A couple of years ago this would have sounded crazy, but
SanDisk, which is probably best known for flash drives and memory cards, just put out one of the best MP3 players on the market. Yeah, I know, I'm just as surprised as you are, but after spending a few weeks with the new 4GB Sansa e260, part of SanDisk's new Sansa e200 series, I'm going to be sorry to send this one back. The e260 isn't without its faults, but if you're looking for a solid alternative to the iPod, and haven't been so fired up by the latest models from
Creative,
Samsung, et al. (or are still in
mourning for Rio), then you should do yourself a favor and check this one out. Or at least keep reading the rest of this review.
Design
Until now SanDisk's Sansa line has aimed squarely for the low-end of the market, with a succession of clunky, uninspired, no-frills flash-based players designed to appeal to budget-conscious consumers. They've still got some cheapies in their line up, but the e200 series signals a new direction for the Sansa line. For starters, SanDisk doesn't deny that they're going straight after the nano with this one. The e260's design reminiscent of the nano, right down to the glossy black finish and the scroll wheel. It's also just about the same length and width as the nano (3.5-inches by 1.74-inches vs. the nano's 3.5-inches by 1.6-inches), but the e260 is nearly twice as thick (0.52-inches vs. 0.27-inches). Hardly a deal killer when you're talking about gadgets that are this small -- unless you absolutely have to have the thinnest player around, that is.
Yes, the players in the e200 series have scroll wheels -- no touch-sensitive pads here -- but this is a mechanical scroll wheel reminiscent of the wheel on the original 1G iPod (which, for whatever reason, still has a lot of fans). The tactility of the mechanical wheel is nice, and it even glows blue when you're using it (which is also a nice, albeit pointless, touch). The wheel itself is plasticky and feels like the only part of the player that won't be able to stand up to a little wear and tear (not that I've experienced any problems with it so far).

The glossy black finish on the front of the player is most definitely a fingerprint magnet, but it also proved to be more resistant to scratching than the casing on the iPod nano (though not completely impervious, I did notice a couple of small scuffs after normal use). The back of the player is made out of Liquidmetal, a special alloy that is said to be harder and more elastic than similar alloys of titanium or aluminum. We don't really have the equipment here at Engadget HQ to evaluate their claims, but the back of the e260 did emerge from two weeks of testing completely unscathed.

There are six buttons on the front of the player, four surrounding the scroll wheel (Up/Play/Pause, Right/Forward, Left/Previous/Rewind, and Down/Submenu), a center Select Button, and a power button which confusingly also doubles as a main menu button (instead of opening a submenu it takes you all the way back the main page of the UI). Having the power button pull double-duty as a menu button is probably a mistake; I know I've been trained to resist pressing any button with the universal power symbol on it unless I want to turn something on or off, and several times I've switched off the player when I actually wanted to exit to the main menu. The Play/Pause button is also awkwardly placed along the top of the scroll wheel where it can be a little difficult to press; SanDisk should have put it on the bottom like with the iPod or made the button larger. There are two additional controls on the player, a Hold switch along the top next to the headphone jack and a dedicated Record button for voice recordings.
Display
The display on the e260 is excellent. It's very bright, crisp, and easy to read, and while it's not very large, it is a smidge bigger than the display found on the nano (1.8-inches vs 1.5-inches). The e260's tiny screen makes you wonder why SanDisk even bothered adding (limited) support for video playback, but I'm not really complaining, since it's nice to have the option.
User Interface
We all know how bad it can get, but the user interface on the e260 is surprisingly good. The main menu is an icon-based list of options (Music, FM Radio, Photo, Settings, Voice, and Video) and navigating sub-menus is fairly straightforward. It takes a little while to catch some of the tricks, but the UI itself is nice and snappy; there's absolutely no sluggishness at all.
Pressing the Submenu button (the one below the scroll wheel) when you're listening to music takes you into menu where you can find options to Repeat, Shuffle, EQ, Rate This Song, Scan Through Song, Add Song to Go List, and Back to Music List. Volume is adjusted by turning the scroll wheel. Pressing the center Select Button while you're listening to a song toggles the display between the amount of time the song has left, a graphic EQ, album art, and a listing for whatever song is next up in the queue.
