Another blurry Treo "Hollywood" shot, plus specs?

Palm's sieve-like reputation for keeping a lid on unreleased devices continues to the current round of Treos in the pipeline, and we're happy to feed the fire today with possible specs of the upcoming "Hollywood" accompanied by the obligatory hastily-snapped shot (blurred here to protect our valiant tipster). Though we still don't fully understand the relationship between this bad boy and Cingular's upcoming "Nitro" and "Lennon," it's said that we're looking at an antenna-less GSM Treo rocking Windows Mobile 5, 128MB of internal storage, and a 412MHz XScale core, all gussied up in a package "considerably lighter" than its 700w stablemate. If our source is accurate, all this goodness will drop sometime this September -- not a moment too soon for Treo fans on GSM carriers getting a little jealous of their CDMA brethren. Naturally, skepticism is in order here, but the engraving on the device lends some validity to the thought that it's a prototype, and this all lines up pretty nicely with Cingular's roadmap, no?

[Thanks, anonymous tipster]

[Lon B @ Jul 12th 2006 5:07PM]

Hmm the crisp pixel edges of the screen, look a bit to sharp vs. rest of image. Fake image?

[Chris Ziegler @ Jul 12th 2006 5:09PM]

Lon - the weirdness of the screen area was due to blurring we did here at Engadget to protect the source. The original looks considerably more legit all around.

Chris

[Excuse me for my terrible grammar @ Jul 12th 2006 5:20PM]

that display may be show relect by who took picture. That would be why it been protect the identify

[Rick Austin @ Jul 12th 2006 5:46PM]

But will it have a QVGA screen? WiFi? Quad-band GSM? If not, I'll continue waiting for the HTC TyTN (not long now) because IT DOES!

[DanITman @ Jul 12th 2006 5:47PM]

This was probably taken at some MS event for Windows Mobile. You can see a windows mobile banner in the back ground and it looks like some type of trade booth from MS.

[Mischa @ Jul 12th 2006 6:04PM]

I want to see keyboard badly....
does this one have a kb?

[bliss @ Jul 12th 2006 6:04PM]

Bagging that gi-normous antenna is probably one of the best moves. Now if they could so something about the thickness...

[Ryan @ Jul 12th 2006 6:12PM]

You mean this thickness?

http://www.inside-handy.de/img/news/n2321.jpg

[Teri @ Jul 12th 2006 6:16PM]

Hmmm, do you think we could get the crew from CSI in here clean up the image...Maybe run some program only privy to CSI to get rid of the blur to see whats on the screen?

[whoster69 @ Jul 12th 2006 6:18PM]

QVGA is already widely available on several devices Rick...

[Rod @ Jul 12th 2006 6:47PM]

I'm afraid that if someone does some image processing on the picture to remove the blurriness with an eigenvalue that is off, it will reveal Kevin Costner's face being reflected on the display.

[Mitchello @ Jul 12th 2006 7:01PM]

Yeah I was thinking the same thing as the first comment.

[SplashData @ Jul 12th 2006 7:06PM]

in case there is any confusion, the Treo 700w already has a QVGA screen, which is less resolution than that of the 650 or 700p (which have 320x320).

so i think you can safely assume any Windows Mobile Palm will have at least QVGA, hopefully better at some point.

[Anonymous @ Jul 12th 2006 7:20PM]

Screw this Winblows crud... I want the new GSM PalmOS Treo... slimmer or not, 64Mb or 128Mb, no antenna or not... I want two things: GSM (preferably UMTS/HSDPA) and PalmOS.

[adam @ Jul 12th 2006 8:11PM]

anonymous, you will not get a hsdpa treo running palm os for a while. the company that bought the OS is working on rebuilding it from the ground up, and it will be based on linux. you cannot use the current palm OS for hsdpa as the OS just cannot handle it, iirc, the fastest it can do is edge, if even that, maybe only gprs, i can't remember which one.

by the way, your palm os fanboy comments are worthless right now, because, whether you like it or not, windows mobile is probably the best mobile os out on the market right now, then symbian, then palm os, as it has been left in the dust to rot away. you know you have a terrible OS when the company that developed it leaves it behind in the trash for a better, competing one. (windows mobile)

[Sean DL @ Jul 12th 2006 8:58PM]

The above post was brought to you by the Microsoft corporation....


