Keepin' it real fake, part XXII: iPod nano 'MP4' player
By Thomas Ricker 
posted Feb 23rd 2006 7:30AM
posted Feb 23rd 2006 7:30AM
[Thanks, Jeroen]
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Well you'd have to be white to get robbed off to that degree! I bought a better fake, really 4GB plays mp3 & amv files for 10 bucks.
wat site can i purchase 10 dollar ipods
gotta love how it's been tested by the "Fcc"
Guess it was just too difficult to reproduce a capital letter "C"
Bummer to whoever payed the $110 for the 128mb. :(
If anyone deserves to have Apple sicced on them, its these guys.
"FOR HOME OR OFFICE USE"
Nice.
And hey, it has a mic!
http://sound.media.mit.edu/mpeg4/
Yep, MPEG-4 audio.
Haha, who do they think they fool?
At least put a screen on it :)
This is the back of the unit, not the front. It does have a screen, about the same size as the iPod Nano. I bought one for my 8 year old son, rather than spotting for the Nano. It does him just fine - although it was a learning curve trying to figure out how to use it, given that the manual is in un-decipherable Chinglish.
Um... what would you expect when you press "Menu"
Notice how the Apple logo is missing the little wedge at the bottom.
-- Elias
$HK 110 = $14USD. May be this is the going price?
#8 That's entirely possible...
So is it US or HK dollars ?
Im betting HK though, since you can get a 128 muvo for $14 these days....
Seems every mp3 player reported on this site within the past month has been a fake ipod report.
How about reporting on some real technology - rather than turning this site into a tabloid.
But it has a sticker that's says "4GB"!
I would believe its a real nano, look at all those scratches, gotta be authentic!
I agree with PEZ, no more fake products here and just make a blog for the fake stuff. Jebus knows there are enough of them.
gotta love how it's been tested by the "Fcc"
Guess it was just too difficult to reproduce a capital letter "C"
actually thats the FCC logo
Isn't Itunes format hidden MP4 anyway, so technically they are all ready for MP4s anyway...?
Well, at least they solved the problem with the screen getting scratched.
lol, thats hilarious. a sucker is born every minute.
Anyone that doesn't like these is out of it. Keepin' it real fake is fantastic and easily one of the most entertaining things on engadget. People that dislike this are the same people that hate it when Tiger Telematics Gizmondo gets made fun of. You have to realize how awful this stuff is to understand how funny it is. Imagine all of the children and the rage getting a knockoff Ipod will cause and how much they will hate their grandpartents that tried to save $8. Fantastic!
I'm with several of the above, make the fake stuff a new section please...we already know there is nothing on this earth those countries can't cheapen for cheaper. It's funny, but I'd rather see som real news too.
Though I am just as sick of seeing fake ipods as the next guy, this one made me chuckle.
I agree with Shane, a separate section would work well. Then those interested can still see the fakes and it doesn't get in the way of the interesting stuff if the novelty has worn off.
MPEG-4 is a video format, AAC is the audio portion of MPEG-4.
So MP4 cannot be applied to the audio portion only. And MP4 is not even officially used, because it simply doesn't have to do with MP3...
The abbreviation MP3 comes from MPEG Layer 3 (the third layer was the audio component of MPEG video).
I wonder what the menu does on that thing since it doesn't have a screen!
Keepin' it real fake is great! If you don't like it, just skip over it, nobody's forcing you to read it - how hard is it to scroll?
Why is everybody saying that these posts should be removed or segregated to their own section?
Just because they rip off the Ipod look does not mean that it is not a good device. Prime example here: http://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=1469976#1469976
Now clearly this is a piece of crap. A big steaming pile. But not all these Nano clones are. By this logic if the Acer model above could fall into the same category if it had been posted just a couple weeks later.
I don't care what you guys do with Keepin' It Real Fake just as long as it's still linked from either the main RSS feed or Daily Engadget.
This is pretty hilarious. I was thinking "well, maybe they meant 4 gigabit", but that doesn't even work.
