With just a few days to go before launch, Apple has apparently lifted its embargo on the lucky few journos to get their hands on an
iPhone a couple weeks early, and David Pogue, Walt Mossberg and USA Today's Edward C. Baig are doing the first honors. And honors abound: three out of three reviewers agree that the iPhone is pretty much the sexiest phone to ever hit the market, and there was no small amount of praise for the high resolution screen, svelte form factor and sturdy construction -- nano scratchers rejoice, nobody managed to make a mark on this thing. The iPhone turns out to be a bit of conundrum, excelling and even revolutionizing certain phone functions, while utterly failing at others. First the bad: call quality is only average, and AT&T's weak sauce signal wasn't doing the iPhone any favors. It also can be a rather multi-step affair to even make a call, since there's no home screen speed dial or voice recognition, and the phonebook can't be searched, only scrolled through. Other failings like the lack of MMS, IM chat and video recording are even more mysterious. And that EDGE data? Pogue found himself longing for the days of dial-up, while waiting 1-2 minutes for popular sites to load, and while WiFi was quick to save the day in many instances, that's hardly an excuse in the year 2007. Luckily, there's plenty to love about this new approach to phoning, like an excellent web browser, mail client, visual voicemail and Cover Flow-enhanced iPod functions -- they're what Apple has been tooting its horn about, and they all seem to work as advertised. The keyboard more or less requires "faith" in the word auto-correction -- an Apple rep likened it to using The Force -- and while all three reviewers were able to get up to speed sooner or later, it's most certainly agreed that this is no BlackBerry-killer. Battery life was a non-issue, outstripping most smartphones, and nearly meeting Apple's
claims.
Read - David Pogue "The iPhone matches most of its hype"
Read - Walter S. Mossberg and Katherine Boehret "Despite its network limitations, the iPhone is a whole new experience and a pleasure to use" (Check out Walt's video review after the break)
Read - Edward C. Baig "Apple's iPhone isn't perfect, but it's worthy of the hype"
Read - Steven Levy "one of the most hyped consumer products ever comes pretty close to justifying the bombast."
Read - Phil Baker "The iPhone's ability to perform so many capabilities in a single device and still be intuitive to use is a remarkable achievement."
posted Jun 26th 2007 7:48PM
I would hardly call the iphone sexy.
So in essence, Apple have spent most of their time concentrating on the "smart" part, and forgotten about the "phone"?
it is not a smartphone...
Doesnt sound like the homerun Apple was looking for.. even their biggest fanboy, Pogue, found issues with it.
Whats the world coming to?
This is how the iPhone will change our lives X:)))))))
http://www.fashreport.com/fash_report/2007/06/the-iphone-is-r.html
Considering the hype, saying that it lives up to that hype is about as big a thumbs up as possible. you wanted him to say that it is the first and only perfectly perfect consumer product?
Many you guys are brutal. Look, this thing is not the Jesus phone for me either, but what reality are you living in when three reviews saying that a product is pretty damn good equates to failure?
Wow, it's like everyone loses. It's not the best thing ever, and it doesn't suck ass. I guess all the fanboys and haters alike can go home now.
Iphone = too much hype
too much money
How many weeks before the price drops?
I bet 3 months!
Well let's see if that is true
Man, are you going to get roasted by the fanboys for mentioning the negatives in your roundup!
The wall street journal article hints at apple offering free software updates.. maybe a true IM app maybe in the works...
Also where will i get my ringtones if you cant use the mp3's you've loaded on??
Apparently, pretty much nearly to revolutionizing a certain approach to phoning, LOL
To be fair about calls taking many steps, it takes almost as many steps with my Treo 650:
1) Wake phone
2) Unlock
3) Go to Phone app
4) Hold speed dial #
or
4) Push call button to summon recently dialed list
5) Select number
or
4) Select contacts
5) Scroll or push letter
6) Select name
If you're smart with your Treo, waking and activating the phone app are the same action.
So its more like phone button, unlock, dial / contact list.
