on for 24+ hours... then it is going to get hot. Or are these crashes happening earlier?
Also - Buy all three next gen consoles - that way - you don't have to worry about missing out on anything.
Fanboys suck - buy all of them
#25
1. Did you saw a Gamecube crash ever? No? Me neither. Also i never saw a Playstation 1, a Genesis and a Super Nintendo crash. Heck, i never saw a PS2 crash! But i do saw A LOT of crashed XBoxes, and now the 360. This is no "lemons in bunch", this is bad quality. A crashed videogame is unacceptable! Damn, it serves to one purpose, to play games. Even that they cant make it right?
2. Cmon, fanboy, i live in a region where the umidity is damn high and i never had any problems with condensation crashing computers or videogames. "Users fault" its the oldest excuse ever, and perfect to divert attention from the principal fact: that the XBox 360 has issues and the company must be responsible for them. I dont care if the makers are Microsoft, Apple, Sony or 3DO. They should never sell a broken product in first place.
I hate when my consoles crash -- Sony stuff, Nintendo stuff, Sega stuff -- oh wait, that has NEVER happened.
Welcome to the Xbox3Sh*tty.
Furthermore my PS2 did lock up after its first hour while playing Timesplitters. Everything will crash once and a while, PC, Mac, Linux, 360, PS2, whatever. But since it is Microsoft the haters will have to make a big deal of it.
I played a ton of online PGR3 and Madden last night without a single problem. Smooth as silk the entire time.
I think "crashing like mad" is a bit over the top. Some people are obviously having problems though.
My system has been running great. I even left it on all night (while downloading a 500MB demo for NBA Live 06). This morning is was warm, but not hot to the touch. Certainly not as hot as some laptops (Dell) I have used.
I have not experieced any crashes.
....my issue is with my rechargable battery packs not working...
my dreamcast had problems from day one...crap, add that to the list of similarities between the DC and XBOX2.
Anyhoo, crashes are normal on first runs, they will be worked out, recalls will be made yadi yadi yadi, to me it's what you get for not selling it on ebay for 600 bucks. I felt the same regret with the PS2 when it came out but that was because it had horrible launch games.
serves you right for buying a MS branded product.
You never saw a Super Nintendo or a Genesis crash? Well, no kidding. I never saw a calculator crash either.
At this point it doesn't help being alarmist or ignoring the problems. In a couple of days, we'll definetely see if there's any widespread problem... watch those MSFT stocks... One thing for sure, i wouldn't want to be the dude who bought one on eBay for a Gazillion bucks...
#46 if you have never had a console lock up or crash then you don't play games. No console will ever be perfect, something will go wrong sometime. Of course you would be saying what I am saying now if there were about the PS3.
RuneSpyder...nicely put. I needed a good laugh this morning.
Dave ,
MS designed the f-ing damn system you tool. Its MS problem not IBM. And the excuses just keep on coming.
Wow, you people are angry (and some of you are mighty pathetic and bitter)!
I have had one problem with my 360, and it wasn't a crash, it was an audio issue while playing Live.
And whoever said that a Gamecube has never crashed needs to come over to my place, I have something educational to show you...
Eric ,
BS. I NEVER had my Game Boy crash on me. I never had my N64 crash on me. I never had my Genesis, PSX, or Saturn crash on me. Hell for that matter I never had my launch day PS2 crash on me and I play games. So please. Continue with the excuses ad nauseum
*Mutters under breath* This is why I said to wait for the Revolution, but did anyone listen? Nooo...
I got my Xbox at 12:11 AM on the 22nd and haven't stopped playing it since (well i did log on some WoW in between sessions). Mine has never messed up or locked up. I have NFS and PDZ. So that sucks to hear that.
I just wanted to point out, what low expectations people have. You get an Xbox360 at the launch and some have said "Crashes will be normal" or "should be expected." Why? Just because it was JUST released?
Why is it with things like this, we are to expect crashes as "normal"?
MS wants to get in the market first, so they rush design/production/beta testing or whatever to be first and get your money. And the thanks you get is a product that crashes.
They designed this from the chips up. Windows products must be compatible with a jillion things, so I can much more easily understand issues with that sort of launch. But they DESIGNED the Xbox360 and they still can't manage to avoid crashing?
I think it just goes to show you their priorities. Rather than make a well tested, solid product, they were more interested in getting out before Christmas to get the market share, to make more money. Should we have expected anything less?
I love MicroSHAFT!
I own several of the products that they make (software and hardware)
You kind of get used to the cra.......
Crashes, sorry i had to reboot
Keep waiting for that Revolution Eskimo...hope you enjoy it.