Sync and File TransferPoor software integration has been the downfall of many a promising MP3 player. I was a little nervous about well the e200 would fare going into this review, and the results here are a mixed bag.
First, the good news: the e200 supports USB mass storage, so if you want you can just drag-and-drop your tunes onto the player (for smaller capacity players, drag-and-drop is usually the quickiest and easiest way to handle transfers). These transfers were a snap; I was able copy over 100 MP3s (about 400MB) in 2 minutes and 21 seconds.
Here's the not-so-good news: if you want to take advantage of the e200's PlaysForSure support and listen to DRM'd music, including those of subscription-based services like Napster To Go, Yahoo Music Unlimited, and Rhapsody To Go, you're in for some frustration. I tested the e260 with Rhapsody To Go and found that player-software integration still has some kinks to be worked out.
To be fair, most of the time everything worked perfectly fine. I was able to transfer DRM'd Rhapsody To Go tracks over to the player with minimal effort -- the only annoyance was that it would take about seven minutes to transfer 100 tracks over to the player, three times longer than it would during a straight drag-and-drop. That extra time isn't the end of the world, but it took upwards of an hour to fill up a 4GB Sansa e260 with DRM'd music. And the record industry wonders why consumers loathe DRM?
The extra time transfers would take is something I could more or less live with, but I experienced a couple of hiccups during the time I was testing the e200. One day I switched on the player to discover that all of my attempts to play Rhapsody To Go tracks were met with a message telling me that I needed to synchronize the player, something that I had just done the day before, and which in theory I should only need to do every 30 days at most. A second sync solved the problem, but then a few days later the Rhapsody client stopped recognizing the e260 altogether, something which made song transfers completely impossible. Installing the latest build of the Rhapsody client seemed to solve the problem, but it's little frustrations like these that hold back services otherwise promising products like Rhapsody To Go and the e260.
MediaThese days pretty much every digital audio player with a decently-sized color screen has some sort of digital photo viewer, and the e200-series is no exception. It's also nothing extraordinary, and handles all the usual biz: thumbnails, slideshows, etc. The e260's ability to handle video stands in contrast to the iPod nano, but playback is limited to 15 fps and all videos have to be converted using SanDisk's bundled app before transfer. It's not worth going to a lot of trouble just to watch something on such a miniscule screen, but like I said before, it's sort of a nice frill to have.
PricingSanDisk is certainly trying to make it an attractive proposition by pricing these things competitively versus the iPod nano, with the 2GB e250 selling for $179, the 4GB e260 going for $229, and the 6GB e270 priced at $279. Don't ask me why they didn't pick names that were more indicative of each player's capacity, like e220, e240, or e260).
Conclusion
It ain't perfect, but the e260 is a solid competitor to the iPod nano, and if forced to choose between the two, I'd pick the Sansa. With a cheaper price, larger screen, integrated FM tuner, better battery life (twenty hours to the nano's fourteen -- plus the e260's battery is more easily replaced), a MicroSD expansion card slot, and a solid user interface, the e260 gets a lot more right than it gets wrong. That isn't to say that there are some issues that need improvement -- the e260's buttons could be a lot better, its startup time could be a little shorter, and its PlaysForSure integration isn't seamless (which isn't entirely SanDisk's fault - surely Microsoft shoulders plenty of blame here as well) -- but overall the e260's finer points outweigh its defects.
Is there a bookmark feature on the 6gb Sansa?
i have sansa e250 show this message " LOAD MAIN IMAGE FAILED SWITCH TO RECOVERY MODE " and i dont
somebody help me please
mjdalia@hotmail.com
thanks
when i plug in my sansa e260 to my computer doesn't recognize the player it just charges but icannot do anything its like i had not plug in anything can someone please tell me what to do
isabelrbd45@hotmail.com
i have the exact same problem...if anyone has answered you please let me know teh reply,.