Yeah, but if you look at BlackBerry you get:
1: Push call button
2: Select recently dialed
3: Push call button
or
1: Start typing number
2: Push call button
or
1: Select address book
2: Select or start typing name
3: Press call button
On a phone with voice dialing and a headset you could even get that down to just pressing a button and saying a name.
My point is it just depends on what you are comparing it to. Plus, on a Palm or Windows Mobile device, you could always download software to make calling more efficient if you wanted to. From what I have heard so far, the iPhone has the most steps I of any phone I have come across to make a call.
@Lloyd
Yes, it does depend on what you are comparing it to, and in this case I'm comparing it with one of the most popular smartphones in history.
@tcc3
Ok you've boiled it down to 4 steps. So it's not a gigantic difference between the iPhone. Thanks for demonstrating my point perfectly.
Yes, but that's my point, "in history." How popular is the Treo these days? I wasn't trying to say a Treo or BB was better than each other or the iPhone, I was trying to point out that if you want to beat the competition, you have to do better than them. Part of the reason the BB is so popular, is precisely because they looked at how the Treo did things and improved them. Easier to make a call, better email, smaller size, better keyboard, all improvements over the Treo that contributed to the sucess of the BB in recent years. Apple on the other hand, is coming into this market going the other way. Larger size, more steps to make a call, no keyboard, worse email than their competitors. Sure, it has advances in other areas. I have no doubt at all that it is a better media player than a Windows Mobile, Palm, or BlackBerry device. I have no doubt that given a fast Wi-Fi connection it does a better job rendering full web pages than the BlackBerry browser, Pocket IE, or Blazer. There is no denying that it has one of the nicest case designs I have ever seen in a smartphone.
However, it IS a phone! One would think that on the list of important features for a phone, dialing would have to be pretty high up there, and in this regard it is clearly a step backwards. Now for some people that won't be any kind of issue at all, because they will just do what people have been doing for years with smartphones, and still keep a small backup phone in their pocket. However, part of the success of the recent crop of smartphones, like the Pearl, is that they have been good enough phones that you could actually use it all by itself without needing the backup.
[sorry if this is doubled - Engadget is acting goofy again]
Ok, on my HTC Wizard making a call is this:
- Wake up phone
- press the 'voice' key
- say the person's name (or the phrase you recorded for the person)
Done.
On my Blackberry 8700:
1. Pull Blackberry out of holster
2. Hold down a speed dial letter.
Two steps. (And step 1 isn't even a step!)
Um... that's darn near with any phone minus goin to the phone app...
Next they will be pumping them out with out the phone option...had to throw that out there.
I almost stopped reading the first one after he praised it as a status symbol. But I continued only to lmao when I saw that yahoo takes 2 minutes to appear!
Yah, the phone plan is what bothers me here.
If that 2 year contract could just be for normal phone calls, with no "unlimited data" bother, I would be really interested in this!
It would be cheaper, and it would not give me those unnecessary features which have bloated cell phone plans of late.
WiFi access points are getting easier and easier to find (and with clever software, idling devices and GPS, they are simple to find!), and judging by how slow the service otherwise is, they are going to be completely preferable in this case. Being powerful, attractive and accompanied with smooth software, the iPhone could work as a fantastic handheld computer, but with the plan here, regardless of its potential, it is stuck being nothing other than a phone :(
Can use it for whatever I want? Well, that is true, but that doesn't help the fact that through the plan I would be paying for countless services I, (a person who could / would use WiFi in almost all cases), do not need.
Ah well, come to think of it, this will only be a problem for a few months. Apple tends to release the slightly imperfect thing first, then fix all the superficial problems a few months later.
hmm.. Edward Baig says: "Apple points out that iPhone's features — unlike other cellphones — can be upgraded in the future through software. The phone is built on top of the same OS X operating system that is on its Macintosh computers. You sync up the device to a PC or Mac through iTunes just like an iPod. A USB dock is supplied for this purpose."
