If there was one highlight of Nintendo's press conference earlier today, it was the Wii Remote. While Sony showed off what games on the PS3 would look like, Nintendo's focus was on what they would
feel like. So, it's not surprising that, from the moment a tux-clad Shigeru Miyamoto bounded onstage and conducted a virtual orchestra using the remote, to a climactic tennis game, the unique Wii controller was the centerpiece of the show. So, what did we learn about the Wii Remote today that we didn't already know? For one thing, Nintendo confirmed that the remote does indeed include a speaker, which is used mainly to provide ambient sound connected to actions: fire an arrow, and you'll hear the bowstring being pulled right in your hand. There's also a microphone for voice-controlled gaming. The Wii Remote also includes motion sensors in both the nunchuk and the trigger controller, allowing both left and right hands to act independently and direct onscreen actions. While using the Remote may not be as intuitive and simple as Nintendo's execs want us to believe, one thing's certain: it definitely looks like a fun way to play golf. Or baseball. Or tennis. Or the drums. Or drive a car, truck or plane. Nintendo also had an answer for anyone who isn't quite ready for the Wii Remote: the Wii Classic Controller. We'll stick with the Wiimote for now, but will pick off one of these for when we just have to kick it old skool.
posted May 9th 2006 1:31PM
I was curious if anyone new if you could use the classic controller with the NBA Live 2009?
Does this mean that there won't be a "shell" controller, like previously suggested? Also, Nintendo didn't show the sensor bar that is supposedly required for motion tracking...
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I did not think i could grow any fonder to the Wii-mote, but i just did.
The remote is going to end up costing more than the console...
I think this system will be a huge surprise, much like the DS; slow at first... like an acquired taste.
I've never had any interest in Nintendo consoles before, but this kind of gameplay is completely appealing to me. Now I want this more than the 360 or PS3.
The wii classic controller is on the Japanese Nintendo website.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2006/wii/controller.html
Scroll down to the bottom
how about changing the picture to the new wii controller?
http://wii.nintendo.com/controller.html
it shows the controller with volume buttons, the speaker, and a revised nunchuck connector
boxing games would be awesome!
Wow... another reason to buy the Wii.
I don't care if it is $500, I'm getting it.
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hideous PS2/PS3-esque analog stick placement. ewww.
i can't imagine playing N64 games on this thing either.
This reminds me so much of the SNES controller which might I add is my fav (well the ASCII turbo version). I like it.
#7,
this is a pic of the wii classic, the article is about both the remote and the controller, we have all seen the remote, time to show the controller off...
Okay now I might actually consider getting one of these things now that I know there will be a real controller for it (and now that I know I will probably be waiting two to three years for the PS3 to drop in price down to an amount I would actually be willing to spend on a console). The ergonomics of it don't look so great though (of course when was the last time Nintendo actually considered ergonomics??? oh never). The big shoulder buttons should be angled back more and those two little shoulder buttons (at least that is what the appear to be) look like they are in a really horrible spot.
Now that this controler has been unveiled I am definitley sold on this sytem. I can not wait to see the classics library they have planned as well as if there will be aby ROM support.
"8. boxing games would be awesome!"
Holy crap I never thought about that. The chuck thing in your left the controller in your right and jab forward and up.....dude I haven't been this excited about a console since I saw Mario64. I want to preorder NOW DAMN IT! NOW NOW NOW!
Who said anything about a microphone? Where did you get that information? I don't remember that from the presentation and I don't see it at all on the Nintendo Wii website:
http://wii.nintendo.com/hardware.html
or
http://wii.nintendo.com/controller.html
THANK GOD they made an original controller. I don't intend on moving my arms for hours. This news is pretty much verifying that I'll get a Wii.
That controller is beautiful. Very shiny and stylish, much like the new DS lite. Nintendo much have fired their design teams and hired someone worth a damn.
One question though. Why is it not wireless?
OMG! I love Wii more than PS3 and 360 now!!
I am in! :D
Agreed. The PS3 and the 360 just look primitive now.
i like the two analog sticks being symmetrical. but maybe that's because i'm obsessed with katamari damacy.
This really does sound exciting. I'm diggin' it!