I bought both Sansa c250 2G and sansa e270 6G - Nano iPods look cool and sexy so Sansas. I like the standout Sansations’ built-in features that distinguish the Sansa from the nano iPod -
**Play any format
**Expandable Memory Slot
**Up to 20 hours and removable battery
**Scratch resistance metal black
**Choose where to get music
**FM tuner with recorder (Radio recording)
**1.8 inche color screen (64,000 colors)
**Built-in voice recorder (useful for meeting, conference call, conversation and lecture recording)
**Lower prices but more features
Sansa e270 6G is now on sale $130-$140
On Gosale.com
$129.99 + $6.95 shipping = $136.94
On Ebay
$139.99 + $15.00 shipping = $154.99
On Amazon: Last week deal
$136.94 - $30 (with new Amazon Visa card) = $106.94
At first, I have to say I loved this thing. It was my most favorite thing in the world when my parents got it for me at Christmas. But now --
It just plain blows.
So many things are wrong with it, and I didn't even do anything to it AT ALL. It was in perfect condition (it still is, but it's just fucking retarded), and then everything went wrong on it. First, what happened to my brother was it kept freezing up on him. He would try to turn the volume up and it would freeze and just sit there. You couldn't turn it off or anything - you just had to wait for it to unfreeze.
Second, (God I don't even know the order of which these things happened 'cause so much shit is wrong), when I put songs on there from my computer, some wouldn't show up. They were MP3 format and everything, perfectly fine songs, but they would just *disappear*. Went through every song on there and didn't stumble across the ones that had supposedly been 'lost'. Tried putting them back on, and it claimed they were already there on the MP3 player. *Stupid, much?*
Third, The songs got ALL screwed up because I 'got a virus' on it. Just out of nowhere, 3 folders popped up in the MUSIC folder from my computer and they were really weird names. Also, it said that the folders were made in the 80s or 90s, and obviously MP3 players didn't EXIST in the 80s. Sure, it could've been a song that I had on there that was made in the 80s, but I doubt it. It would've attacked my whole computer by that point, and my computer is fine. -_-U
Lastly, I can't even get the folder to pop up now. I have it plugged into my computer, and the mp3 player claims that it's plugged in, but the computer isn't showing it. I refreshed my "My Computer" at least 100 times trying to get it to pop up, and nothing would. Tried unplugging it and plugging it back in, from the USB port and from the mp3 player, and its still nothing. And, my songs are all screwed up. It isn't a major problem, but when I go to listen to my Linkin Park, it says that it's playing "No More Sorrow Live", lets say, and it plays The Beatles. It's fucking dumb.
So I don't see why everyone else is giving it a GREAT review. I would rather have a fucking Ipod that this useless piece of shit.
And also, to the person who said there's no custom EQ, yeah, there is. If you're listening to a song, hit the bottom button and go to Music EQ, and go to custom. There, problem solved. But I would really like to have my problems solved. -____-
Does the Sansa work with itunes??????
Does this work with itunes?????? I haven't got an answer yet... plzz help me!!!!
I've been using windows media player 10 to rip cds, and have been putting them on the player by drag and drop. However, I got a new computer a week or two ago with windows media player 11, and I CAN NOT get my player to show the album art, no matter which way I put the cds on. (I've tried using the rhapsody client and the windows media player sync) It shows the album art in windows media player, but it dissapears ounce I transfer.
Note: I have the 8gb "rhapsody" version of this player, If that factors into it.
A few more questions:
1.How much does a replacement battery cost?
2.Can you rip dvds to the player?
3.Where can you download the sandisk media converter? My new computer doesnt seem to be able to read the mini-disk that was included with the player.
Overall, this has been a great player with very little problems, a much better buy then any ipod.
To add my comments to the end of a very long list. I've got both this player and a Nano. There's no comparison. The Nano is a lot stronger, especially when the whole iTunes Store comes into play.
However, as the review states - this device is a lot better than most. And crucially, a lot better than my phone.