Someone's got it majorly wrong there. I just upgraded my Dash from WM5 to WM6 (pretty significant changes). It was free, and Apple hasn't mentioned whether they're going to charge for the upgrade, have they? I'm presuming they will. If you're putting down $500 for your phone, you're putting down another $50 for an upgrade.
Must be nice to assume something just to fit you bias.
However, Apple has already announced that it has revised its accounting practices just so that it can offer free upgrades.
He meant in terms of actual software. If you want an IM app, you can download it and add it to your iPhone. It's basically the same concept as a widget. I'm a PC user and even I'm aware that Windows Mobile is incredibly limited in terms of customization in comparison to a full-functioning operating system. In this aspect, the iPhone is more like a UMPC as opposed to a smartphone.
I don't agree that Apple will necessarily charge for it, but you are correct that they have it wrong when they say "unlike other cellphones." BlackBerry, Windows Mobile, Palm and Sidekick have all had fairly major OS revisions released after the phone. In fact, in some of those cases the updates can even be pushed out Over-The-Air to the device. For that matter, even normal mobile phones sometimes have features pushed to them OTA. It is just another case of Apple saying they can do something no one else can, and lazy journalists falling for it.
I think it's somewhat foolhardy to suggest that Apple will be charging for additional functionalities for the iPhone. Look at the iPod for an example. Yes, Apple charges for some things, such as games created by 3rd party developers. However, functionality has been added to every generation of iPod via firmware updates. These are, of course, free of charge. I suspect that, after a month or two of beta testing and consensus by users, Apple will both fix outstanding problems and add features. This is OS X after all, it's much more flexible than the iPod, and it's in Apple's best interest to provide these services to up it's credibility and make the iPhone a complete smash hit (at which point Apple can stop all that).
John, what fantasy world do you live in? There is no IM app for the iPhone, none is available for download, Apple hasn't promised one, and 3rd party development is specifically prohibited. Just where do you think the user is going to go to download that magic app?
There is, in fact, no place that an iPhone user can go to download ANY iPhone app. None exist and there is no SDK made available to create them. IF you think that is somehow more extensible than other smartphones you are crazy.
It is a great product.
ummmm why in the engadget picture is the notes app missing and there is some mysterious new app that seems to say "entourage" underneath it. where exactly did that pic come from?
It's called Photoshop, and it makes their stock photos interesting.
I don't understand these ridiculously overstated comments about EDGE being terrible. I mean, unless AT&T EDGE is INFINITELY worse than T-Mobile EDGE, I just don't get how these long load times are being substantiated.
The problem is not EDGE or compared to any others.
It is that AT&T has a 3G network fully working, and most (not all) current PDA phones use it.
Even my year old phone that is "just a phone" takes advantage of the 3G network for AT&T.
No, that's not the point at all with my comment. EDGE on T-Mobile to my k790a (Opera Mini 4 Beta, does the same whole page load that Safari does) is much much faster than the reports people are making about EDGE on the iPhone. I just don't quite get the disparity.
Yeah, I don't have load times that bad with EDGE/Opera.... unless there's something seriously wrong with the safari browser, they must be connected to some exceptionally bad AT&T towers.
but still, no MMS? My crappy razr did MMS....
Speed of touchscreen/interface looks great though
Understood about MMS, definitely. That said, I never use it. Crappy quality - an email would be far superior in my book.
aaronlh,
Newsweek has a review of the iPhone up as well and the reviewer Steve Levy points out there are actually 2 versions of EDGE, one faster than the other. So maybe your T-Mobile EDGE is the faster kind? Here's the newsweek piece:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19444948/site/newsweek/page/0/
I suppose that's possible. Though, it's not like $4.99 for T-Zones for EDGE is some premium service >.
Sounds to me like the issues are not with the phone itself, but the network. I'm not sure you can ding Apple on the network. I would be willing to bet the upgrade for the next-gen cell data network will be free and within the next 18 months. I really think the crying is over nothing.