Keepin' it real fake
I've been given two SONY mp3 players to look at for a friend who's dad got them in HK... guess wot?? they look exactly the same as the 'ipods' above - except these have the 'SONY' logo. Same story, has that 'genuine' 4GB sticker but 128MB inside. At least these come with screens - oh they also play MP3 and MWA !!
my dad got two of the EXACTLY identical mp4 players,he got them from china,both of them said 4 gb.heck even after connecting it to my computer it showed the size of the disk as 4 gb and then i cud only load 109 mb in mine and the other one had only 596 mb or something.if you try to load more stuff after that it says 'incorrect parameter'.my dad got them for like (roughly converted) 25 USD each.its saddens me to know that how insulting that '4 gb' sticker on the back is
22. MPEG-4 is a video format, AAC is the audio portion of MPEG-4.
So MP4 cannot be applied to the audio portion only. And MP4 is not even officially used, because it simply doesn't have to do with MP3...
MP3=MPEG 1, Layer 3
MP4=MPEG 4, Layer 4(yes, also reffered to as AAC)
I have one of those, except it has a screen, and actully holds 2 GB. The firmware is really shitty, not easy to use. Perhaps in Chinese it's easier to understand the UI but in English it's sort of amateurish... and I don't just mean the language. For example, when scrolling up and down menus you use the left and right buttons: weird. Transfer is slow, probably USB 1.0 speed. It's also frustrating that it has a non-standard headphone connector and, since it has an "almost" standard mini-USB, why didn't they just use the standard one?
how can I get the device drivers and device manager software for my fake nano mp3 mp4 player?? I lost the 2 little cds that came with it. by the way, if you want to complain about this cutie, why don't you fork out some real dollars and buy an "ipod nano" the real one so you won't have to bitch about what I consider china's claim to fame, the ability to make extra american products with almost the same capabilities except a US software supercompany to backup their 'made in china' products anyway!
I got one of those from ebay store.
It is neither charging nor working.
Can anyone tell what to do to make it work as the seller is not responding?
I recently recieved this item as a present and was wondering if anyone knew how to play avi or mp4 videos on it? I download mp4s and drag and drop into the folder but wen i try to play the file it says "this is not a movie file" Also wen goto the movies file it is empty, can someone pls help?
Does anyone know how to play avi or mp4 files wen i load them to the Removeable folder the "ipods" movie folder stays empty can somone help me with this?
Omg, only chinese people would do this. I feel ashamed of my heritage. I've got one too, and it's totally messed up and fake. *pouts*
I have one like that, but it actually has a screen!
Get a 1GB instead of a 4GB its more likely to be real because apple bought most of the 2GB and 4GB samsung chips
My father just bought one of those from Beijing. It's also a "4GB" (he also got a "2GB" one for himself; so far, they seem to hold about that amount). Mine is only different in that the iPod logo is on the back, not the front (the two-gig doesn't have a fake logo at all). Oh, and of course, it actually has a screen XD. So far, it's driving me crazy. The software is a pain, and it plays videos... which have already been put on it as a demo. The two-gig came with a USB that didn't even fit it; all of them come with the same instruction manual, which doesn't work. The mic works at least, as well as the free "game(s)" (2GB has a variety of simple ones like Tetris, the 4GB has sudoku), but the FM tuner on the 4GB doesn't work. My father put a folder with a few Word documents on it, and I tried to delete it, and now I have these "USBS" files that won't go away. If I make a folder inside the folder, then try to drag other subfolders into that subfolder, it acts like a "black hole," but duplicates itself infinitely. There's an eBook function, which is really just displays .txt files. And the CD's come with a variety of conversion software (which one am I supposed to use?--some don't work), many of which crash my comp when I try to open/install them (but then again, a lot of things do). It CLAIMS to be compatible (for the song titles, not for the system language) with Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese, Japanese, and English, but so far, only English is working for me. Oh, and did I mention that they have a "QC Passed (A-1)" sticker on them? LOL. But I'm still stuck on it. >_
Ok, I just bought a 8Gb version of this from a company here in teh US called http://www.thecomputerwarehouseinc.net - The price was very fair I thought for what all the feature it could do. The order processing was COD only. How fishy is that. The order is processed out of FL. and the company domain is owned by a 'oriental named' fello from Atlanta GA. when doing a whois. My order is suppose to be delivered on the 30th and I am half tempted not to accept the order after reading some of this feedback. http://www.thecomputerwarehouseinc.net
The site struggles to be up all the time. I've seen it down with a 500 error on and off. I've called the numbers offered on the site to ask questions about the product and left a message everytime with no call back. I wanted to know if the video can be used as a 'video-out' to a TV? much like the video ipods can.