Did you guys see the Conference video...it doesn't look like the WiiMote is very effective. The model was struggling to control Link in Zelda and the Ubisoft 1st person shooter was painful to watch. The graphics were not that impressive and more importantly...it seemed to be very difficult to control. The guy was missing like 50% of his shots from point blank range with a shot gun.
This sadly confirms my worst fears. The WiiMote is a gimmick. It's less intuitive than a normal Joystick. I think it would be harder for the average non gamer to use it than a Joystick.
Did you see the same conference as I did? They showed how you can point to one specific icon on screen with the Wiimote, during the Zelda demonstration. If you can highlight one small icon, you can aim.
yes, this was the deciding point. I wasnt sure if i was going to purchace the wii if all they had was the remote but this is the clincher.
am i the only one to realise that these analog sticks ars ever so LOW? i mean seriously, just look at them, its gonna kill my thumb like the PSP did, except with two analogs now. these kinda sticks are painful at the end of one and a half to two hours of continuous play at the max. So, use the wiimote, and tire out your arm, or use the controler, and murder your thumb? now isnt that a hard choice?
anyways, im sold as far as the wii is concerned, im sold. just so long as i can call it revo.
NINTENDO HD?:
The Wii gameplay will be excellent based on what I've seen, but the lack of HD output may really hurt the Wii. By the time all 3 next-gen systems are in homes and have a decent library of games to compete with each other, many more people will have adopted HDTV sets (especially considering plummeting prices and HD broadcasts being the status quo by 2008). The Wii might get left behind.
PS3 Motion Controller:
Sony's PS3 motion sensing controller, although it may not be as unique as the Wii's, will probably suffice for any gamer wishing for a more immersive experience than in past consoles, but also an HD view of games & gfx.
XBOX still has... um, HD-DVD?:
Xbox is the odd-man-out here. SONY and NINTENDO should live-on due to their respective R&D investments, but Microsoft may be in danger with inferior to PS3 gfx, and inferior to Wii immersiveness, and nothing really exceptionally different to offer. Really good exclusive titles are what they will need to survive to the next-next-gen.
I've never had any interest in Nintendo consoles before, but this kind of gameplay is completely appealing to me. Now I want this more than the 360 or PS3.
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Dude.. baseball game with the Wii??! GIMME!!!! YAHOO!
so lemme get this straight, the PS3 controller steals the motion detecting idea from nintendo, while nintendo wii controller steals the button layout from the playstation controller?
I cant wait. Smash Bros and Zelda at Launch..didnt they say? oooo!
Could you imagine a live tennis match with online players with the wii remote?
Nintendo including the classic remote was a good idea, because my arms are not prepared for prolonged swinging.
#30, Did you forget that nintendo invented the analog stick. Sony is the big copy cat riding on nintendo's decisions.
Nintendo is becoming the Apple of gaming. With its great design and new ideas.
Based on the on-stage demo of the controller, there is a LOT of motion involved. It seemed more like mini-motions that resemble the real thing, mostly using wrists. Look how close the nunchuck controller is teathered to the Wiimote... there isn't even room for a full range of motion anyway. Still very cool though. I'll have carpal tunnel in no-time when I get this.
Ooops, I meant ISN'T A LOT of motion invloved.
From wii.nintendo.com:
"Controls: Intuitive control for anyone using the physical motion of the main Wii Remote, which resembles a television remote control. Up to four Wii Remotes can be connected at once using wireless Bluetooth technology. The wireless signal can be detected within 10 meters of the console. Both the Wii Remote and Nunchuk controllers include a three-axis motion sensor. The Wii Remote also includes a speaker, rumble feature and expansion port, and can be used as a pointer within 5 meters of the screen. The Wii Remote has a power switch, plus pad, A, B, Minus, Home, 1 and 2 buttons. The Nunchuk controller includes an analog control stick and C and Z buttons."
Nothing about a microphone in there. Where did that come from?
I think the wii controller should have stuck with the cube controller layout. Compacting the locations of the parts wouldn't matter but the x,y,a and b buttons are going to need some readjusting to to get used to this "standard" layout.
