Lightscribe to get color?
posted July 13th 2006 6:48AM
Apparently, the staff at TGDaily were flipping through the user's manual for one of their Lightscribe-equipped drives when they stumbled across a rather oblique mention of an upcoming color version of the current monochrome technology. They did a little journalizing and eventually contacted an HP PR staff, who informed them that "Lightscribe color background CDs are expected to be available later this year." This could be referring to the different colored Lightscribe discs that have seen release here and there, but when it comes to truly color laser CD imaging, obviously no official announcements have been made yet. We wouldn't be entirely surprised if the launch so many a Lightscribe fans have been waiting for winds up being timed to coincide with the announcement of an HP HD DVD drive or two. For right now though, we'll be sticking to our analog CD and DVD labeler, or as you may know it by its other name: a Sharpie marker.
Yes, LightScribe already has colour, but only two, black and greyscale.
Ok, so you'd get only 9 colours maximum, who cares, it will soon improve, no?
Apparently the future LightScribe will have 9 dyed heads of different colours per square pixel of colour trace.
The LightScribe will change the dye of one of the dyed heads in one trace pixel, and make the dye react into its proper colour, therefore colouring that pixel. The similiar principle is achieved in LCD screens, where 64 colour Liquid Crystal bulbs/Diodes exist per pixel.
The canvas of the disc has to be white or black for a better pigmentation.
Colours include: Red, Green, Blue, Yellow, Purple, Orange, Black/White, Grey, and Pink.
No too bad, but the thing is, unlike LCD screens the colour pigmentation will not glow, thus if you look very close you can see the background colour of the absent coloured heads, this makes the picture printed look strange.
LightScribe is trying multiple strategies to overcome this, but there are still rumours and real news about LightScribe using another method, using a material the changes colour depending on the colour of the laser, however the material soon enough fades within about 30 minutes in tests, but the question is what is the material. We'll just have to wait...
My idea: May be it would be cool to have a disc that has an actual full colour LCD screen as the label, that is powered sensitively by light, especially solar. That'd be cool. My colour screen calculator has this feature.
sounds good to me
This is exactly what I've been waiting for. I've been holding back getting one for a while because I figured they'd have a color one out soon. (or hoped anyway)
Hopefully this is true. Lightscribe is pretty cool. There are only two problems - it takes ages at decent quality and the media is expensive.
My Lightscribe Drive gives my DVD rips from Netflix that woderfull pirated momochrome look and my 4 year old can just look at the picture and put the DVD in the XBox without trying to decipher my Sharpie chicken scratch .
HP says that all Lightscribe drives will be compatible with a firmware upgrade .
Well, I think LightScribe is a good idea, especially againt sticky labels which can lose some colors on your fingers (it depends on the printer :) ). The only drawback is no one want to switch to a LightScribe burner when they already own a functionnal burner. If I'm gonna get one, it's gonna be when my current burner will retire.
I have just bought a new lightscribe DVD-RW, it arrived today. I look forward to getting home from work and installing it...
Anyone know any decent places to get the media? Id want to buy it in bulk, a cakebox or something similar, for both CD and DVD.
Best place is Best Buy, they have the spindles and they have the color light scribes which are cool.
This is ancient news and besides, the quality of LightScribe isn't that good. I'd rather have a $99 Epson printer that prints directly onto printable CD's. It's got color already and better quality.
Working in the consumer electronics industry, we have known about this Color LightScribe for a while since probably the beginning of the year. Chances are (I'm just a salesman) though, that it'll probably be out before Christmas.
This is talking about the new color backgrounds not color lightscribing. There are 5 new colors Red,Orange,Gree,Blue & Yellow and the traditional Gold.
Quote from yuppicide:
"This is ancient news and besides, the quality of LightScribe isn't that good. I'd rather have a $99 Epson printer that prints directly onto printable CD's. It's got color already and better quality."
I agree that the Epson printer may look a lot better with the color that the current lightscribe discs, but the current technology is amazing crisp and precise. The edges of text are perfect, and having the ability to do it with full color would be great.
What they really need to do is figure out how to burn the labels a lot faster. When it takes me 4 minutes to burn a disc, but then 30 minutes to do the label, I end up just using a sharpie instead of waiting.
swet- now I'll go out and buy a burner in a few minths
Colonial Day... good choice, engadget!
Quote from yuppicide & Jacob:
""This is ancient news and besides, the quality of LightScribe isn't that good. I'd rather have a $99 Epson printer that prints directly onto printable CD's. It's got color already and better quality."
