Big surprise everybody, the
Palm Treo 680 is coming to... wait for it... Cingular. Right, we know,
we all figured it was coming to Cingular anyway, but we snagged an internal Treo 680 PowerPoint doc and now we know for sure. It'll have everything we've been expecting: Palm OS 5.4.9 with that new five-tabbed quick access (dial pad, favorites, home screen, contacts, call log), quad-band GSP / GPRS / EDGE, 312MHz XScale processor, 2.2-inch 320 x 320 display, SDIO, Bluetooth 1.2, IR, PocketTunes, 1200mAh battery, and a 4.41 x 2.36 x 0.88-inch body weighing in at 5.28 ounces. Oddly, Cingular also made mention of a few things in their "confidential and proprietary" document that we found a little puzzling: listed with their compatible email clients, it mentions XpressMail, Good, BlackBerry Connect and... "Microsoft Direct Push (Q1,'07)"? Huh? Ok, so maybe the Cingularian who threw this document together didn't know his biz as well as s/he might have, but either way at least now we know for sure orange customers can expect theirs soon.
posted October 21st 2006 1:14PM
The 680 has an SD/MMC slot, not miniSD, so Cingular got it right:
http://www.palm.com/us/products/smartphones/treo680/specs.html
Uh Ryan? We know damn well that the 680 uses SD; not mini-SD. You are thinking of the 750. Sorry buddy.
lol... *shakes head*
T-mobile never gets treos :'(
Direct Push is a feature of Exchange 20003 SP2 and Exchange 2007 that works similar to Blackberry and Good. The device needs a firmware update to take advantage of that, which will be released in Q1 07
Microsoft's DirectPush is their Blackberry Killer... It shipped as part of the latest service pack for Exchange server. It enables supported clients to get 'push email' directly from the Exchange server without a BES or any other type of conduit, and it's free (so long as you pay for Exchange, that is).
I'm trying to figure out if this would be a compelling upgrade from the Treo 650. I definitely wouldn't mind the extra internal memory, and the internal anntena is nice.
Is it just me, or is that the only picture on Engadget to have an engadget watermark. Prolly Just me I probably never really noticed any other ones, somehow that just caught my eye.
I don't suppose that we could get a look at the powerpoint?
"Microsoft Direct Push (Q1,'07)" probably means that the service will be available Q1, 2007?
Does anyone know when it will be released to the public?
I spoke to a Cingular rep recently and he said that the upcomming Treo will have BOTH operating systems and that users will be able to choose which one they will install. He even went on to say that users can switch between the two. While I wish it were true, I'm not sure the switching will be an option but one can hope.
actually Windows Mobile doesn't support 320 by 320 res--a stupid limitation of the OS--so putting WM on the 680 won't work. The Cingular rep probably meant customers will be able to choose between the 750 and the 680, and switch SIMs between the two...
Actually Ryan Palm is a licensee of MS's ActiveSync, Versamail already synchronizes with exchange servers as a result of this. It just doesn't support MS's Push. Yet :)
That's probably what they mean, they'll add that extension via a firmware update in Q1.
Why is there a shadow on the right photo but not the left? photoshop?
do we know WHEN Cingular will be getting these? Come on guys......I have an upgrade just WAITING.....throw me a bone here!
we have more photo's here;
http://www.palm-dubai.net/001/2006/10/palm_treo_680_s_1.html
Do Treo's have wifi? If not, why?? I can't find any mention of it in articles, but the EDGE network is pretty slow (especially latency) compared to broadband...
I think it's really because the wireless companies want to make sure people use and pay for the data plan, and offering wifi would make it less necessary to use the data plan.
Is it confirmed that the 750 is coming out on Cingular? I haven't heard anything but speculation on the matter. I'd love to get the 750 over the 680, but at this point I'll take what I can get. Cingular's product line has been stagnant for so long, it desperately needs some refreshing.
How strange, I could have sworn reading nonsensical ridiculing of Cingular's fact sheet on this article this morning, yet now it's gone... *snickers*
Exchange already supports push if you use the IMAP functionality of it (with IDLE) and Chattermail. Been doing that for quite a while already.
Actually chatter supports Exchange directpush today. You don't need IMAP. (It can even support push with an OWA server, it's pretty amazing software).
Direct Push is only good for people that don't want the extra expense of BB or Good. You lose at least one very important feature for business users: the ability to search the global address book of your company.
Use Good. It rocks.
So.... tell us something we didn't know...
software update != to firmware updates, firmware for this type of device would be specifically for the gsm radio, which is totally unrelated to an application update.
infinity flex, who 'loses' global address lookup? that's available both with devices talking to ms exchange servers that support push as well as good right?
James - No. You do lose global address lookup. Confirmed by my tests and by my corporate Cingular rep. This was a little while back, so if they have made any kind of improvements since then, well, I am wrong.
PS-sorry about that double post.
How many crappy phones will Cingular "introduce" before the smart consumer just says no. No to Edge Phones. Cingular has a broadband that competes favorably with EV-DO but they refuse to utilize it. Edge is absoultely worthless. Under ideal situations, you get 90 kbits per second downstream and about 33 kbits up. While this is superior to the average dial up modem, it is an embarrasment to any person that has what they believe to be a "high tech" device. Especially if that person is paying about 80 a month for this "service."
Cingular, get the HTC 8525 and the Samsung i60? in the pipeline so you have something to compete with the Motorola Q at Verizon.
And what phones that you think that Cingular has that are crappy? I can give you some that are very good and better than their competitors from other carriers.
Bring it to US Cellular FTW!
FYI - Cingular's site is down for maintenance, maybe unrelated though.
The 680 will be available in Cingular stores on October 31st, and the 750 will be available in Cingular stores on November 9th. I've heard this from a reliable source, although was unable to get a price quoted.
Under ideal situations, you get 90 kbits per second downstream and about 33 kbits up.
Wrong.. I get 135-140 down at any given time, not sure of up as the two speed sites I've tried only measure down.
2 questions about the 680-when will cingular have it and will it work with cingulars high speed mobile broadband? the major limitation of my 650 is sloooooow downloooooads. Thanks!
Uhhh...you do NOT lose the ability to do Global Address Book lookups with WM devices. We have several 8125s we've been kicking around, utilizing the "push" email feature built into Exchange 2003 SP2. That part works fine.
Battery life is terrible, but that's the breaks.
Wanted to know if anyone has been using this device? The treo 680 with cingular. Have heard reports that the treo locks up at time and wanted confirmation on that....
Also, Has anyone tested the quality of voice with the treo?