Verizon gives in, allows DUN from cellphones
Verizon Wireless has given in to consumer demand, and will now allow customers to use most compatible
cellphones as broadband modems. Verizon customers have long
grumbled about the company's unwillingness to allow customers to use their cellphones to connect computers to the
internet, especially since there was never any technical reason not to do so, and many of the phones are capable of
connecting over the company's high-speed EV-DO network. Verizon will begin charging $59.99 per month for the service,
which initially extends to the LG VX9800 (pictured), Motorola RAZR V3c, Motorola E815 and LG VX8100. Verizon is,
however, keeping at least one restriction: DUN via Bluetooth will still be officially
off-limits; the only way to legally connect will be via USB cables. Uh huh. But we're ok with that, right?






















I just got my E815 upgraded to teh $15/month EVDO service. I'm using bluetooth to connect to my HP NC6230 laptop and it works at 80-95Kbps (about 12KB sustained download). Is this speed typical? My buddy gets much faster - 80KB sustained download which would e about 600kbps+ but he is using a USB hard wire to his older LG phone (which didn't require any hacking to get it to work). His LG even has TX/RX levels on teh front pannel when in use - very cool. I'd be curious to hear what other speeds people are getting via luetooth or hardwired.
Verizons v cast LG phones 8100 and 9800 used as hi speed modem how to:
purchase usb cable (available in mobile office kit or music essentials kit-cheeper)install software so you get the drivers.
plug in phone to computer and open control panel, go to network connections and choose create new connection click next and click setup manually connection next pick the connect using dialup.
Then choose your phone and click next. put in whatever you want for isp name and next.Put in #777 for your dialup # next Type in your 10 digit phone # followed by @vzw3g.com for username and then vzw for password.
now go into your phone press ok then 0 the code is all 0's. pick item 3 network select, then 1 for mode and pick 1x only, keep track of what your doing so you can undo it in the future if you want. Pick ok. Now call verizon and purchase the mobile web 2.0. it only costs $5.00 a month. It only takes a few minutes for it to kick in and your on your way at speeds around 850kbps.
NOTE; these instructions work, but I just did it to my phone today so if verizon catches you its your problem. From what I understand they wont catch you if you have mobile web because it showes up on their end as data time and they think you are using mobile web.
I'm not a phone nerd so I can't help you, this is just what i've picked up on the www. good luck
Hi,
Has anyone been able to use the EVDO networking on the Verizon's razr v3c, using the bluetooth.
Ashutosh
verizon modem update to string 42.
I almost forgot to tell you to open network connections and double click the new modem/phone you just setup and open the properties tab go to security and click advanced and open settings select pap only. Now your good to go.
Hi,
I am still getting the error 734 while it is trying to "registering your computer to the network." I looked at the help for that message and tried the fix for using LCP extension etc, it still did not work.
Ashutosh
Looks like Verizon has disabled DUN in the newest Moto E815s. ##DIALUP no longer works. New sw is 8720_01.1E.00. Working version on my old phone was 8720_01.17.03. Don't upgrade! Bluetooth sync still works, though.
Alright guys here is the lowdown.... I moved from T Mo to VZW and here are the differences. TMo yes offers unlimited data on the edge network for 30 dollars a month plus voice plan this is unlimited EDGE and WiFi hotspots... VZW unlimited data for 60 a month. K that sucks... now using unlimited vcast or mobile web you may or may not be caught if you are you may first be charged per KB of usage and possibly at the same time have your contract cancelled and stuck with the ETF... I work for them in the WDTS (Wireless Data Tech Support) and I support tethered connections and the like... and I agree with you guys these are not functions that should be crippled or anything and unlimited data should mean unlimited data so I am sorry. So to help a little here is a code for the 6700 and bluetooth modem support keep in mind this is not given by VZW nor is it supported I just feel the need to share info and sorry I forgot where I found it any way you do the following
from the phone dial ##3328873
enter security code 000000
select edit
select bluetooth DUN and tap edit
select enable
tap ok and restart
I am working on the 9800 to make this work it shows BT DUn enabled in the programming menu but it is not an option when you pair with a computer... so until then remember what may happen if you get caught and read your terms of agreement
Jordan, have you gotten the 9800 to do braodband modem via bt yet?
On a whim, I tried your sequence on my LG enV (9900) and my N810 got the pnone to dial and start to connect. Got data sent and received, but then got "connection failed" on the N810. (same result as before I enabled the bt).
I'd like to try it again after disabling the EVDO, but can't figure how to do that. Any suggestions?
Thanks much for your info do far. Very interesting!
Man, I do want to get that V... Another 2 year commitment is pretty tough to handle, though.
if you have a good bluetooth stack in your laptop it works flawlessley with my e815 and my laptop.
Many many thanks to Patrick on thread# 42 and 44. I could successfully make the connection from my LG6100 phone using verizon mobile web service. I also used PAP security setting and it works too.
The only part I could not do was to "now go into your phone press ok then 0 the code is all 0's. pick item 3 network select, then 1 for mode and pick 1x only." The phone shows 3G1X with Tx/Rx packet bars, but doesn't respond to the OK button. Is this only for bluetooth connection? Or am I missing something?