This is exactly what to expect from a prematurley released 1st generation product. I had a feeling something horrible was going to happen to the 360. It was obvious becuase they try to release something too early in order to get a big advance in sales, instead they neglect a major problem. I see lawsuits in Micro$oft'$ bleak future. They should have released it with the PS3 next spring. But anyway, crashing and the legendary blue screen or death are standard features on Micro$oft's shi++y products! Go APPLE!!
I got my Xbox at 12:11 AM on the 22nd and haven't stopped playing it since (well i did log on some WoW in between sessions). Mine has never messed up or locked up. I have NFS and PDZ. So that sucks to hear that.
First thing, M$ and $ONY are companies that are in the business of making MONEY.
That's their whole point. Not to make awesome cool things for geeks, but to make MONEY.
They are corporations for f*cks sake.
So quit thinking your company is better because it has the fans in its mind. If it does, its only because it think that approach will make them more money.
Christ, I wish economics was mandatory in middle school, there would be a lot less idiot comments.
Oh, also, its been what-- 24, 36? hours since the launch?
How do we know that the problem is widespread/ chronic yet?
In one weeks time, if a sizeable percentage of the consoles are found to have frequent errors, then yes, MS clearly has a faulty product, and issues to deal with. I doubt this will be the case. We'll see in a week. It's not like they threw out the system without testing it first!
One last thing, in 6 months or whatever, when the PS3 comes out, the next day everyone is going to talk about all its problems and how it is crap.
If you want the benefits of being an early adopter, you have to suffer the consequences of an early adopter. If you want an awesome system that you know is the best, you'll be like me... wait until you've seen all 3 systems have been out for a while and then make an informed decision.
geez, what a bunch of whiney fanboys. I hope I get to use my dollar sign to spell corporations too!
33..while your comments are somewhat valid, it does not change the fact that the xbox hasent proved to be rather underwhelming..its not quite as super great as i expected. Not the ps-> ps2 change. Also, the ps3 has arguably better specs. However, the least powerful next gen would be nintendo rev, probably.
As for the japanese market, MS has tried, but have you seen the kind of fare Ms offers? DOA delayed, no proper rpg on charts, barely any old xbox compatibility, the few rpg's which ARE coming are too few anyway. So, while it may sell more than its older iteration...in all probability its a flop.
As for marketing...well, its not that sony and nintendo are laggards, but MS overhypes its products a little too much. Not that its bad...but the mtv thing was horrible.
And while the crash problem may be overheating or just bad code, and is still not really widespread, it does exist. And its disappointing, though not unexpected
Please understand (as with last gen) members from the opposite side (Sony vs M$) are going to the boards reporting fake problems to dampen the launch. So I would read everything with a grain of salt. Unless you yourself have seen it happen.
Well its a MS product what did you guys expect ?
Who cares? Why are people buying this system anyway... its games suck. The best games have always been on Sony and Nintendo consoles, not Xbox.
And yes, Halo is gay. Most overhyped game ever.
Using the lame ass 'M$' instead of 'MS' is just as stupid as putting "!!!11!!1lolzbbq". Could there be a link between these two childish groups of morons? I think so!
#63, im with you. I play games since the first Atari 2600 came out and tried almost every console and computer i could. I read a lot of stuff and talked to a lot of people about games. Since the XBox, i never heard about consoles crashing! NEVER!
Its amazing to see how standards can be so low over time. "Oh, i just bought this console and it crashes a couple of time, but its ok for me". Cmon! Its not about Microsoft, its about you spending money and not getting what you paid for. Maybe your daddy dont care, but we, the ones who work a lot to buy things, deserve a better treatment. Were not asking favors, were demanding quality.
Anyway, Im not buying an XBox 360 until i see what MS will do about it. And if these issues where caused by overheating, Im sure the Playstation 3 will suck too if they dont do it right.
Why am I not surprised? :P
people get a life. My first PS2 has crashed so many times! So has my x-box! Why are you all so angry! Do you all own sony's stock! Because truthfully in the long run if you don't want the x-box 360 than don't buy it! Don't make lies to convince people not to buy it because I am sure half if not 3/4 of the people here are sony diehards and fanatic!
Dave: No, sorry, the hardware is manufactured by MS. IBM is only supplying the processors - MS is doing the motherboard.
Now, to be honest: I can't stand MS for a lot of stuff (especially Windows), but they tend to do hardware decently well (all of my mice and keyboards are MS), so I am surprised at the number of problems the 360 seems to be having.
