Like it or not Dell, HP, etc all LOVE VISTA! Dell has been losing ground to the other companies because price isn't so much of an issue anymore... the pricing of PCs between the big PC companies is not that different anymore. Vista is what is selling new PCs. Part of the reason the OS requires better hardware is to drive PC sales.
And some of the other comments are right... many businesses have probably purchased licensing in very high numbers for Vista but haven't loaded it yet. MS usually allows you to load one version back of the software you are using... so you buy Office 2007 you can still legally load 2003 on your machines. That is good from a traning standpoint. But those are still companies who have purchased Vista licenses who are going to be installing it... still sales!
Also... don't forget that MS still owns XP... They are still making good money every time someone buys a license for a product that don't really do much work on anymore... Dell is doing it customers a dis-service by selling them PCs with outdated OSes... Maybe Dell should get all their hardware working with Vista so it isn't a problem.
Companies like HP make a lot of the PC components themselves and can make drivers for them in house... Dell usually buys components from other companies and has to rely on them for the drivers... that is how Dell was traditionally cheaper than other companies... they were always throwing the least expensive components they could find into the machines...
Oh and don't forget about the changes in Vista and the rollout side of it... This is the easiest version of Windows for IT groups to rollout and support... I know us home users don't care about that but for companies that are buying the bulk of the computers out there there are some real nice new things in Vista on that side of things.
"Part of the reason the OS requires better hardware is to drive PC sales. "
Not true at all. The OS uses better hardware because better hardware is now the standard and CHEAPER. Why would they build the OS based primarily old technology? If it is going to last it needs to be based on current technology as well as prepared for the future.
"Dell is doing it customers a dis-service by selling them PCs with outdated OSes... Maybe Dell should get all their hardware working with Vista so it isn't a problem."
Where did you get this information from? Every Dell I've seen with Vista pre-installed works JUST FINE. Do you have any facts to back up your post or are you just spewing random thoughts?
"Companies like HP make a lot of the PC components themselves and can make drivers for them in house... Dell usually buys components from other companies and has to rely on them for the drivers... that is how Dell was traditionally cheaper than other companies... they were always throwing the least expensive components they could find into the machines..."
What are you talking about? Are you serious? Are you telling me HP makes their own processors, hard drives, video cards, DVD/CD burners, etc etc? HP is no different from Dell in regard to what quality parts they use. Dell uses Western Digital/Seagate hard drives, NEC/Sony/LG cd/dvd burners, intel/amd processors, and many other name brands. All video cards are pretty much the same standard parts.
Quit spreading lies and get your facts straight before posting.
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Like it or not Dell, HP, etc all LOVE VISTA! Dell has been losing ground to the other companies because price isn't so much of an issue anymore... the pricing of PCs between the big PC companies is not that different anymore. Vista is what is selling new PCs. Part of the reason the OS requires better hardware is to drive PC sales.
And some of the other comments are right... many businesses have probably purchased licensing in very high numbers for Vista but haven't loaded it yet. MS usually allows you to load one version back of the software you are using... so you buy Office 2007 you can still legally load 2003 on your machines. That is good from a traning standpoint. But those are still companies who have purchased Vista licenses who are going to be installing it... still sales!
Also... don't forget that MS still owns XP... They are still making good money every time someone buys a license for a product that don't really do much work on anymore... Dell is doing it customers a dis-service by selling them PCs with outdated OSes... Maybe Dell should get all their hardware working with Vista so it isn't a problem.
Companies like HP make a lot of the PC components themselves and can make drivers for them in house... Dell usually buys components from other companies and has to rely on them for the drivers... that is how Dell was traditionally cheaper than other companies... they were always throwing the least expensive components they could find into the machines...
Oh and don't forget about the changes in Vista and the rollout side of it... This is the easiest version of Windows for IT groups to rollout and support... I know us home users don't care about that but for companies that are buying the bulk of the computers out there there are some real nice new things in Vista on that side of things.
"Part of the reason the OS requires better hardware is to drive PC sales. "
Not true at all. The OS uses better hardware because better hardware is now the standard and CHEAPER. Why would they build the OS based primarily old technology? If it is going to last it needs to be based on current technology as well as prepared for the future.
"Dell is doing it customers a dis-service by selling them PCs with outdated OSes... Maybe Dell should get all their hardware working with Vista so it isn't a problem."
Where did you get this information from? Every Dell I've seen with Vista pre-installed works JUST FINE. Do you have any facts to back up your post or are you just spewing random thoughts?
"Companies like HP make a lot of the PC components themselves and can make drivers for them in house... Dell usually buys components from other companies and has to rely on them for the drivers... that is how Dell was traditionally cheaper than other companies... they were always throwing the least expensive components they could find into the machines..."
What are you talking about? Are you serious? Are you telling me HP makes their own processors, hard drives, video cards, DVD/CD burners, etc etc? HP is no different from Dell in regard to what quality parts they use. Dell uses Western Digital/Seagate hard drives, NEC/Sony/LG cd/dvd burners, intel/amd processors, and many other name brands. All video cards are pretty much the same standard parts.
Quit spreading lies and get your facts straight before posting.