Patrick, appreciate your help on this.
I am using this $60 plan with an e815. Verizon keeps erroneously charging me airtime whenever EVDO isn't available.
I found posts from someone with this problem. They had to upgrade the firmware on the phone to the new version which also disables bt dun before the bill would come out right.
Verizon can't take away my bt dun!!
I am probably in the wrong blog, but here it goes....Does anybody have a BMW with bluetooth installed? I am having trouble with syncronizing my Verizon phone to my beemer. I wonder if I have to buy a phone through BMW or if bluetooth is still crap. With countless hours of self attempts, and bluetooth & BMW customer service (who couldn't do it either) I have yet see see bluetooth even work with anything including computer stuff that I've tried to sync.
By the way to actually add to this blogg...I've been with Verzion (fka: Airtouch Cellular) for what I just found out to be 10 years now. I have never had any major problems with customer service...hmmm? I agree phones have taken a long time to be come competitive. All my friends with Cingular sound like they're in a garbage can with a ball gag in their mouth. In Los Angeles, their calls are always dropping, and Sprint....well they just suck.
If any body can provide feedback great!
Thanks!
Babbaboochick
I'am upset that there is not a solution for (one I have been able to find at any rate) my new Treo 650 (with Verisons $60 data plan) and a marriage with my Mac Powerbook G-4. All I want is to be able to view those large pages on my 17 inch screen instead of the Treo's 2 inch screen where I have to scroll for ten minutes to see two minutes of data. Is there an answer? Can someone help,PLEASE!
Just for the principle of saying it...
VERIZON DSL TECH SUPPORT SUCKS AND SWALLOWS.
Hi.. I just got a samsung i700 pda phone. I know..it's like 4-5 yrs old.. hehhe.. I lost mine and found this on on craigslist. but anyhow, my question is... I just learned how to active syncronize it to download things off my documents on my computer. I see the two little arrows above the bars going round in circles.. I usually know when im online, and it's mistake i don't ever want to make... verizon charged me so much for kilobites.. or whatever that is called. I need to know if im still loging into the internet when im syncronized to the computer (USB connection).. please help.
Check out bluesoleil they have blue tooth devices that work with the 30 dollar data plan for dun
it is super god product,
yes
I'm a new customer of Verizon. Picked an awesome new phone out today the Samsung SCH-u740. They said it had full bluetooth capability. Got it home and tried to send a picture to my friend's phone via bluetooth... nope. Not even an option. Can't receive a file. No picture sharing, no sound clip sharing, no vids, nothing. So... not a big deal, maybe it'll work as an internet gateway for my TomTom GPS... nope. won't work. So I call Verizon. Why can't I use bluetooth? They say "bluetooth works great, all headsets work with it" ok... headsets are an afterthought of bluetooth. Bluetooth is a PRIVATE wireless network between the equipment I purchased and another piece of equipment. Has nothing to do with Verizon... they explain... "We don't allow file transfers due to piracy." So what Verizon is saying is, I'm going to be treated like a criminal because some people steal pictures and songs? This is like taking away tires on my car because they might run over a dog. Communism. No SIM, No Bluetooth, No fast internet connection, can't even use it as a modem... all of this because they decided I might use it for piracy. Nevermind, had the phone for 2 hours. Back in the box, going back first thing in the morning. So, all we really have is cingular, which sucks now that it's the old At&t. blah.
Use login qnc and pw qnc and dial to number #777, it uses airtime but other than that its free and I've been using it for years with verizon.
These F'ing meatheads need to quit f'ing with Bluetooth and let us use it for DUN!!! I swear, after years of putting up with their crap, including crappy phones and weak selection, I'm going to Cingular as soon as my contract is up.
Hey Verizon, "Can you hear me now!"
Blu soil has compatible bt for verizen dun
yeah me too. i use my v710 and use DUN via bluetooth. this is news?
i assume this will also be available on the Treo 700w?
The qnc/777 thing doesn't work with ev-do, so those of us with a V3c have had to completely disable ev-do to be able to use it that way. (Then it reverts to the 1xRTT or whatever they call the older stuff.)
Yes, this is news. Previously, nearly all EVDO-capable handsets had DUN functionality disabled by default and getting around this was not only cumbersome, but also grounds for service termination.
I've only loosely followed this issue. Can someone explain to me what Verison's beef with Bluetooth is? Is it as simple as they just want to sell cables? I can't really see how it benifits them to figth so hard to nerf a technology like this.
I'm so tired of Verizon disabling my phone's features. I'm planning on moving to Cingular as well. I bought my v710 for bluetooth sync and yes it would be nice to have bluetooth dialup on the newer phones, but VZ wants you to pay for everything, like transferring photos, ringtones, etc.
If they would just stop crippling the phones!
It's just a habit with the US carriers. All of their employees came from Ma Bell, who was the master of captive customers and limited choice. When they spread out to the Baby Bells and then the wireless subsidiaries, they kept using the same tricks to restrict competition among wireless companies. That's why they reflexively do things like disabling functionality and locking handsets to their networks.
