Blu-ray Disc Association declares victory over HD DVD
By Richard Lawler 
posted January 8th 2007 6:55PM
posted January 8th 2007 6:55PM
The Blu-ray Disc Association has wasted no time, issuing a statement that it is victorious as the premiere high definition format of choice. With 25 different companies having released Blu-ray related products, over 170 movie and music titles announced so far and of course, more than one million PlayStation 3s shipped to the U.S. Andy Parsons, chair of the U.S. Promotions committee is comfortable citing Blu-ray's industry support as a reason customers have voted with their wallets and will continue to do so. In 2007 the BDA looks forward to second generation PC and and standalone Blu-ray drives, like the BD-P1200, the Sony Vaio XL3 and a strong lineup of movie releases as why its market share will continue to increase this year, all but eliminating any competition by 2010. Check out our live coverage of the BDA press conference going on right now for more propaganda/truth (depending on your viewpoint).
Game Over! The Porn industry sided with HD-DVD. Remember Beta vs. VHS, guess which format the porn industry chose then? Read on....
http://www.tgdaily.com/2007/01/11/ces2007_hddvd_blu_ray/
I guess being a gamer helps a lot right now. I bought the Xbox HD DVD box shortly after release and I couldn't be happier with it. I guess that's a lie, I could be happier (ie. HDMI...duh MS). Anyway, for 2oo bones I get to watch 1080p movies. Awesome. It's a new Samsung DLP that supports 1080p via component...had to say that before some one jumps all over me and says its only 1080i. I'll eventually break down and get a PS3 when they finally release some decent games, and then I'll get 1080p movies via Blu ray. It's going to be annoying as hell switching back and forth depending on what movie I want to watch, but I guess thats the price you have to pay when the big boys are bumpn' heads. 7oo bucks for me, maybe 1200 bucks for others if you haven't chosen your next gen gaming medium.... isn't too bad to be able to ride out the format war comfortably. 1200 seems awfully steep though for a stand alone combo player, especially since video games have such a high penetration rate in the average american home. (sorry rest of the world, not sure how your penetration rate looks). Anyway, it's taking forever to get to my point, but my point is....is there going to be a winner in the HD format war? Why didn't Betamax survive? VHS were smaller, cheaper, more popular and 3rd party people got a piece of the action. Why didn't mimi disc survive? Expensive!, no 3rd party action, CD's just worked better for everyone. Why didn't Laser Disc survive? They were HUGE, expensive, and being first in the market didn't help since DVD came in with a clearly better medium shortly afterward. So here we are now stuck between a rock and a hard place with Blu ray and HD DVD. But all is not the same. Now we have Xbox and Playstation in the game already in a lot of homes now pulling double duty with the ability to play their respective HD format. With a solid start with us gamers, it removes the advantages the previous formats had to crush their competition. I know their are still a lot of people out there who are not that interested in gaming who won't be purchasing an Xbox or PS3 for games anyway, so what will it take to win? I mean really win, not just have a small majority of titles or studio support. HD DVD and Blu Ray appear to be equals in quality and ability, so that eliminates that. Both have been developed and released in the relatively same time, so that cancels that advantage. So I guess in my eyes, its going to come down to which group will foster 3rd party support the best and be willing to give them a big enough piece of the pie. Weve been seeing exclusive titles go the way of the dodo bird in trade for more profits by getting their product in more hands vice making people buy THEIR equipment. (ie. PS3 exclusives going to 360. www.gamespot.com) Sorry it took so long, but this is the question I come down to. How WILL they (HD DVD / Blu Ray) clearly and decisively take the lead?
You nailed it on the head Jypson it will be third party players. Beta didn't lose because of porn. Beta had porn, but VHS had third part vendors making there systems (as both do this time around) so there were 3 vhs to 1 Beta. Laser Disk failed because of TITLES. DVD had so many more movies, yes it was smaller. But who wanted to keep watching back to the future?? It is close right now, but with every PS3 shipping with a Blu-ray and he fact you have to buy the add-on or the 360 leaves you at about the 3:1 ratio of BD to HD in homes right now even with the 250k stand alone HD players out there. Granted not everyone uses thier PS3 for movies but the option is there and I'm sure that option will be exercised considering the 700% increase in BD sales when the PS3 hit the market. Also the quality won't be the same. Longer bigger movies will have less quality on HD due to storage. Most films though your right will look the same in both. If universal starts releasing BD that will be the begining of the end for HD-DVD. Not to mention that they want to have some tripple layer HD-DVD to compete with dual layer BD. These tripple layered disk will force you to get a new HD-DVD player, which will kill HD-DVD.
