Meta,
A visit to the Engadget store...
By Peter Rojas 
posted Jul 10th 2006 4:20PM
posted Jul 10th 2006 4:20PM
WATCH - Storefront
WATCH - Denial
Meta,
posted Jul 10th 2006 4:20PM
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hey guys, you forgot to put the engadget.com/videos/ part in the second video. nice though
Pat
His name is cooler because he has THREE bars.
RAISE THE BAR.
you need to fix your second link to read:
http://stadium.weblogsinc.com/engadget/videos/engadget_store_denial.avi
i say SUE! lol just for saying he doesn't know anything about this site. oh and ur denial video is linked wrong,
here it is incase someone cant figure it out.
http://stadium.weblogsinc.com/engadget/videos/engadget_store_denial.avi
Yeah, the second link's broken :)
http://engadget.com/videos/engadget_store_denial.avi
I am going to go make a arcade called joystiq now :).
His name is cooler because he has THREE bars.
RAISE THE BAR.
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Actually Pip, the sign sports only two, just like the real engadget. You're seeing the backlit border.
I was quite entertained by the giant argument over whether that picture was Photoshopped or not last time. All the people claiming to be Photoshop experts and explaining exactly why the light behind the letters is OBVIOUSLY 'SHOPPED and so on. Hooray Internet.
Well done Jereme! Too bad your enthusiasm didn't exactly find much reciprocation ity with the sales-clerk, but quite worth the effort.
I don't know how much it matters since this store isn't in the U.S. but if you DONT sue someone for infringing on your copywrite then that actually can invalidate your copywrite.
Just saying.
this reminds me of that simpson's episode where homer's exact likeness is the spokesperson logo for some asian soap company and it ended up being a random coincidence.
Noone has pointed out the fact that the logos have different fonts. Doesn't make it legal that there is a small variation but I know alot of stupid people that think you can just change one element and it's ok and safe. Being a designer myself, I see alot or ordinary people who think copyright infringement doesn't apply to them. Obviously a big problem.
No wonder he doesn't fess up! Just look at the guy, he's definately lacking in the balls department and has "WUSS" written all over his face.
And no one corrected the link... Well, I hope it will be corrected
lol they can't sue.
the logo is too different to enable this website to sue.
Plus Malaysian law would support the fact.
Additionally, even if they were able to, there is a key difference, they are a store that target Malaysia and Engadget.com is a news website.
That's why you can have
Oxygen Media (Oprah)
Oxygen (Shoe store in london)
Oxygen (Make-up store in Bahrain)
Oxygen (clothing store in Canada)
etc.. and they all have similar logos too.
I like the radition alarm right next to the sign
Didn't u guys post this like a couple months ago???
you could sue, and probably should to protect your copyright here in the US.
International copyright laws exist.
Malaysian law would probably support their own country first because they are basically dishonest, and don't do much to police other people's intellectual property.
IP protection (or the lack thereof) is one of the dirty little hangups of free trade. Anything you can create can easily be reverse engineered and sold by someone else, and most of the 2nd world countries (asia, africa, south america) don't do much to stop it.
"engadget" is a made-up word, which gives it more protection than a word like "oxygen", which can be found in the dictionary.
Can some one post this on youtube? I cant see the vids.
Thanks
If you don't seek to protect your trademark in the engadget name and logo, you may lose your trademark to the engadget name and logo, at least under US law. You should definitely consult a lawyer.
No clue what the local law is there with regards to trademark rights (not a copyright issue, folks) but the minor variation in font and bars means squat.
You must protect your mark. If a foreign entity is infringing your mark, you can send a cease & desist or try to register your mark in foreign countries. Every non-authorized use of your mark hurts it in the long run.
Also, the fact that this is a website and that is a store shouldn't matter too much. The subject matter - - technology, gadgets, innovation -- are the same. If you were to register the mark here in the US, any good trademark lawyer would make sure that you had protection for your mark across as many legitimate areas as possible.
If you haven't sought registration for the mark or the logo, you should do it ASAP.
Engadget,
While I'm sure Aaron's intentions are good, I wouldn't take intellectual property legal advice from someone who can't spell "copyright."
Don't thank me.
Did Aaron spell it copywrong?
JK: Hahah.. I knew I spelled that wrong as soon as I hit "Add". No edit feature here ;) Was waiting for my ownage.
I'm still "write" about the issue though ;) Although like I said, the fact that the IP infringer is in Malaysia probably makes this a non-issue.
Wasn't this mentioned last year in Engadget? Anyway... I would never publically state you're not going to sue. You need to protect your name and brand.
well done dude well done
They should of wore the engadget shirt..and asked
" where's the apparel section? "
quicktime is a piece of crap! some videos work, some never do. and i'm updated too!
youtube anyone?
Maybe this will be a new photo op for geeks that read this website in Malaysia. Kind of like I want to get my picture taken in front of the world's "blankest blank" as often as possible (which reminds me to keep me away from Samsungs booth at press events).
If it doesn't work for you, try downloading VLC and just downloading the videos. It didn't work for me in my browser either, but VLC played it just fine.
I mean really. Come on. Are you serious?
The logo AND the name? Really guys, stop denying this and give the props. The web guys and the editors and contributors totally seem way cool and aren't going to sue, AS SAID BY THEM!!~!!~!!
But really, give props where they're due. Where do you get your ideas for product lines? What site do you use to stock your shelves? Hook up the props where the props are due. If people ask, tell them about the website, and include the guys making the site. Lucrative partnership is what I see from this. This could be the first of MANY endgadget store, and I would shop there.
But at the very least, give the guys some props. That is all.
~Engadget, you rock. I work in the tech industry and enjoy the writing and content on your site. Keep on keepin' on.
Hmmm... What if Engadget were the ones that Copied the Engadget logo from the store in Malaysia.... or the ones that came up with the design for the site...
Didn't you post the real store a couple of months ago?
I thought you already said it was fake???
Whats up with that???
Crappy video crashed my firefox.
Thats fu$%ed up that they denied it! Total bs. If they did admit they stole the name I wouldnt sue. But since they denied it. Engadget, take them down!!! Come on whats the chance that they would have the same two bars as well!
apparently bruceleeroy never read engadget 1985
Maybe Engadget (the website) copied off them??????
Can some one post this on youtube? I cant see the vids.
Thanks
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Here you are :
Store : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtCQViOsVDA
Denial : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-G6aOdISc0
no audio in the vids, but the point still gets across just looking at the guys face when hes confronted about the name. lol.
apparently dolomite never read engadget 1985
Sue his ass. especially if he denies it!
welcome to Malaysia... er, or just virtually anywhere in Asia. What a mess (copyrights).
I've read engadget 1985, I was just joking, of course these people copied off this site and know about it ,anyone can see that
The guy might be telling the truth, if he's not the owner of the store.
It's so Obvious he's lying, he wouldn't even look the guy in the face when he denied it!
Open an "official" Engadget store right next door to them and let them take YOU to court.
Obviously, engadget.com is more well-known than the engadget store. One can verify that by simply compare how many visitors come to this site and how many customers go into that store everyday.
I bet engadget.com has more than enough money to buy out that store if each 1 of us fellow readers contribute a dollar.
You really should consult a lawyer on this.
Any non-lawyer attempting to advise engadget.com is practicing law without a license (bad).
Copying is over the top in Asia, I'd say it's out of control.
no audio in the vids, but the point still gets across just looking at the guys face when hes confronted about the name. lol.
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Maybe get new codecs? Unmute your sound? There IS audio.