Dont get caught up in the title.
Verizon is only extending its 60$ data plan to a couple more phones.
They are giving nothing away.
You still need to hack your phone to use it with your own 20$ dialup account.
i hate and love verizon at the same time. i love their unrivaled coverage area, but i hate their customer service, and i HATE what they do to their cell phones. they cripple the hell out of them. and its expensive. 40 bucks for basic + 10 for insurance and text messaging + 60 for internet = too much mony every month. all in all, i wish they had a cell phone that had full bluetooth and wasnt five grand (exaggerating, but quite expensive none the less)
Does this mean that I can use my lg-vx7000 to connect to my dialup provider (university of michigan) via usb cable for no charges at all even though I am not hooked up on ev-do?
They hate Bluetooth because it enables users to synch their contacts (which they charge you $10 to do, or $5/month with a GIN program) and because you can put wallpapers/ringtones/etc. for free and not pay $1.99 for their ringtone service, or $7 for their games.
In other words, they hate it because they can't make money with it.
here's little known fact....if you sign up for V-Cast ($15-month), all EV-DO service (WAP & DUN) is free...shhh...don't tell...
I bought my vx8000 early last year and the rep told me that subscribing to the VCAST service mean't unlimited mobile internet. The he said that unlimited mobile internet included using the phone as a modem if I bought the Mobile Office kit. I bought the kit and with only a few minor minor device driver headaches, I've been using my phone as an EVDO card for almost a year. The best part is the VCAST service is only $15 month for unlimited data.
The VZAccess software is a little quirky. I get dropped once every hour and occasionally have to reset by phone or reboot, but all in all it works very well.
Mmmmmmmm my purdy phone. :-)
Verizon Wired
Can you tell me how you are using DUN with the V710? I want to use it with my PPC like I did my old e120 but my PPC can't find the modem on the 710.
Thanks
You can use any phone as a modem and use only your minutes. This is true even with VCast, meaning that you can get unlimited EV-DO access on nights and weekends.
I wouldn't recommend it, though... if you look around the internet, there are numerous reports of people being charged for data (i.e. per KB) or having their contracts automatically canceled and beng charged the ETF for doing this... it explicitly states that teathering without a data plan is prohibited in the contract you signed.
tmobile all the way.. edge internet $19.95.. cheapest voice plans in the country...and uncrippled phones.. best of all u can get unlock codes for your phone if ur a good customer.. its a great up and comming cellphone company.. i switched from verizon
I've been using my "LG" as a modem for a while now, though I only get slightly better than dailup speeds, I still got free wireless while I'm on the road and don't have any other option.
If you have an old mobile office kit, just locate the drivers for your phone (you can use third party) and run the connector software. It works fine and dandy.
Everyones right...and that is the reason Ive switched from Sprint to Nextel to Verizon and finally to CINGULAR. Yes, Ive paid about $1000 in cancellation fees, but my hp iPAQ CINGULAR phone kicks @$$. GPS navigation, Bluetooth, QUAD band, MP3 player, nice headset that that shuts off for incoming calls, syncs with MS Outlook the list goes on
But the real reason I swithced to cingular was It has THE LARGEST RECEPTION IN THE NATION!
and that is a fact
ATT Blue sucks thanks to the raping by Cingular but it is not as bad as Verizon ripping everyone off by selling crippled phones while continuing to advertise the full capabilities of the phones.
Verizon sucks.
WOW I didn't know that Verizon charged to allow you to sync your contacts!!! That is CRAZY. OMG.
I don't see why you couldn't just get a cord and a program from the OEM and do it yourself? Back when there was no bluetooth that is what I did. There are even third-party applications that will do the same thing for cheaper.
EVDO via bluetooth on the E815 rocks. I use it on both my powerbook and vaio. Just type ##DIALUP on the phone's keypad and you should see 'Dialup Networking Enabled'. Then use the exact same scripts as are used for the PC5220 card. Check google; there are lots of howtos.
I don't mind the per month price; it's a fair shake for how bloody fast EVDO is in the right markets. It just pissed me off that you had to do it with a PCMCIA. Now I can legally do it with my no-PCMCIA-havin' 12" powerbook and the E815, which is a really powerful combo for portability.
#20 - I diddnt do anything too special to link my v710 to my computer. i just set the phone to discover and searched for available devices thru windows explorer. if/when your ppc finds ur phone, click on "discover services" and DUN should appear. unfortunately it only finds my phone about half of the time when i go to look for it. It isnt a reliable solution, so when it works its more of a "bonus" than anything else. it might be my dell 600m's built in bluetooth that sucks, but i'm too lazy to figure out if that is the real problem. for a real howto, google "verizon DUN". theres a bunch of tutorials on how to set it up once u get this far. if u got any other questions email me at rickhahn13 [at] earthlink.net
Glad to see that others are fed up with Verizon's bullshit! Too bad I switched from Cingular to Verizon
last year....I will now be crawling back to them whether I have to pay the early termination fees or wait it out another year! :(
I had it with verizon. I am glad I left them and have never looked back. If verizon isnt careful, this will become much more common place. They are soo slow to change!