Vista may not arrive with HD media support, but will allow Blu-ray
By Marc Perton 
posted March 15th 2006 4:28PM
posted March 15th 2006 4:28PM
Here's another thing you can add to the
list of things that might not be part of Windows Vista when it
launches: support for HD media. According to a Microsoft spokesperson, support for next-gen media will occur
"either at Vista launch or soon after," but that specific plans are "unknown at this time." There
is some not-entirely-unexpected good news, though: despite Microsoft's backing of HD DVD, the company will support both
HD DVD and Blu-ray; according to the same spokesperson, "there will be a great HD DVD and Blu-ray DVD experience
for Media Center." Eventually.
This just in from Microsoft: "Window's Vista may or may not support PC's at the time of launch. However, a patch will certainly be available soon after."
Why does everyone keep incorrectly calling Blu-Ray Disc, "Blu-Ray DVD"?
#1 -- That's very funny. I'm definitely not a big MS fan and your quasi-quote sounds only about a degree away from some of their actual press releases.
Again, they should not have named it Vista... If they want to instill a sense of power and performance, MS Chuck Norris OS v1 would've worked out better for them.
Seriously -- isn't Vista in some way a direct relative of Longhorn? I cannot remember.
"There is no theory of evolution, only a list of animals Chuck Norris allows to live."
Windows Chuck Norris will include little known facts about the great one during the boot phase.
"Blu-Ray DVD"... maybe because it's technically a digital video disc, but that's about where the similarities end.
It is indeed a completely different animal than HD-DVD.
woohoo...and soon, Windows Vista will not be a full OS at launch, just 200$ worth of skinning and patching, but a patch will be released soon after release in order to cope with things
seriously...MS is screwing up, but the disc industry is as well, they should stop bickering and have their disks hit the stores already!
and this time, at band camp, chuck norris ate a percussionist ;D
Lee, dvd is digital versatile disc by the way.
funny how one of the biggest companies in the world cant even manage this, .net not working and abandoned, patches for viruses in vista beta copies and the list goes on, improve your quality of life, just get a mac, there not as alien as you all think.
This reminds me of this comic: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/1998/12/21
I really don't mind waiting for all this stuff, just as long as it comes for Vista eventually. It's the stuff they're eliminating for Vista that angers me.
All the posters blaming this on Microsoft are pretty clueless. Microsoft is doing with Vista what Sony should be doing with the PS3. They're releasing it without HD capability but promising to upgrade once the assholes making the HD discs finalize the HD disc designs. It's either that, or wait possibly forever while the companies dick around with their DRM. Then you'd be complaining that Vista is taking even longer to be released. Microsoft just can't win with you guys.
#6 -- thanks for the condescension, but I am indeed correct here, as BOTH your definition and mine are correct. What is it with people, anyway?
http://www.answers.com/topic/dvd
And Mr Webster agrees with me also...
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/dvd states --
One entry found for DVD.
Main Entry: DVD
Pronunciation: "dE-(")vE-'dE
Function: noun
Etymology: digital video disc
: a high-capacity optical disk format; also : an optical disk using such a format and containing especially a video recording (as a movie) or computer data
Why? because DVDs are primarily found containing video information. (of course, software and myriad other things are on DVD nowadays, but that matters not for this example.)
@andy: ".net not working and abandoned"
What!?
#3 - Yes, Windows Vista is "Longhorn". However, Microsoft, not wanting it's OS to sound "cheesy" like a form of cheddar or run the risk of being sued by the University of Texas, went with Vista.
Right. So in the end, Windows XP sports more features and offers more overall functionality than the highly touted Vista, which was a good dream with a far less inspiring reality.
However, the good news for Microsoft fans is this: if you do adopt Vista, you'll be treated to prettier graphics - and if you don't adopt Vista, well at least most companies will be smart enough to continue support for XP until a suitable Windows OS replaces it.
#11 -- Living in Texas, I'd say UT would very likely be more than a little angry if it were called Longhorn, eeven though it is just a really big cow.
And yes, it would definitely be a cheese-tastic name for an OS, wouldn't it...
Maybe Windows Sloth... nah.
"Lee, dvd is digital versatile disc by the way."
Argh, this is a big pet peeve of mine. The "v" stands for neither "video" *nor* "versatile." See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvd
The relevant part: ""DVD" was originally an initialism for "Digital Video Disc." Some members of the DVD Forum believe that it should stand for "Digital Versatile Disc" to reflect its widespread use for non-video applications. Toshiba, which maintains the official DVD Forum site [1], adheres to the latter interpretation, and indeed this appeared within the copyright warnings on some of the earliest examples. However, the DVD Forum never reached a consensus on the matter, and so today the official name of the format is simply "DVD"; the letters do not officially stand for anything."