Then you'd lose that bet. One of the reviews, Pogue's or Mossberg's, not sure which, says explicitly that this iPhone model will never get 3G. It's a hardware thing, the phone doesn't have the receiver to pick up a 3G frequency and no software of firmware upgrade can add it. Apple chose not to support 3G - maybe with very good reasons, who knows - but it was Apple's decision so I think it's fair to hold Apple responsible for the limited cell network support.
DUDE! They said the same thing about high-speed internet about 5 years ago! Now, I'm stuck here paying $50 a month for DSL because cable's not available in my area. People are STILL trying to charge $20 a month for dial-up! Data networks will probably NEVER be free.
GSM/EDGE and UMTS/HSDPA run over the same frequencies in the U.S. and both use QAM and PSK modulation schemes. The difference is mostly in protocol and spectral bandwidth per channel, basically different frequency plans, but both in the same frequency bands. I would not be surprised in the least if a software upgrade would address the 2.75G vs 3G issue.
All three of these guys are complete Apple shills, that's how they laned the early reviews... I subscribe to the WSJ and Mossberg's fawning and double-standard-prone reviews of pretty much any Apple iProduct is downright embarrassing. Pogue and Baig aren't much better.
can't wait to get mine. won't be standing in any silly lines though....
I don't really see how everyone is claiming the iPhone hasn't lived up to its expectations. The iPhone seems to be performing like they all expected: slow but elegantly. It's like being able to carry around a svelt, digital sea tortoise in your pocket which - in my opinion - is awesome.
@Ben
Not to be pedantic but your sea tortoise would drown, as they only live on land. Sea turtle maybe
Yugh, ya got me! Well, sea turtles move about more gracefully anyway - not unlike the iPhone's interface :P
Aggghhhh! Why do I always have to look!?
Wi-Max will be here soon and will make Edge irrelevant. Most major cities will have 100% Wi-Fi coverage with Wi-Max and Edge will never be used by iPhone owners.
The lack of MMS really isn't a big deal, given the unlimited data. If you really need to send a photo to someone's phone, just email it to their phone's MMS address. Usually @vzwpix.com or something like that.
I would love to point out to the creators of the Iphone, that if they were in tune to the market they would realise that compakies like I-Mate, E-Ten and HTC have been making these kinds of phones for years, and for the same cost as an Iphone, you can get a phone from one of these companies with not only quad band cell access, Wifi and Bluetooth, many of the new ones have satilite GPS and button (not virtural) keyboards. I then pose the question, Why does Apple think they can compete in a market where their first product attempt is already out of date?
Becuase they did the same thing with the iPod and made a dollar or two?
Rob,
Apple is not only going to compete, but in a couple of years dominate the market. This whole rhetoric about other phones being better than the iPhone and and having more bells and whistles is unimportant. Apple understands the end-consumer better than most companies, which is why they've been so successful. Yes, their success has alot to do with marketing, but no company will survive unless they have a quality product that people want. I know there are a lot of folks that want the iPhone to fail, just can't understand why. If the iPhone isn't for you, then just move on.
I charge my phone everynight if it needs it or not so the next day for work i have a full charge?
what is this 300 charges and you have to send it in for a new battery? That once a year? and if i remember what they wanted to charge for my kids IPods battery thats at least $60
Read Apple's own data about charging (apple-dot-com-slash-batteries). If you charge each night, for four nights, and each time had a 75% charge when you started, then those four 25% charges equal one charge.
wtf is an iPhone?
My $200 HTC 620, can do all the shit the Iphone does and probably more. Sure it doesn't have a pretty interface, but its definitely more functional as a smartphone. I wont even mention the endless arrays of software available for Windows Mobile. I'm not a fanboy, but I just dont see this iphone appealing to people who truly need a phone to be a smartphone and work and easily integrate with a persons life.
Thank God!!!!! No ring tones!!! I cant stand listening to someone else's audible aesthetic choices. Which most of the time are some crappy rerun shorts of American Idol.....Thank you Apple! I am buying one, leaving it in the box, and selling it in 10 years for 2500 credits....
Promising, but everyone save the fanboys should wait for version 2 or 3. They should work out the kinks and add a good chunk of the requested features (*cough* 3G *cough*) by then.