The saving grace has been a little bit of software called 'The Filter' which can automatically fill the device with new playlists every day. You should check it out at http://www.thefilter.com
For those that have issues with the storage space (2GB, 4GB, etc): the player comes with preset Sansa Radio stations( in addition to FM radio). You have to delete those radio stations (which take up almost half of space your player will hold). The only way I was able to delete them so far was through the Best Buy Digital Music store. I couldn't figure out how to do it through WMP.
Hi, interesting comments here regarding Sansa e260. I just bought one. All seemed ok until now. I keep loosing sound in the right ear phone. I have to jump to the next track to get stereo sound back.It happens on many unrelated songs. Anyone know what the hell is the cause of this?
Hi Damian,
The same is happening to me... Have you got anywhere with this problem yet?
I sold my 30gb iPod video for a 8gb Sansa + a 2gb microSD card (and got some change back). I absolutely hate proprietary software. With the Sansa I can just copy music and listen to it right there. Id rather have something to watch, although its funny since it turns the videos into .mov files which are Quicktime, which is owned by Apple.
Apple iPods suck.
I NEEEEED help.....when i put songs on it there all unkown, but they have been on it before......i am afraid to format it, because i have formated it about 6 times already, because it keeps....doing this.
If anyone else has had this problem, please contact me, and if you can POSSIBLY help me....
MY LIFE depends on music, and i like my sansa, but allse it has given me is TROUBLE.
Yea, that isn't anything with the player itself. You need to change some information with the music file. Simply right click on the songs in question and go into properties. Click on the summary tab at the top and left click on the text box after artist and you should be able to change the name of the artist.
Hope that helps.
my daughter has a e260 and i was upset that i couldnt get it to work with itunes! but i figured out how! with no extra software needed.. drag and drop!
I bought both of my kids the 6GB version for Christmas 2006 and they love them. Or at least they did right up to the point that the headphone socket fails. My kids, like most kids, walk around with the things in their pockets and I guess the strain this puts on the headphone socket just wrecks them. Whatever the reason the headphone socket in these devices is clearly too frail for the job that they are sold to do and fails within a few months. I understand that headphone sockest is a weak link in all of these small mp3 players and it's a shame that someone hasn't come up with a fix. I now have another unit that is probably going back to the maker for replacement.
this piece of crap pisses me off with the "bad track" I'm wondering if I should smash the piece of shit in the floor or get my money back...I'm guessing get my money back fuck this piece of ungodly crap and everyone who made this.bye.
MY PLAYER SAYZ LOAD MAIN IMAGE FAILED SWITCH 2 RECOVERY MODE DOES ANY ONE KNOW HOW I MAKE IT WORK AGAIN
i need help! i got one song on my sansa (i use limewire) and it changed every picture for every song! what do i do?
thanks your review helped alot. i love my sansa :)
Some useful little programs for dealing with e200 series play-lists.
Check out the forum at this address:
http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=537
Look for the following download links -
m3u2pla_20070107.zip = *.m3u to *.plp converter
PLAme v1.0.zip = e200 series playlist builder
Brilliant!
Hey!
I got my e260 today. (140$ on sale 80 bucks off) And I really like how slick it is.
However, I haven't been able to upload songs.
Normally, with my old MP3, I'd plug into the USB and an 'e drive' removable disc would come up in MY COMPUTER. And I could open it and just drag songs from Limewire and iTunes from there.
But with the Sansa, that didn't work. It wouldn't show up as a removable disc.
Something I'm missing?
Any ideas?