You can check this yourself if you want.
However, it is worth pointing out that the earliest references to "DVD" all called it "Digital Video Disc", including press releases put out by Sony, one of the founding members of the DVD Forum and one of the inventors of the technology. Toshiba thought that was too limiting and so wanted it changed to "versatile", but it seems pretty obvious by both the timeline and by simple logic that *if* the "v" were to stand for anything, it would be "video" as that was the original purpose of the discs. You can't abbreviate something and then say later that those letters stand for something else. I mean VHS tapes can be used to store digital data too but you can't say VHS means "versatile" home system - it's "video home system" and always will be.
But regardless, *officially* "DVD" doesn't mean anything other than "DVD". You can argue about what you *think* it stands for until the cows come home, but it should be pretty obvious IMO that the "V" was meant to stand for "video" and a few members of the DVD Forum only sought to change that later, and without success.
Eventually... when is the launch?
Unfortunately you're all wrong, The "v" in "DVD" stands for Chuck Norris, DVD's were originally called CND, or Chuck Norris Discs, however the ever graceful Chuck, not wanting to take all the credit, allowed them to be called DVD's, the V an everlasting reminder of Chuck Norris's influence.
"net not working and abandoned"
Matie, you arn't going to sell any Mac's coming out saying daft statement like that. You're just making yourself look a complete and utter ignorant, dishonest tool.
Well done.
i'd like to see the world try to exist without MS. If you like Vista or not, you cant say they dont try to constantly make their products better. I would like to see more companies follow a business plan like Microsoft's, ie Ford Motor, General Motors, hell, even the US Government could learn a few things.
#15 -- Sure, ALWAYS use Wikipedia to get "facts."
DVD does in fact = Digital Video Disc... and ALSO Digital Versatile Disc.
Let's not get into semantics, Jeff... somebody said it wasn't VIDEO, I simply provided the definitons... out of dictionaries, not Wiki. Go tell Mr Webster he's wrong & I'll tell you you're not speaking English.
Besides, what was the point of this article? Vista... and Blu-Ray being referred to as a DVD, which it's technically not, as it uses a different laser, but it is because it's a disc, it's digital, and it can store video.
Sure, DVD is - nowadays - just DVD, without any real definition to those three letters.. so it's all three definitions then.
To #17: You should read up more on what Vista is doing. Avalon is basically to replace .NET. Sure, they might still call it .NET, a child of Avalon. But the routines are, no-doubt, going to be changed from traditional .NET. Myself, I have never used .NET besides what was forced upon myself at college. My co-workers used it and are now trying to hold onto it while the people higher up are thinking about Vista! Seeing that one of our biggest applications is in .NET, and that MS basically said that it will not work until we "revamp" it to work with the Avalon routines, we won't be upgrading anytime soon. Viral marketing isn't going to work here. MS pushed .NET so much, now they're pushing Avalon (or will soon once Vista is public). They have to keep coming up with things or 3rd party software (or, oh no, mac or linux!) just might beat them! So they end support for their old stuff, and say that their new stuff is better and faster. As soon as you port all your stuff to the new stuff, they come out with more! Congrats to the people that started this chain, your job is secured and will have endless fun porting new apps every 5 years!
To #18: You should read up more on what Vista is doing. Avalon is basically to replace .NET. Sure, they might still call it .NET, a child of Avalon. But the routines are, no-doubt, going to be changed from traditional .NET. Myself, I have never used .NET besides what was forced upon myself at college. My co-workers used it and are now trying to hold onto it while the people higher up are thinking about Vista! Seeing that one of our biggest applications is in .NET, and that MS basically said that it will not work until we "revamp" it to work with the Avalon routines, we won't be upgrading anytime soon. Viral marketing isn't going to work here. MS pushed .NET so much, now they're pushing Avalon (or will soon once Vista is public). They have to keep coming up with things or 3rd party software (or, oh no, mac or linux!) just might beat them! So they end support for their old stuff, and say that their new stuff is better and faster. As soon as you port all your stuff to the new stuff, they come out with more! Congrats to the people that started this chain, your job is secured and will have endless fun porting new apps every 5 years!
Do you have a creditable source to back this up? I haven't had any problems running my .NET 1.1 or .NET 2.0 code on my buddy's Vista Beta. I'm not bashing, I'm just interested in where this information is coming from?
I have a post to clear up this issue a bit.
Vista To Support HD DVD Playback (not so much BD)
http://msmvps.com/blogs/chrisl/archive/2006/03/19/86944.aspx