Study finds e-voting machines short on security
posted June 28th 2006 10:49AM
A recent report from the Task Force on Voting System Security, at
posted June 28th 2006 10:49AM
A recent report from the Task Force on Voting System Security, at
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the blue screen of democracy...
Our elections are so rigged and this technology was built simply to make rigging easier. Doesn't anyone get that?
I certainly get it!
It has been obvious that our elections have been totally rigged ever since the aliens landed at Roswell, who then helped to fake the Moon landing.
But were do we truely place the blame? Is it the Loch Ness Monster's fault for calling the aliens and telling them were we are, or perhaps it is Bigfoots fault for causing them to crash by hurling poop at their wind sheild? It's a tough call.
That tin foil hat isn't doing you much good. Although it does make you easier to avoid.
I never understood why paper ballots weren't good enough? Oh, wait...that was before Florida in 2000. Now the same people (party?) are angry about getting what they asked for.
It's not the method, it's the results that keep making you nuts...well, more nuts.
Read, stay educated and question everything!!
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/
At this point, Republicans are either Millionaires or Fools!
Its not a slam. Just think about it. It'll come to ya ;^)...
The community in Wisconsin that I live in uses paper ballots that are scanned by an optical reader. The things are as close to perfect as could possibly want. If you're too stupid to fill out the ballot correctly, the machine rejects it, the poll worker destroys it and you complete another one the right way. Should the machines malfunction or crash, you have the original ballots to count from manually. In the 20 or so years that we have been using this method, we have had ZERO problems....no hanging chads, no lost memory issues...nothing. It's also one of, if not the lowest cost method for voting and probably the simpliest.
Why do they even hold elections? First of all, everyone says the US is a democracy. It's NOT. It's a republic; if it were a democracy we would vote every day, but we elect reps to vote for us. But back to the point, why do we hold them? We know that the press can CHANGE the results of the the election because that's how bush was elected. This country is so corrupt, If a monkey wanted to become president with the connections bush has, the monkey would win over roosevelt.
which is why anarchism is clearly better. and that's a pretty good question - why do republics call themselves democracies?
I wish we could vote over the internet....
Pardon the homophone, my fingers got ahead of me.
Remember when the Diebold exec said that he'd see to it personally that Bush won?
hahaha, good times... if you haven't noticed
already (and it looks like the majority of you have) we're fux0rd on the vote. We elect reps that vote against our wishes and our voting system for the highest office is mostly unaccountable, just like the
winner of said vote.No sense getting your panties in a bunch about this. It's been out of our hands since before many of us were born if not longer. The best thing you can do for yourself is stay calm and stick to the shadows. Laws only affect people that can be seen.
The article by Robert Kennedy in the latest Rolling Stone does make a good case that the Diebold machines are screwed and so is the country.
Mathematicians agree that it's rather easy to tell when an election has been "rigged." If the exit polls are dramatically different than the vote counts reported by the election officials something is very wrong.
But hey, that's just "crazy talk" because Statistics is just a "theory."
That's what they get for using Windows :D
You can't get tin foil anymore. My hat is made of aluminum. http://www.oilempire.us/elections.html
Exit polls are frequently different from the actual vote counts for a variety of reasons, the primary ones being that people lie to the exit pollers, and the fact that exit pollers are frequently low paid and ill-trained, leading to lots of selection bias (e.g. exit poll workers approach people who look friendly or attractive, or who are of the same age, race, etc.)
So if the exit polls differ from the vote count, it's the poll that's wrong, not the vote count.
Flawed technology for a flawed system.
(off topic rant)
It's time to be rid of the electoral college, which is based on the assumption that slaves are recognized as 3/5 of a person for legal purposes (3/5 compromise). Up until the Civil War, a state's electoral votes were calculated as...
[Free people (Slaves * 3/5)] / Number of people per representative
= in national elections, slave owning states got a boost by allowing white people to vote in a sort of proxy for slaves.
The Media elected Bush? That's fresh. Why did they do that, so they could use him as their whipping boy? Paper punchcard ballots worked great, until somebody didn't like the results and decided to change the rules regarding the way they counted the votes. (After the fact mind you, and nobody seemed to care) So we spent billions to fix it, and they are still not happy.
we are a constitutional republic. democracy is wildly flung around because is sounds warm and fuzzy. republic reminds us of ancient rome and those meanies chasing skywalker. in truth no pure democracy can ever exist nor should it. can you imagine the decisions made because of mob rule in this day and age... with all the "media". we democratically choose our leaders and occasionally check a box on a local issue. the electoral college protects states with less numbers from being bullied by those with greater numbers. if this system is no good then we need to go further and also get rid of u.s. senators... as there are only 2 per state no matter what the population. conversly u.s. "representatives" are aptly named... they represent the voters according to population.
sometimes we forget its the "united" "states" that make up this country. we will never abolish statehood for the "common good" and decisions left to the fleeting emotions of the public would be catastophic.
is there a country that at this moment has all its decisions made by the public?
btw why not let amex or visa just mail us a "vote card" and we can jam it into the atm on our way to birth/school/work/deasth?
Electronic voting machines have opened the door for massive fraud.
The most undeniable sign of fraud in 2004 was a HUGE discrepancy between election results and exit polls. The validity of election results in Third World countries is judged by their agreement with exit polls. The 2004 US election did not pass this test meant for corrupt Third World nations.
Prior to electronic voting machines, thousands of votes might be stolen in an election. Today millions of votes can be stolen.