Awww, don't pretend like you didn't know it was coming: Palm officially bounced out the long-rumored
Treo 755p today. The 755p is only an incremental upgrade to the
Treo 700p which came out about a year ago -- anyone expecting a full upgrade better keep waiting. Consequently, the specs aren't anything too surprising: 320 x 320 pixel display, 128MB of RAM, 321MHz XScale processor, EV-DO Rev. 0, miniSD memory card slot (up to 4GB), 1600mAh Li-Ion battery, Bluetooth 1.2, 1.3 megapixel camera, and runs on Palm OS 5.4.9. Available exclusively from Sprint -- at least for the time being -- in two colors, burgundy (yeah, burgundy) and blue. Retail price will be $279.99 with service agreement.
Palm products, at least the generations i have used, are relatively unreliable, i can't imagine having a cell phone/calender fail with all of that data on it. No good.
However, it does look like a good phone, and it does what it says it will do well with a user friendly interface so i really can't rag on it too much.
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I used to own the 600 and it was buggy as all hell. But my 700p works pretty well, rarely crashes, and never crashed during phone calls like my 600 did. So I don't think bugginess is a big issue any more. However, battery life isn't so hot with the 700p. I always carry a spare batter if I need more than a day of use (mind you, constantly using email and making movies, etc. really drains the battery).
There is an program for Treos to restore data. An option is to have it create a restore point everyday so you don't need to worry about losing data. Easy enough for me.
Yawn. How much longer for the iPhone?
sounds like the 680, except its cdma instead of gsm.
Nice - looks like essentially a streamlining of the Treo 700p with bugfixes and an updated formfactor. Price needs to drop, however - this should be more like $200. Palm had better get cracking to compete with the iPhone, as it will likely pull a LOT of Treo users.
@1: While Palm OS does not have protected memory, it is no longer as crashy as it was when the 600/650 came out (much better NVFS support). Meanwhile, any recent Palm uses non-volatile memory and will not lose its data if the battery fails. Hasn't been an issue in years.
I've had a Treo 650 for just over two years. I love the thing. I keep all sorts of notes and even password (protected) on it, all my appointments and contacts. Since it has non-volatile memory and is backed up daily to my PC, I've never once lost data on it. It's one of only a handful of devices you can actually do 'real' email on. I'm not a 12 year old. I can't do full emails with a little number pad and 'text messaging' shortcuts. I need to use actual words. Sure there are a few other phones with keyboards, but none are as expandable as a Palm. Blackberry? Q? Sure, cute. But I have a dozen games, a Commodore 64 simulator (don't ask), local traffic app, and bunches of useful little utilities I rely on. Those other phones are very limited in the 3rd party apps you can use. Is the Treo "too much" phone for most folks. Probably. But it's the Swiss Army knife of phones.
As for the iPhone, I LOVE the iPhone as an art concept. Looks pretty and is amazing tech from what I've read. But the battery life so far looks to be awful, and it's not replaceable. So far Apple is refusing to let 3rd parties do utilities/apps for it. And finally, having used a Treo for years, with it’s touch screen just half the size of the overall phone, I have to wonder about a device that is one giant touch screen from edge to edge. Fingerprints? Smudges? Scratches? I’ll spend most of my day constantly wiping it down. A+ as art. C- as useful phone.
As for the iPhone, I LOVE the iPhone as an art concept. Looks pretty and is amazing tech from what I've read. But the battery life so far looks to be awful, and it's not replaceable.
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So your only complaint is based on.. nothing.. and the non-replaceable battery is rechargeable just like the iPod.
Wait, is it good for the environment if we keep throwing away batteries? Just a thought... Or would it be better to have something good for the environment, where customers just go to the ATT or Cingular or Apple store to get a new battery (say, every 2 years)
Think.
Wait, is it good for the environment if we keep throwing away batteries? Just a thought... Or would it be better to have something good for the environment, where customers just go to the ATT or Cingular or Apple store to get a new battery (say, every 2 years)
Think.
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you know, replaceable or not, if it's depleted, you still will have to throw it away, only this time along with the whole phone... even if it is service-replaceable, they _will_ throw it away. is that more environment-friendly? think.
So, let's say I get this phone and then switch carriers... how do I know if it's compatible?
@Ryan
this being a cdma phone...you're pretty much stuck with whoever you buy it from first
if it was an unlocked gsm phone, then you might have options
How does this phone compare with the Motorola Q?
Yes, but if Apple has to throw it away they'll be more inclined to throw away the batteries properly instead of just chucking it in the trash like most regular users do.
Can this be sync'd with my Mac? I had (has since been "lost") a T-mobile Blackberry Pearl and was able to sync to Mac via third party utility...is one abvailable for this?
Thanks!
You don't even need a third party app. Palm syncs with Mac out of the box.
Treo...Treo...yet another Treo...Where the heck is the Samsung i760?!
highly unimpressed.This should have come out two years ago. On the brighter side, this site if giving away two ones
http://www.gx-5.com/specials/winatreo755p.htm
No my complaint with the iPhone isn't "nothing". It's that it's battery life (so far described) is FAR to low for serious phone use. My Treo will last for a week or more WITHOUT using the phone, just the PDA functions. And I'm sure the iPhone will last a while without actually, er, using the phone. As an iPod it's neat. As a phone...not real good. And again...one giant smudge/scratch surface. The 'little' screens on the iPods always get mucked up, just imagine a device that is JUST one giant screen. Ecks. Pretty. But...
The iPhone complaints are vaild. The nonremovable battery is completely unacceptable. There is no engineering reason for it to be non-removable. Its simply designed to encourage users to buy a new phone when their battery inevitably gets flakey. It also completely shuts our most "power phone users" who need to be able to swap batteries.
I am going to be getting one of these after my Verizon contract runs out. I currently have a 650 and it does more than I need, its just kinda bulky. The only thing im annoyed about is with this model is that they didn't go for Rev A EVDO. The phone would be a lot cooler if it had the latest data protocol on it.
I'll still pick this up anyway, and keep it till I have to resign my contract again in 2 years. Hopefully by then there will be faster data and a palm phone that runs LINUX already (maybe duke nukem forever will come out first)
So you cant change the battery in the new Apple I-Phone. I am on the phone about 5 to 6000 minutes a month and I was going to get one of these. So I guess I should just go with a Treo 700p then? This way I can change batteries if needed.