Well, if BD is going to prevail, I hope they put HD DVD out of it's misery ASAP. The longer this draws out, the longer us consumers are going to be getting the proverbial shaft. It will be quite the upset if Sony takes the cake. Especially after all the $hit they took adding BD to the PS3.
Blu-ray outsells hd dvd 7:1, thats the true sign!
http://www.highdefforum.com/showthread.php?t=35305
Blu-ray outsells hd dvd 7:1, thats the true sign!
http://www.highdefforum.com/showthread.php?t=35305
If youre going to make a statement and provide a link to support that statement, at least try to link to something credible and not a forum which discuss something a Sony president says in an interview. At that point, it becomes as credible as the above victory declaration.
bluray is wining. look on amazon cheak the top 5 bluray movies and cheak the top hd dvd movie. bluray has 5 under top 500 dvd where hd dvd has 1 after that one hd dvd jump up to 1400 which is way behide. so bluray is not only selling more player but dvd as well.
When I first heard that porn was going with HD-DVD, I thought the same thing. But reality is, in the 80's, there was no internet! The majority of porn is downloaded and streamed. So why would it matter on which format they went to? It's not the same battlefield as it was during Beta vs. VHS. The bottom line comes down to which one provides the best value for the consumer and the producers? The answer is clearly Blu-Ray. It is more versatile than HD DVD.
The bottom line comes down to which one provides the best value for the consumer and the producers? The answer is clearly Blu-Ray. It is more versatile than HD DVD.
You clearly have not done your research. The format that provides the best value for consumers and the producers would actually be HD DVD. The advantage that Blu ray offered over HD DVD was its storage capacity, which has yet to materialize as a strength when it comes to movies (and probably never will till we surpass 1080p content and/or movie lengths longer than 3 hrs as the standard).
With Blu ray, the consumer and producers are given a more expensive format with touted storage capacity superiority that hasnt made a difference with the movies theyre storing. HD DVD is cheaper for the producers and the consumer yet offers everything that Blu ray offers despite the lower capacity.
AceMan223, you are on the right track, but pliepl is right. The main argument for HD-DVD is that its better for consumers. Blu-ray is only still around because Sony is flexing it's muscle at other companies. HD-DVD is still around because the consumers and enthusiasts are pushing for it, not a big company. Blu-ray holds a little more data- THATS IT, there are no other benefits! HD-DVD is easier and cheaper to make not only the discs but also the players. HD-DVD is the "informed consumers" choice. Now you know :)
In my opinion (for what it's worth) this is the usual hype I have come to expect regarding Blu-ray. Sony are well known for trying to monopolise a format, they did it with Betamax Video, mini disk and memory sticks and lost on all counts, hardly an encouraging track record. This latest declaration by the Blu-ray Disc Association is yet another example of a rather distasteful way of using facts dishonestly to try and influence end users into buying Blu-Ray products. I truly hope HD-DVD wins this format war because I am rather fed up with the whole Blu-ray fiasco. Who wants a format owned by a company with Sony's track record anyway?
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/107534/Forget_Dallas_Debbie_Does_Blu_ray_Discs_on_PS3
porn didnt pick hd dvds they picked both
Of course Blu-ray won. As-if that was ever in doubt. What idiot would bet on HD-DVD?
It seems that in order to get into one format or the other or both, one will have to spend a few dollars. Is it worth it? Depends on how important it is to have a the latest technology in home entertainment. For those who already have hi def tv's without these higher res. formats are missing out. One thing to keep in mind is make sure you have a capable a/v receiver with hdmi and good speakers to compliment the video. God may there be one format soooooooooooooon............