I think I'm gonna let it ship back without payment what do you think? Thanks.
All of you guys who try to save money by buying the knock-offs if your going to do it at least chose the right one. I`ve heard so many people complaining about a new type of knock-off that accoually dosen`t hold a 10th of what its susposed to and other things that mislead people that it seem like a miracle that mine turned out perfect. (Well my computer says it holeds 1.9 Gb instead of the original 2 it said but I think thats just the thing about how nobody can make their mind up about weather a Gb is 1000 MB or 1024 but apart from that it is perfect except that it dosen`t come with a hold button but at least it didn`t say that it did.
In the end if your going to but one of those got to
www.chinavasion.com. It will set you back 70$ plus about 20-30$ shipping. (Mine cost me 107$ CAD in total cause I had to get it shipped to canada. funny thing I didn`t have to pay imort dutys or anything else along those lines. Just pay the 107$ and sign the fed-ed paper and its here.
Continuation of my last one: Mine accoually dosen`t play mp4s it plays amv but it converts from almost all types EXCEPT mp4. Ironic isn`t it?
EVERYONE - these fake so-called iPods are great if you get them from a REPUTABLE seller. (Avoid those advertising 4gig and up players. Only up to 2gig players have tested out OK so far) Yeah, firmware is crap but for the price you shouldn't complain. No one's forcing you to buy it. I wouldn't recommend this kind, though, if you are planning to buy one - get the one with 2 speakers and 2 (standard 3.5mm) headphone jacks. Audio quality and everything is great. It's a great alternative to iPods and I got a 1gig one for only $47.... check out this site for support for these types of players: www.mympxplayer.org
By the way, campus111.com and pigpony.com have some great models. See ya.
I really wish I had done proper research and found this site before purchasing my unit. I too purchased an ipod knock-off look-alike 4GB unit from http://www.thecomputerwarehouseinc.net, and it is garbage. The screen shield was stuck to the box it came in (not on the player), and the USB and speaker plugs were both loosely connected resulting in impossible transfers and use. I began calling for an RMA on Sunday after recieving it Friday afternoon for no response. This unit was nearly useless from the second I opened the package, and it is my fault for not being a little suspect of the too-good-to-be-true pricing ($57+$14 for shipping), which is the cost of the lesson called 'Why you should buy the iPod in the first place.... quality'. The electronics from China may not be 100% trash, but you are getting what you pay for, or less. Good luck to all who dare.
I bought an IPOD MP3/MP4 player in Hanoi, Vietnam for my son. Needless to say we cannot get the software downloaded, his old IPOD shuffle's software does not work for it, and we cannot download songs onto the one from Hanoi. The software that came with it is also in "Chinglish"...
Can you tell me what you did to be able to use yours bought overseas for your son?
Sigh. I'm its owner. I bought it for HK200.
I has 4GB(or '8GB') flash memory, but it becomes 128MB when the flash his formatted.
The video playback is sucks.
The screen is bad enough to view texts.
What you can do are: listening to SOME MP3s, WMAs, recording some audios, play FM(not sure).