You know what though?
You can't add an update for a new HSDPA chip though. You can't get the data speeds faster on this thing based on the specs Apple built in. You can't download music from iTunes directly onto the phone.
This thing didn't live up to the hype on that alone. The problem I think the WSJ author has with the iPhone that he wouldn't normally is he probably talks on a CDMA network and his call quality is supurb.
downloading music from itunes, is easily possible as a software update. I suspect it has more to do with licensing, etc. that ease of implementation
I'd have to say that it doesn't seem to have have lived up to the hype especially well as it doesn't do the important things very well. Everyone says it's a a great mobile web browser and mp3 player, but not a great smart phone or cell phone. But more importantly it doesn't live up to its price tag.
You know - most of those people are well known Mac fans.
David Pogue and Steven Levy are OLD Mac columnists.
Walter S. Mossberg is so pro-Mac he got the first review unit. I don't think I've ever read a truely negative comment about Apple come from him.
Edward C. Baig is the only one I've not heard of.
Of course, this is to be expected, since Apple cannot risk even a little bump now (look at what just one erroneous post here in Engadget caused!) but I will enjoy seeing the reviews after Saturday from more critical and hard hitting reviewers - especially those who actually have an immunity to the RDF. :)
Now I know why Europe/Asia have to wait. Version 2.0 will have the missing phone features enabled, as well as 3G.
No MMS? That's ridiculous. MMS has just now gotten to the point where it's not ridiculously expensive anymore, and so I have had lots of fun sending photos back and forth. Yeah you can always send these to email addresses, but that's often a pain to set up so it works both ways - depending on the operator.
I mean - how friggin hard is it to enable me to send a 10KB picture to somebody else? In 2007?!?!
I use EDGE quite a bit as my backup connection because my main DSL is somewhat flaky, or when I am on the road. And I have to say, it's a sad excuse for an internet connection. It's so slow, it's not even funny - the theoretical data rate of over 200kbit/second is something you can only dream of. In practice it's only something like 8 channels or so and voice calls always take precedence, so if somebody nearby makes a call your data rate takes a nose-dive. EDGE sucks big time.
Definitely looks like the iphone will be a hit and AT&T will rule! Say goodbye to Sprint and maybe even T-Mobile!
To all impulsive buyers: It's just a phone. Calm down on Friday, take a deep breath and wait for 2-3 more weeks until the hype diminishes. I mean $500 for a phone? Wake up!!!
i like apple but iphone is not a smartphone... im just going to wait for the meizu minione m8
http://www.meizume.com/showthread.php?t=720
I love how these reviews clearly had positive things to say about the iPhone, yet so many haters skipped right ahead to the "drawbacks" sections of the articles. Look at the headlines, people! "Worthy of the hype" is not to be taken lightly considering how much hype there is (not to mention that the haters are just as guilty as the fanboys for creating such a huge buzz).
Regardless, it's obvious here that the haters are mad because the iPhone will clearly sell well regardless of its drawbacks. Poll 22-year-olds out of college (to whom this phone is marketed towards) and see how many of them know the difference between 3G and EDGE. Ask them how often they use voice-dialing, and then ask how many find it's a nuisance do say "DRIIIIVING" every time your phone accidentally goes into voice-activated mode. No one in my age range uses it because it's so freaking tacky. It's also worth noting that our generation uses mostly text message now and rarely talks on the phone (not that that excuses sound quality, but still, I've never met a person who bought a phone based on sound quality alone; most phones are sold by price or word-of-mouth).
Apple has been making the same point for quite a few years now: design and marketing (yes, even over function) will sell a product. It's the same thing they do with their computers and the same thing they do with their OS. This whole "anti-fanboy backlash" is the same song we've all been hearing from Linux and Windows users, who can apparently do more with their computers than Apple can except better because they bought their computer parts from scratch etc etc etc.