I'm also not too sure about the nipples. Having the analog on the left higher that the right (like the cube controller) seemed more logical in a crazy way. Still I guess there are the same number of buttons on both the wii controller and the cube controller so there is nothing stopping us from using either.
Is the wii controller backward compatible with the cube? A black controller like this would look slick on the cube!
#29 is on drugs or something. People love to compare a console thats not even out yet and that sony is over-hyping, to something that is out. Right this second XBOX 360 is superior to PS3 because *drum roll* I can play it. PS3 i cant play and thus have no basis for comparison.
Lets keep in mind that PS2 was over hyped and supposidly featured FSAA. My PS2 games look jaggy, i doubt there is FSAA at all.
As for the WII controller i guess ill be waiting till madcats releases a ps2/xbox clone. If i wanted to be 'immersed' into a game i would go out and play a real game with real people. Im not swinging my arm around and then getting too tired to play because of my arm hurting.
You could hold this controller in your left hand, and the remote in your right, and get access to the same buttons that the "analog" thing provides.
It is not wireless to keep cheap. This is not the primary controller but secondary. you wouldn't want to pay high price with a controller that you are not exactly supposed to play with (except old skool games perhaps)
You guys are all stupid and easily fall for lame gimmics. Dont you realize that the cool factor of that wiimote will wear off?! People want to relax when they go to play a game, and not have to do shoulder streches just to play an rpg which they will spend hours playing. Motion sensing (this goes for the ps3 too) is a gimmic and will never replace simple controllers that have dominated the gaming world for over 25 years.
Its been attempted before and it will fail. Its just that Nintendo is now forcing you to use it (well, that is not really the case with the introduction of the classic controller above, which looks by the way, horrible on a comfort standpoint).
Man, all you nintendo fans anger me. Im not on any camp, and dont fall for corporate shows. If nintendo offered you a dildo to use in wii zelda, all of you would happily shove it up your as* if they told you it would be an "immersive" experience. Sad.
I disagree with the novelty factor of the wii remote. You obviously haven't used on for any extended period of time. 20 Hours into Zelda and I can honestly say its one of the most comfortable controllers I've used.
In the essence of full disclosure:
I do not now own a console device. I currently have a PSP (does that count?) and, at one time, owned a Play Station 1.
Now that that's out of the way: I don't care what you say, after seeing the demos of the controller coupled with the gameplay, I think Miyamoto has come up with a truly...ahem, pardon the no longer appropriate pun...REVOLUTIONARY device.
Amazing in that the next gen Nintendo platform has been nothing more than an afterthought when put up against the PS3 and 360 (It was until the last few days for me at least).
Look, I don't consider myself a "gamer" by any stretch of the imagination, but because of this device I'm interested in gaming again.
Great graphics, sound, etc. are great (and it's probably not too terribly hard with enough horsepower), but gameplay is where the real CREATIVITY comes into play.
No, I haven't taken it for a spin, so I could be wrong. I will however definately try out this platform and its games (as opposed to the 360 and PS3 which I could give a lick about).
To the PS3/360 fanboys by the way: would it be so hard to put down your Jack in the Box late night grub and get up off your greasy, fat asses to do something remotely physical? Maybe the weed your smoking is too strong to allow for it????
Think about it....
"34. #30, Did you forget that nintendo invented the analog stick. Sony is the big copy cat riding on nintendo's decisions."
Please refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_5200
Nintendo did not invent the analog joystick, nor did sony steal it. The sega saturn had an analog joystick available for that system, as well as the PC and other systems. ENOUGH WITH THIS BULLSH*T. You guys are just pissed off that Sony is leading the console wars currently. But dont make sh*t up just to shoot them down. Come up with actual arguments to attack them, and mabybe most of us will take you guys seriously.
You sound like an angry little troll who didn't get a Wii (or possibly PS3) when they were released.
Get over it princess!
#41 -
have you considered that everyone who's actually used the system has said that they start with wide crazy motions, but within a few minutes settle down to very small hand/wrist movements?
Of course they used wild arm motions on stage - they're showing it off, and the best way to do that is to over-exaggerate any motions they make.
Petty comments from close minded people who make generalized statements about another group of people because of a preference that has no bearing on day to day life whatsoever "anger me".