Thanks,
♥nico
try changing the usb connection mode to msc (mass storage class) through settings > usb mode > msc
i cant figure out how to delete music?????????? ive had mine 4 a year and cant figure it out
how to delete and add songs:
1. settings > usb mode > msc
2. connect your sansa to a computer
3. find + open the folder containing the files for your sansa (under "devices with removable storage" under "my computer" in windows xp
4. make sure you can see hidden files (in windows xp: tools > folder options... > view (tab) > show hidden files and folders > ok
5. find where you put your music files (check "MUSIC"
6. find the song, select it, and delete
7. voila
My wife and I each bought the e260 and have encountered a strange problem with them. After letting the 260 play through a particular album, the right channel always seem to stop working at the same song and it will slowly fade back after 15-25 seconds. If I resstart the song, it'll play without a problem. This happens on both units but at different songs and albums. Any help? Also, the radio works poorly on the 260. I had a cheap Truly unit which worked much better. The graphic equalizer introduces distrotion and/or noise too. Overall, I'm not a happy camper.
I call the Sanasa e260 4.0 GB my music machine, which indeed it is as I use it for music only. This is a great player. The FM radio is good and the CD's I've loaded in sound just marvelous. If you like live, dynamic audio this player will give to you, only I suggest you get other headphones than the one supplied. I have white Koss phones ($20) and this combination just sounds absolutely thrilling. Never mind iPod, this machine will put it to shmae.
i cant figure out how to record nothing into the external memory, i mean the micro sd card, how can i get songs and videos into it
WOW!!! Interesting reading. I was in the Apple Store just yesterday and priciey pricey, pricey. And no radio, now come on. Give me a break. I paid $119 for mine a year ago and now WalMart sells it for $99. Almost bought another one, but now I find out through y'all that I can increase storage. At any rate, I have never had an issue with it. Still works just fine and I have even dropped it several times and on concrete. I ride my motorcycle with it, I run with it, I do everything with it. Definitely preferred it over ipod for the money and the features. Not interested in watching videos on nothing but a TV. So be that as it may, I am happy with my purchase and would purchase another one. Go Sansa I ain't mad atcha !!!
I used Windows Media Player to add my songs to my Sansa 4gb and I don't think im able to delte the songs off my Sansa. Does anyone know how to do this if its possible.
My Sansa Is Awesome. I Can't Get My Computer To Read It Though. I Have Had Mine E260 For 5 Months And It Works Fine, Even With ITunes.
I bougth this thing about a month ago and as some of you on here it freezes on me. I will go to a song or a video file and it just freezes and the power button doesn't work and neither does hooking it up to a computer. I am also having the same problems with it reading the player sometimes. When it works it's great but i would not buy another one. I absolutly hate unreliable electronics and this is one of them.
UNRELIABLE as with most electronics these days. I bougtht this thing about a month ago and as with some of you on here it freezes on me. I will go to a song or a video file and it just freezes and the power button doesn't work and neither does hooking it up to a computer so you end up waiting 15 hours for the battery to give out and restart it again. I am also having the same problems with it reading the player sometimes when trying to sync songs. When it works it's great but i would not buy another one. I absolutly hate unreliable electronics and this is one of them.
This Sansa is head and shoulders above the Nano.
Ipod owners are just trying to justify the crazy price they pay for their devices by bad mouthing anything different.
I am a Rio fan whose Karma recently died.
I purchased this Sansa and placed Rockbox on it.
This player has way more features and functions than an ipod does. Plus on the go playlisting and a better GUI.
Plus you are not locked into Itunes, which anyone can tell you is a process hog and will slow down any PC or Mac. itunes helper anyone?
This player works with subscription services and has voice and FM recording.
No brainer.
Ipod fans need to stick to their overpriced junk and let the real nerds/geeks live with their better product.
Woot has these today, 12/3/07 for $49 (refurbished). This is a great buy for anyone looking at the 4gb e260.
I have had my Sansa 6 GB for about a year now. I couldn't be happier with it. I've tried the Ipod and a few others but the Sansa is a far Superior device. Like some of you have mentioned, you can't beat the subscription service capabilities. For $15 per month I have full access to the entire music library on Rhapsody. I can download thousands of songs, delete them all and download thousands more next month. All this for $15 per month. I have read that many of you have issues creatng playlists. I have never tried creating them directly in the unit but via the Rhapsody interface, which I think is one of the best out there, I can create mutiple playlists without having the songs duplicated. I can also download Rhapsody channels which are a preset grouping of songs. The channels and playlists will automatically update when I plug the unit into the USB port. I have easily added pictures and videos to the unit, but I mainly use the Sansa for music. I have dropped and stepped on the unit and it is still going strong. The battery life is pretty impressive. I like the unit so much that I will be buying another one soon for my wife. As far as the smaller sized units go, I think its the best on the market so far. I am currently comparing the Sansa View against the new smaller Zune.