That's is a complete bummer, I've seen those ipod look alike's some are good and some are vey bad
http://theplayer007.googlepages.com/mp4saikick
A visit to any market in asia will reveal a slew of fake Ipods. I was asking a local in thailand about fake Ipods. They either dont know what a real Ipod looks and that it is known for being hip in the west sothey dont care that the one they have is fake. Or, they know that their Ipod is fake, but they could never afford to fork over the 200US for a real one, so they are just as happy with the fake one.
Its all relative. It is comical how bad the fake Ipod knockoffs are.
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i have the same problem. when i copy the songs it only shows a % of songs. for eg. i copied 121 songs and it shows playing 1 of 28.
I am one of those suckers, though my fake ipod is a 8GB and has a color screen and can play video etc. My problem is that I inadvertedly used Microsoft Media Player to sync with my MP4 player. If you are familiar with that feature, you can also shuffle the music, meaning it will delete what is currently on the device and replace it with music recently added. It delete also the root files, so now I think it is putting music on the device, it is telling me when I click on Music, that the disk if empty? Can anyone shed any light. Thanks
the chinese government does not restrict its entrepreneurs and wont let the american government punish its people so the chinese are pretty much free to do whatever they want. if you want to get back at the company who scammed you use the following contact info.
Contact Person: Ms. Helen Wong (Business Development Manager)
Company: Xtec Technology Inc
Address: Fumin Road, Shenzhen, Guangdong, China
Zip/Postal: 51800
Telephone: 86-755-82998507
Fax: 86-755-82998203
how to put videos on fake mp4 pls reply
You can but it my not read it.
I'm in the UK. When I received a fake iPod in the post from a West Yorkshire trader I reported it to the local Trading Standards office which is around 10 miles from the trader's business address. However, instead of pursuing the matter locally they've referred it to a Trading Standards office over 200 miles (4 hours drive) away! It makes me wonder how serious they are about eradicating the distribution of fake and counterfeit iPods.
I also have a fake Ipod from China I bought it off ebay- it worked when I first got it, then I installed the mini-cd that came with it. Now the computer doesn’t recognize it. If anyone has access to the software or any pointers that would be very helpful. Please email me at idahocowboy@gmail.com
It will not because the hard ware is missed up totaly in the Ipod it's self. Be carefull it my cause some of your hard ware deviceis to act up and you may start to get a pop like sound as if a window was openning and closing on your computer. If this is happening go to your hardware manager and look for the hardware that looks like but is not your Ipod/mp4. It should have a yellow dot witha ? mark in it. Just remove or uninstall it.
I bought a 1GB fake in thailand recently,but cant get the software to run or put any music on the "ipod",any tips?
Hey!..quiettype55...what the fakePods(your player)means when it flashes a message "Empty Disk" is that..your music are all erased..not only that..All Your Saved Files! are all erased..it is because you have loaded so much music in it and it reaches the highest capacity of files that can be restored in it which will then result to the erasures of files...
I have also bought one of this...actually...you can put lyrics(.lrc file) in it.This can play videos but in .AMV format,there are also already-installed games on it,you can also put telephone directories.
And the greatest thing it does,a simple soft touch or bump to the power button will turn it's power off..
I have an Ipod nano, and it seems to have stopped working, neither does it allow software or music to be installed/downloaded on it, please assisst.
Well I saw those mp3 players on ebay, but did you format it? this may be the reason why it's only 128MB! They precise that we should NOT format the mp3 because it would delete important files in the player. I saw a lot of people saying that those mp3 loose their capacity after formating! So if you buy one, never format it! lol
i went to china this summer. Every store i went to there was like a flood of fake ipods with 1.8 in. screens, no screens, 1.0 in screens, all garenteed to work by the dealer. Lol most of them dont even have a usb port
can anyone help- I require drivers for these ipods? thank you.
The CLONE of the new iPod nano 3G in China.... it looks and feels like the real thing and same size but just not itunes and click-wheel
http://www.s-pod.com/html/mp4_players.html
Thank you very much for telling us such a useful information as i am thinking that There is no duplicate parts and duplicate Mp4 music player in the market.
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