I agree that the Epson printer may look a lot better with the color that the current lightscribe discs, but the current technology is amazing crisp and precise. The edges of text are perfect, and having the ability to do it with full color would be great."
Based on your comments, I am supposing that you have never used the epson CD printer. I had one for work & it was terrible. Once I used all the ink from the printer, I requested a canon all in one printer & went back to using my Casio CD printer. It is just B&W, but it works.
Dave: I HAVE used the Epson CD printers (I own an R220), and they're nothing short of flawless. Beautiful color, crisp, clean printing. Far above anything you could get from this Lightscribe technology. I'll skip their propritetary, overpriced discs and print on the readily-available printable media on my R220. Much better results.
Sounds pretty cool... but no huge advancement. They're just releasing discs that have colors other than gold. It's still going to be the same monochrome printing though. It seems like full color printing would be very difficult with the technology, and would be quite costly.
It's cool, but as others have said, *painfully* slow. I'd be more interested in a faster etch than color.
Yeah, CASIO CW-100 all the way. I would like to see some of the full-color, full disc thermal printers come down in price.
I had the opportunity to attend an HP training session some time back and the rep made mention that sometime in Q3 or Q4 of '06 HP was hoping to release "color" litescribe discs that were red, green, blue, yellow, etc. but were still monochromatic. The rep did say that HP was working on a full color version but because of the complexity they had no estimated date.
Concerning using laser for full color printing-
There a two possible ways that I can see this working:
a) Lightscribe CDDVDs come with layers of Red, Green & Blue the laser burns deeper for each shade. It would probably end up looking muddy at best.
b) Light sensitive media with using Red, Green & Blue lasers. Similiar to the Oce Lightjet http://www.oceusa.com
I think that either way you go, a thermal printer would be waaaay cheaper in the futere and not media dependent. If you are looking for color labels on your CDDVDs, get an Epson CD printer.
You can even convert an Epson 640 to a CD printer. You can find one on ebay for under $30.
http://www.videohelp.com/forum/userguides/177053.php
Sp`ange,
Wouldn't the emulsion on the CD have to be some sort of CMYK because RGB doesn't recreate all the colors when you're dealing with pigmentation. (RGB only works with light)
I would think they'd have to come up with something like colour-film that would need to be exposed by the laser.
At this point why bother with this slow, underdeveloped technology.
Epson CD printers are cheap, full color and FAST.
HP has just introduced the DVD/CD printable tattoo. Far superior then anything that Epson has to offer including longterm wear and tear.
HP CD/DVD Tattoos - Feature
• Translucent, super-gloss technology for attractive, durable glossy labels
• Innovative anti-curl technology prevents labels from wrinkling or curling or warping disc, even after exposure to extreme temperature conditions
• Water, smudge and fade resistant labels are made more durable
• Built-in label applicator in the package makes bubble-free application easy
• HP to provide free online design templates to enable easy personalization
Dave: I own the Epson printer I was speaking about. It's fabulous. 6 ink tanks, excellant quality and color, and fast!
My only gripe is the loading tray.. you can only load one CD at a time. Gets tedious if I wanted to make 20 copies of one all the same.. and sometimes the tray doesn't load right you have to push it in yourself.
But those problems aside it's a great printer for $99, does photos, CD's, and normal papers also.
cool idea, but FROZEN PETS is not for me, FROZEN dogs, FROZEN cats, FROZEN birds yuk
All of the new technology coming out is great, you should check out Cableorganizer.com where they have label printers that you can hook up to your PC so that you can design your own labels. Check it out, they have models by Brother, Dymo, and even K-Sun (which has the printer you can hook up to your PC.)
LightScribe and LabelFlash wiht a black and white - mast be DEAD!
World - is COLORS!
:)))
Wonder how much the media will cost...
Yup, that will be a concern. I print LightScribe DVDs for my clients when I produce their wedding videos and although they like it, they don't like the fact that its in grayscale. If this isn't too expensive then maybe I can take a look at it.
I'm also eagerly anticipating when the colour LightScribe will go on sale. Think there might be a market for this product.
RGB - IT HardWare Standart (Profile)
CMYK - Poligraphy Indastrial Standart (Profile)
I have two epson printers, the 320 and 220 and love them but have the same issues with the loading tray. I went to OfficeMax last week and found out HP came out with a cd printer and the loading tray is "built in". It's only 99.00 also, so it might be worth a try.