The Sansa 200 series MP3 players won't play while charging but there is trick to get this working. Just insert the USB connector into the Sansa MP3 player but barely so and you will notice that the screen lits up and the battery sign shows it is charging. Music/Video/Radio won't stop and you CAN listen to Sansa MP3 while charging !
Yo, my friend got 1 its awesume, i am think of buying 1... i just want something w/ video and pics
How does the unit recognize the memory in the microSD slot? I want to get this unit and use the 2 GB microSD card i have in my LG phone. I'm just wondering if it shows up on the player as two different POOLS or memory ? or just one? Would it be the same for windows with it giving the device two separate drive letters?
I just got the e260 as a gift and I must say, as a previous iPod Nano owner, it is the most comfortable, user friendly portable music device I've ever laid my hands on.
how do you delete the files that were already put on the player?
You know what I find really funny?
Most of you people are only having problems due to laziness.
I had a good laugh reading all the comments.
The Sansa e200 is a quality machine, and if you broke it, it's because you did something to it, or you left it laying around and somebody else did something to it. They don't just up and break.
If you need a firmware update, go get the god damn firmware update; don't sit there complaining about how badly it sucked when they tell you right in the manual, you're going to need updates. Stop being such nitpickers and use the recommended program, Windows Media Player, or just drag and drop all your files onto it, which is actually easier because you can make your own folders and stick what you want in them.
No, it's not perfect, but if people weren't so lazy, they wouldn't have problems. Also, to the people complaining there are files that they cant delete, you need to either format it, or go into the MSC USB Mode, go to My Computer, right click on the icon for the player, click Properties, click the tab labelled Tools, click the button that says "Check Errors Now", check both boxes, and start. Your player should be normal after that.
so I got to downloading music. Finally. But then when I got to downloading too many songs the Refresh Database screen froze at a certain place. Another thing is the songs that froze it were by the same artist. I wonder if that had anything to do with it.
i got my sansa e260 a year ago, and im absolutely in love with it xD
however i dropped it a few days ago (nothing much, just 2 feet or so onto carpet) and now there's something wrong with the display. The startup screen and main menu are extremely grainy, and don't even ASK about photo and video.
i notice its mostly black backgrounds that are affected...theyve got tiny dark blue markings all over (like snow on a TV screen)
has this happened to anyone before? HELP!
i got my sansa e260 a year ago, and im absolutely in love with it xD
however i dropped it a few days ago (nothing much, just 2 feet or so onto carpet) and now there's something wrong with the display. The startup screen and main menu are extremely grainy, and don't even ASK about photo and video.
i notice its mostly black backgrounds that are affected...theyve got tiny dark blue markings all over (like snow on a TV screen)
has this happened to anyone before? HELP!
I ordered one of these little buggers from Amazon.com to replace my iPod Mini 4 GB (which will not work with my new computer). I buy it because I want to be able to use the UMS mode to just drag and drop the MP3 files into its music folder. I have no interest in playlists or album art, so have no use for WMP 11.
I've read both good and bad about it. I hope it's a good player and doesn't give me the troubles I've seen listed here. I will certainly post back here with my opinion of the player, good or bad.
I've had mine for about 2 days now & it's great. I owned another MP3 player years ago & hated it, hard to use & once I did get it working it only said "track 1" etc. no song names or anything, I took it back after about 2 hours of owning it. This is a HUGE improvement, I also love the extras it has, FM tuner, plays videos & can show pictures, seriously, I don't think you can go wrong with this unit. If you're not so tech savy & are looking for a good looking, easy to use MP3 player go with this one, you won't be sorry.