Wow r3dir, you seem so certain! Good to know there are down to earth people out there to announce these prophecies.
Then again I guess we always need balance...
Tell you what, why don't we set up a list of people that know it will fail and those that have some confidence that it will take off.
Sure it will be a phenomenon but Nintendo are offering the wiimote as an option! If you want a more standard gameplay, use the wii-controller or the cube controller. COnsidering all wii's will ship with at least 1 wiimote I have a feeling it will become more mainstream.
Oh well, once the cool factor wears off I'm sure MS will have released some kind of motion sensing option for the XBox 360.
I like how the old-school controller looks like the SNES ones used to, only I'm not sure what the inner-two shoulder buttons are for. I'm also not that impressed that they put the two analogue sticks in the middle. It shouldn't need a d-pad on the left, NES games play fine with an analogue stick in Animal Crossing.
Hopefully it's around the same size as the SNES too, pity about it not being wireless... or maybe it is and is charging via a cable?
They also haven't mentioned what sort of power supply the remote uses. :(
Anyway, I'm still looking forwards to giving it a proper go.
i'm just like the McD commercial: I'm loving it !
the controller looks real fly and comfortable to use, so i have to give props to nintendo for designing this thing of beauty :D and i'm certainly gonna buy it
damn, all current-gen consoles rock... UNFORTUNATELLY all have a different twist to them. makes you wanna buy them all. its like PSP vs NDS but on a much larger scale (a lot of ppl arent into portable gaming systems).
the ps3 is definatelly way too expensive (the 60gb bundle is 2x the money you spend on a x360 core pack) - fuck blu-ray. the 20gb bundle is STILL 2x the price of a nintendo wii! sony pissed me off big time!
another aspect of the nintendo wii is: HOW WELL will it worked with widescreen HDTV? hdtv sets normally distort the 480p image to fill the WHOLE screen...
the wii JOYPAD looks very cheap... and the remote resembles a dildo with a wired remote for vibration settings (i wonder if the jap devs were watching JAPANESE PRoN MOVIES too often?!?!?!?)
i dont know who'll win, but it seems as M$ rushing the x360 to market... was a BAD IDEA, well... time will tell (the war is all over CONTROL CONCEPTS now).
Too many controller options!
1) wiimote
2) wiimote + nunchucku
3) wiimote + classic configuration
4) wired gamecube controllers (see 4 ports)
5) Gamecube wavebird
6) Wiimote + Gun shell
7) DK Bongos
Am I forgetting anything else?
Wiimote + steering wheel shell. ;)
But that's not really another control device, nor is the light gun shell - they just house the Wiimote.
To a discussion a few posts earlier:
The Saturn analog controller that came with Nights was made in response to the proposed Nintendo 64's controller (or Ultra 64 at that time.)
It wasn't even first released until a month after the N64 came out in Japan.
I'm loving all these people saying that they're worried about their arms hurting when using the wii controller..
how lazy are you?! next you'll be complaining it doesn't come with a beverage holder or a microwave..
and as far as i can tell the 'classic' controller is not being marketed as a true alternative to the remote but as an optional (nintendo have said the gcube controller will plug right in) peripheral to play 'classic' games. For the majority of wii games the remote will be compulsory
also to those that do not want to move..
to me.. nintendo wasn't on my list of next gen consoles to buy.. but the more i read about the immersiveness, the more i love it..
also, it is in my opinion that what nintendo is doing (in regards to the wii remote) is changing us for the better... instead of just getting fatter and lazier sitting on our arses playing games, we're brought into the action and moving on our feet..
anyone see that news report on the guy that lost 100lbs playing dance revolution? the wii is a revolution in that it tries to reverse the previous history of video games and ideaology by making the player move with the game..
anywho.. just my .02..
go wii! i'll be pre-ordering for sure!! plus, it sounds like they will be including a sega genesis emulator and a 'virtual emulator' environment (sounds like a dashboard type enviro).. hmmm..
its my prediction that the wii becomes the top modable/hackable next gen console.. (no bluray or hd-dvd to worry about.. yes, xbox 360 can be hacked via firmware, but who knows w/the wii)..