Kidding aside, "windows mobile is probably the best mobile os out on the market right now"

That just sounds so sad for the state of the mobile market.

[Stephen Mortensen @ Jul 12th 2006 9:46PM]

Engadget says the screen weirdness is due to them, I assume they blurred the edges of the screen too, but regardless it looks fake as hell because of that. I'd have to see one that the screen didn't look so fake before I believe it.

...regardless, I still don't care because it has the one fatal flaw: Windows Mobile.

[The Tipster @ Jul 12th 2006 10:38PM]

Hey guys, I am the one who took the picture. Its blurry because of the reflection. I do not want to get fired, the MSFT people would not like me very much if my reflection showed up in that picture. I will try to post more if I get the chance. Believe me, its NOT FAKE.

[jacob @ Jul 12th 2006 10:45PM]

So can anyone give me any actual reason for not liking Windows mobile? the "it crashes every day" crap doesn't work, not at least with the newest version, Windows mobile 5. Basically, the only real reason people have against Windows mobile is that it's more complicated than other OS's, which is true, but that's the price you pay with more features and capabilities.

[Mister Fingers @ Jul 13th 2006 12:10AM]

How about Windows Mobile is slow as crap?

Try playing with the MotoQ for awhile.

I'll take my blackberry 8700 over windows mobile any day of the week.

[jacob @ Jul 13th 2006 1:03AM]

slow when you use inferior processors (ok, and when you clog up the memory, windows mobile is a memory hog too)
I think if you do any research (internet forums, first-hand accounts, reviews, etc) most people think the positives outweigh the negatives, and you find many people complain about windows mobile because either they used an outdated device (the earlier devices were crap, to say the least, that's why I say compare the latest OS), they used a defective device, or they never used any device and make generalizations based on the stigma of owning a Microsoft product. Or they hate microsoft. either way...

[Siflan @ Jul 13th 2006 10:09AM]

This phone will be coming out on the European markets. It will not have the antenna and will be lighter than the current treos. I hope it does well on the other side, so they can bring it to the states. I believe it's labeled "Hollywood"

[Karl Viklund @ Jul 13th 2006 12:14PM]

Pretty Bad Photoshoper ^^

[paolo @ Jul 13th 2006 1:18PM]

@the tipster

hey man thanks for the pretty damn good pictures. ohh yeah by the way thanks for also risking you job for it =D

[fcots @ Jul 13th 2006 1:55PM]

Will you guys please stop with the "hollywood" reference. You guys used to be so good about codenames when apple still used them outside of the numerical references. You are soo backward as to what you are calling any of these leaks. Please refrain from using codenames that you don't know are tied to the project. It makes you look like a child who wanders in in the middle of a movie and wants to know what's going on.

[Adam @ Jul 13th 2006 2:10PM]

All you people saying this was a photoshop, look at Palm's press release today. It is real, and I did hold it. So get over it. Its a GSM WinMo 5.0 phone with no attena and better specs.

[deCorvett @ Jul 13th 2006 2:58PM]

Adam, (or Maybe I must call you Bill?) the Treo 700p can handle EDVO (like WM5) and the next GSM based Treo will handle 3G (like WM5).

[Necro @ Jul 13th 2006 7:43PM]

"Hmm, Lets create some secrecy like the Sidekick 3. Maybe it will generate some hype!?"
– Palm® Product marketing Team

[aenar @ Jul 14th 2006 2:02PM]

The screen has been photoshop'ed-they don't want you to see the hiptop OS running on it...

[Dan @ Jul 15th 2006 4:56AM]

I wonder if this release will have 3G video capabilities and when it will be released in Australia.

I have been doing video calls with the Motorola, and for many calls it is really useful.

[frustratedpalmuser @ Jul 16th 2006 11:14AM]

just couldn't wait any longer for a real gsm palm treo. my 600 was falling apart and the 650 sidegrade was not an acceptable option. just got a nokia e61. symbian's not great but better than windows -- isyncs to mac pretty well and 3G works in japan. waiting for palm is just too frustrating!