As a hardcore gamer myself, I have only had two consoles crash on me, ever (and I come from the Atari 2600 generation, folks): My Dreamcast did crash from time to time, but it was when it was runing games based on the Win CE code that it was compatible with; and my Nintendo 64 crashed, twice, in the same place on a specific cartridge ("Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine"). Neither of those were issues with the console, but rather the games. And neither of the two PS2s my wife and I own have ever crashed.
Unfortunately, it seems the the 360 is crashing on different games (PGR and PDZ seemingly the two that crash the most, but it's not limited to those), so my initial thought is that the 360 probably gets really, really, really hot. Putting it in a well ventilated area is the first thing people should try. Pull it off the entertainment unit and put it on a TV tray or something (NOT on the carpet or the rug) and then run it to see if it crashes that way. If it does, then you know it's the console itself.
BTW: I'm not buying a 360 (buying a Revolution at launch, but that's me), but I hope everyone who has gets to enjoy it. The price is nothing to sneeze at and it would be disappointing to see a major recall on the consoles...
Anyone who buys a microsoft branded product gets what they deserve.
Some people never learn.
It's sad that people get so worked up about consoles. I can understand it coming from the really younger gamers, but anyone that's out of their teen years should really grow up.
I'm sure a lot of these people can't afford more than one console, or can't afford to pay the premium you get stuck with to jump in early. Or maybe they just couldn't find a 360 to purchase. I'm lucky in that I can afford a 360 and a PS3, but even if I couldn't I'd make a rational decision as to which console to go with. And I wouldn't slam the competition just to reassure myself that I had made the right decision.
I bet the majority of these issues are due to people stacking the player and not allowing them to breath. Also, I bet the units are more susceptible to voltage issues and other issues.
Also, in this day and age, one idiot can spread the "hate" for miles. I have seen a couple posts that are clearly the same person on different forums. It happens all the time and this time is not the exception.
Also, guess what, some are going to fail. Early production will have higher failure rates and lower yields, its just part of mass production. It happens to cars, computers and Xbox 360's.
If you wanted to make sure you got one that didn't have an issue, then you should have waited in line for a life and waited for a 360 in a couple months.
In product design, user errors = design errors. If you can plug an x-box in wrong, that is a MS problem as there are simple ways to fix this. Also, overheating due to placement in a crowded entertainment center is something that should have been forseeable to MS. I think there are some people here that are way to pro-MS and Anti-MS, but the simple fact is that this kind of stuff is much more prevalent in MS products. Nintendo and PS2 are sold in the same stores and operate in the same environments and have a much better track record.
#45
Just wanted to say that my gamecube does crash and overheat. For example, if I'm playing one game for awhile and then decide to change, I have to wait for the machine to cool down or it won't restart. I've also had the powersupply fail on me. I don't keep it in a cabinet, but it does sit on the floor and I have a cat with a ton of hair (so I'm sure that hair is causing it to mess up).
My point in all of this is that other systems are not immune to crashes. Only time will tell how good or bad the 360 is or how smooth the PS3 launch goes.
With that said, I will probably get one in several months.
Hey! Only hippies and communists say we're losing in Iraq! Oh, wait, is this the anti Microsoft thread? Sorry. Hey! Only hippies and communists and Sony employees and Apple employees and environmentalists and anti-monopolists, and globalization wonks and peaceniks and libertarians and federal judges and anti-trust advocates and students and artists and left-handed homosexual nazis and fur trappers and spear fishermen and kids and geezers and couch potatoes and also-rans and former heads of FEMA and spammers and wingnuts and Luddites and topologists and tarsiers and hammerheads and hackers say that XBox 360 crashes! You take it back!
First thing I have to say is that this is the spark that MS haters were waiting for. You could have said that the 360 was perfect outside of the power light being annoying an you would still see drones of haters attack the 360 on not being thoughtfull to the color abled...
Now, that being said, if it is true that the 360 is crashing on 1st gen games, this is not a good thing at all. How is a programmer suppose to push the system to its limits if the initial games are already crashing the system?
I just see MS trying to get to the market first, and prior to Xmas, as a hastey dicision. They really needed a great launch to survive next year when the competition comes out.
2 cents.
#35, where do you buy your FUD? Because it's nice and thick...
IBM does not manufacture the 360. IBM manufactures the processors, and that's it. How do you know that the problem is not in ATI's video chipset? These screenshots definitely have video artifacts going on. How do you know that it's not an issue with bad RAM? Or any of a million other parts of the console that IBM *didn't build*?
Get a clue, really.
Well you know what they say....the day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is the day they make vacuums.
Actually, I love my Xbox and I've only had it glitch on a few games (morrowind) but other than that I'm happy with it. I will, however, be interested to see if the 360 problems do turn out to be wide spread or just a specific run of production or whatever. This could be huge.