peace
The Wiimote is doing what the Playstation 3 and the Xbox 360 haven't been able to effectively do: cause excitement and controversy in the gaming industry. The Nintendo Wii is the only system that gamers, and, more importantly non-gamers, are very curious about. When's the last time you got excited about something being innovative in the gaming industry? The PS3 and the 360 are both doing the same thing: upping the horsepower and graphical ability on their systems. Sony is now taking initiative and copying Nintendo's idea, but the result still isn't the same. It's clearly a ploy to try and stay on the same level as the Wii intuitively, because otherwise Nintendo would have left them in the dust. According to numerous people who have tried both controllers, however, it still feels like a copy (I will repost with specific website links and people's comments, I don't have access to them right now because I'm at school and most of them are blocked). Nintendo is putting Sony under pressure with their remote, as well as making Sony put themselves under pressure. It is highly unlikely that they (Sony) had any plans of releasing a wireless controller out of the box. Even with their release of it at E3, the effect of the controller wasn't that great. This is supposed to be a post about the Wii Classic Controller, however, so I'll get back to that. The controller was most definetly a good idea as it is likely that the Wiimote will not be for everyone. The controller disappointed me at the same time, however, because it showed weakness in Nintendo (depending on how you look at it). On the one side, you could see it as Nintendo being scared that the Wiimote wouldn't be successful, so they gave another option so that gamers wouldn't have to use Gamecube controllers on a brand new system if they didn't want to use the Wiimote. On the other side, however, you could see it as Nintendo being intelligent and expanding the creativity of their system, as well as making an alternate option for users of the Virtual Console who wish to use a more comfortable controller (though, to be honest, that controller looks anything but comfortable...good idea, bad design). I'm not exactly sure what Nintendo's getting at, however, considering the fact that this controller plugs into the bottom of the Wiimote (I'll get a link to that image also, once I get home). Maybe it could plug into that mystery flap on the sude of the Wii, or has an extension chord for the controller similar to the Xbox controller that could plug into one of the Gamecube jacks? Who knows? Guess we'll have to wait and see...
C: "Too many controller options!"
I don't think so. Nintendo doesn't expect you to buy NEW Game Cube controllers - you can use the ones you have (maybe will save some money on buying the Wii Classic). And Wii remote will be included so it all OK.
Lol! r3dir u had a dildo up ur A$$ who told u to stick it up there in the 1st place lol. now for my point of view to you r3ding on dick! the wiimote is intuitive and thats why sony copied them by adding motion sensing. the classic controller is great addition to the controller im basin this on the fact that this controller will be mostly played on retro games. and the wii will support wavebird controllers so for this is what im expecting that wii games will setup an option in the controller menu to switch from the wiimote to the regular controller, gamers are use to just incase ur not comfortable with this action. nintendo has set the bar to a new standard back then and are on the verge of doing it again dont be surprised when u see nintendo on top as the dominator it once use to be. it looks like a new era has opened up and nintendo is finally bringing out the big guns it once took out in the 1984-1995 era GAMEPLAY AND INNOVATION!!! GO NINTENDO! IM GETTING MYSELF A WII! and im damned proud of it!
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looks to me like the only thing sony is winning is a consumerwhore fanbase
so what controller would you use for GC?
is it the classic, or can you use the original GC controllers?
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parden my french but dam why do you dumbasses keep going on about Cool factors and shit about the wii, your just pissed #1 because nintendo fans are having way more fun on a system that doesnt have as much power as the ps3 or xbox360 #2 if and when consoles get into multiplayer games via the internet your not going to be having any fun geting creamed by even a newb on a wii-mote on any shoot-em-up and #3 your pissed because your sytems didnt come out with it first and you know that if they dont copy nintendo or make somthing new thats as entertaining/easy then they will slowly dwendly out of buisness, especially after nintendo pushes gyroscopes with alot of power... personally im a computer gamer and i dont really like how console has been slowly taking over the gaming world simply because prices but ive always been a nintendo fan and the only reason why i even liked ps2 a little bit was because it was the only system had buduki tenkichi...simply put, your just hoping that the wii/nintendo will die off so everyone will be misrable using only their thumbs to look around trying to shoot people...heh how fun is that
the classic controller is the bomb