The only thing anyone should be upset about is the price (and many are), but do you honestly think Steve just thought of doubling the production price off the top of his head? They have plenty of analysts to decide that kind of thing and I'm sure that was the max price they could charge for the most profit. Keep in mind that if your precious Palms TREOs or Blackberrys could ever sell their products for a higher price (they can't), they would do it in a heartbeat. It's all business.
No way to win if you're gonna try convince an iPhone hater that the iPhone has many good points and will sell well. Any reviewer that says the iPhone has some good points, they're going to say that the dude was paid off or is an Apple kiss-ass.
I can understand they like their own mobile phones and stuff, but hoping a radical device that they've never even used will fail is seriously warped. To say that the iPhone has no redeeming qualities is rather extreme. There isn't any device that does everything perfectly. I think all devices are designed with compromises and version 1.0 always allows that there are improvements over time.
An iPhone does not work as good as a BlackBerry for corporate e-mail. An iPhone does not have 3G capabilities so browsing will be slower. An iPhone will not work with any network except AT&T. An iPhone does not have a removable battery. The list goes on and on. Still, those things will not stop the iPhone from being a top seller. Maybe they won't sell as many if the device had all those capabilities, but I think compromises had to be made at this point and time because of the partnership with AT&T and Apple and possibly because of iPhone form factor.
Now as far as it living up to it's price tag I think that going to be hard to quantify. There are so many athletes making large salaries and they do not satisfy fans because they fail to perform everything perfectly, every day. The fastest Porsche has very little luggage space or decent rear visibility. Nothing, absolutely nothing in this world matches all of our human expectations. You get what you get, take it and move on. You get 14 days to try out the iPhone, if you don't like it you return it. We'll have to see how many get returned.
I guess if you sit back and look at the world in a jaded view, everything sucks. The day is too short, the sun is too bright, insects are so annoying, the weather is too hot. God, you should have done a better job at designing our planet. Don't even you know the meaning of perfection.
Here is the thing, with all the negative points on the iphone how does it live up to the hype? I don't get how they are saying this. The iphone seems like a Windows Mobile phone, with less features, for more money.
no stereo bluetooth? terrible. it's 2007, where the $%#^@ is the Bluetooth iPod?
I can't even use stereo bluetooth on my Macbook until at least Leopard comes out AFAIK. There is no A2DP profile. I believe it was scheduled to be in Leopard which is one of the very few reasons for me continuing to upgrade this fall.
Sorry but more people are reading and buying into the NY Times, Newsweek and the WSJ reviews than some 100 Geeks posting their iPhone disdain on Engaget. Apple has another winning line and will be around to torment all of you Apple haters for a long time to come. Live with it and move on. I'm worried, all that hate, I think some of you are going to have a iStroke.
DID you ppl miss that part that said no VIDEO... i mean no video , what the fuk were u thinking apple, no video , no god damn video !
Ya, crazy that they would hype the YouTube integration so much and then not allow you to make videos to post... I'm waiting for the iPhone second generation. Hopefully it's out by Christmas.
The SADDEST thing about this whole situation is that when Apple releases a fix for the Copy-n-Paste function, people are going to be like, "WOW, Apple is so great! Thanks!" When it should've freakin BEEN THERE in the first place. This applies to other apps that should have never been exluded, like importing a ringtone in YOUR own phone!
I just want to know one thing...
When is Apple releasing the iGirlfriend?
Some of the quirks prove to be a deal-breaker for me:
1) I knew there was no one-touch dialing, but I assumed I could just voice dial through my headset. But it turns out there is no voice-dialing capability? Excuse me?
2) I knew this phone wouldn't be as good at data entry as the BlackBerry, but according to Uncle Walt's review, *the comma and period keys are not on the main soft keyboard.* You have to manually move to ANOTHER keyboard in order to type a comma or a period. What. The. Hell! So much for easily composing anything more complicated than to-do list items.
I know that the iPhone will probably be awesome despite these drawbacks, but I am not convinced. This is why I wait for the second generation of most products. I love Apple, but I am still wary.
I'm not a fanboy or a hater, so let me be completely honest, no video, crappy network data transfer, crappy text entry, no homebrew, 500$, limited plan options (hmmmm..no opt out for data?). It has too many things working against it to be revolutionary. how long did jobs say this phone was in the making? was it 6 years? maybe it should have been 7. The only truly revolutionary thing I see on this phone is visual voicemail, which is not exclusively owned by apple, and will very soon be a licensed technology. Everybody who wants to buy a status symbol, go right ahead. But make sure you voice your complaints loud and clear so that apple makes valuable revisions for version 2.
Too new, too old!!!!
""2nd Gen iPhone Rumors
June 27th, 2007 by Michael Josh in iPhone Rumors
Even before the world gets it hands on the Apple iPhone, there are already rumors about the second generation iPhone. According to “insider sources” of Australia-based Smart Office News, the next iPhone could be announced at Macworld San Francisco next January.
This is news for the rest of the world, who has sadly been left out of this initial offering. Among the new features touted are GPS, expanded WiFi capabilities, and syncing with email servers.
The report goes on to say that researchers in Taiwan are also looking into the lack of expandable memory. Like all rumors this one has to be taken with a grain of salt. However if you ask those of us at Apple Phone Geeks who aren’t in the US, we’re looking for 3G, HSDPA, blackberry functionality, and support for GSM networks. Most of all I think we can all agree that we want the iPhone available worldwide ASAP.""
that pogue article was horrible! How does he have a job with the ny times writing the way he does? That shit made my brain hurt!
Today I saw it !
http://www.giiks.com/?2007/06/28/709-iphone-on-l-a-vu
After hearing the guy talk about the pros and the cons am not that excited about that phone any more I thought when I heard about the phone on an ad on tv wow that looks like that could be a really cool phone and then I saw David Letterman talk about the phone so I talk to my daughter in the middle in the middle east and she said that she had read up on the phone and it's pretty expensive 600.00 dollars so I go to my cp and read all this stuff and low and be hold another guy talks about this phone on the AT&T video he saids the internet works slow and that there were other promblems with the phone I say to myself this is crazy who would be in the right mind would want to buy this phone what a waste.It's like they make the veido so that you would not want the phone you tell me? .... ..
iPhone sucks ass
I cant understand whats the big hype about the iphone there is a phone on the market for over 3 years its the Nokia 7710 SAME exact features than the iphone, the only thing it lacks is wifi. Same huge display same resolution (maybe more) so i dont get it. Its probably the CROWD PLEASER efect that iphones and ipods have. I rather be caught dead then ever owning a ipod or a iphone, theres cheaper and better tecnology out there, besides u wont look like a ONE more in the huge crowd of ipod and iphone users, everyone will have one, what ever happened to exclusivity????
First... I work for Microsoft. I use Windows Mobile devices and I have gone through many revisions to get what's today a true enterprise powerhouse. With that said, I'm impressed with Apple's simplistic user interface. A really novel approach to interfaces which can sometimes be clutter and and irritating. It is nice to see the goldenboy of tech putting out something that is not only selling but also making the market more diverse.
Apple has been doing a great job in general when it comes to the consumer space. They are putting out creative products which are selling, ipod and iphone are both going to be successful. With all this said Apple has some big problems when it comes to enterprise ready devices. It's all hype and creative marketing on a device which really does not go beyond what is essentially available in many of the smartphones which are on the market. It's going to be a while before we see Apple dominating the market. I think the iPhone will be a consumer favorite. The play is on music and iTunes integration. In reality, my Treo with WM5 can take a 8GB SD card and easily be right where the iPhone is from a storage capacity prospective. No, WM5's media player sucks when it comes to playback (major battery drain.) I see some nifty add-ins, and some novel things but I do not see anything special for power users and mobile professionals, the sign of a "smartphone". I call this an iTune phone with web searching capability. Searching the web can easily be done on my treo with deepfish (same style of browsing as the iPhone/Safari).
The iPhone is pretty darn cool from a consumer prospective. It falls miserably short for a smartphone prospective for real mobile professionals.