6G iPod UI video: Apple's new interface?
By Joshua Topolsky 
posted Jul 22nd 2007 10:09AM
posted Jul 22nd 2007 10:09AM
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Its fake, the eyecandy is wrong in some place. aka, clock?
how is it wrong? i don't understand.
look carefully. Pause the video and look at the seconds. The seconds should be 100% the same. Programming is math, If another another country has the sametime, it has the same seconds... look athe seconds on that timeframe...
Meh, I'll take REAL buttons, thanks.
As for buttons, this type of UI would be designed around the click-wheel. Look at the add/delete button. It is a slider, if it was a touch screen they'd make it two buttons.
As for the guy below with the problems about the clock. I've spotted them too. The clock times are mismatched. Seconds are a constant, but on the two clocks side by side they are different, and on the main clock they don't even move. Not only that, but on the clock selector they use a partial transparency. You'll see the world man faintly moving behind the clocks. This shows that not only do they have transparency, they have full 8bit transparency (like in PNG), as compared to the 1bit used in GIF. Yet on the main page with album art on the right 25% of the screen they couldn't use any transparency to give you a bigger view of the album artwork? I like much of what I see here, but I have a hard time trusting that this is what we'll see.
ignorant fool
the real problem with the clocks is that the second hands move at different rates. The top clock is about to overtake the bottom clock just the bottom clock is deleted. That, and the interaction with the GUI is non intuitive- why does the world clock country setting slide across from any ol' direction instead of being consistent? It's a poorly done fake.
Chances are - Apple released this themselves and requested it be taken down themselvesto throw people off the scent or they saw this was released and played the 'let's get an Apple Legal take down request so everyone thinks it's something we've got'.
Makes sense no?
I did see a comment on another site that the text are not apples usual ones used.
The iPhone used Helvetica, too. This idea isn't too far-fetched.
Frankly, I'd be more than pleased to see Apple stop using Myriad. The designers use it wisely, but it has opened the floodgates for billions of knockoff designs (along with that damned reflection treatment).
Apple doesn't use Myriad in any apps, though -- they only use that on branding-related stuff (ads, packaging, signs, in-store POP, etc.). OSX uses Lucida Grande, and I thought it was kind of strange that the iPhone uses Helvetica instead of that.
Complicating things further, the iPod has used this weird custom one called "Podium Sans" ever since it went color. But it would make sense to bring it over to the iPhone's Helvetica.
Everyone keeps speculating on a new iPhone this fall. Wouldn't it make more sense that they would trend the new iPods toward the iPhone design? all the small touch panel orders could just be for the new iPods. Still think this ones a fake though.
I think your right about the small touch panels, I didn't realise there were details of a small panel shipment. Why the hell would Apple bring out the iPhone and then just after (or is it before) global release bring out another less expensive, smaller version. No way, they’d be mad. My money is defiantly on the 6gen iPod before Christmas now. I'd bet also that most of the multi-touch stuff on the iPhone has been brought across from the 6gen iPod not the other way around. As for this video, it looks like a 5gen test to me from way back that got scraped cus of the battery drain. I read on one the Engadget comments of a rumoured micro thumbwheel being developed for the 6gen, so I guess it might have touch-screen and click wheel to maintain its in-the-pocket value. But the screen on this video has no height. Fake.
The Seconds are wrong, look at the 0:14seconds.
Look at clocks, look how the seconds are apart by 1 Second but they are the same time?
Good observation. It seems that when the person flips over to add the second clock, the second hand displayed stops as they scroll down to select the country. For the second they spend doing this, the second clock doesn't sync with the first. Whether this is a bug in the early firmware or it's just a fake remains to be seen.
also, the movement of the second hand would never be smooth; it'd jump from second to second.
I have a Timex watch that can set times for more than one zone upto the second. Maybe it's the same here...
second hands on expensive watches don't jump from second to second, they have a constant sweep.
To answer the question Engadget posted; sometimes a company wants something pulled not because it is real, but because perhaps it might set false expectations (positive or negative) for a product. A fake interface can have that impact as well.
ya... thats what i was thinking... i applaud them for taking time to do this, but its actually pretty ugly at best... i definatly would not but an ipod like this
Indeed. Other people have mentioned that it might be real, but an early design mockup (which would make sense, since it does look like a sort of earlier rough UI concept, as opposed to a finish product).
The real question is, who really has any need for a world clock? A lot of time in the video dedicated to a feature that 99% of the people will have no use for
I'm not completely against what is shown here, I could see taking a few in directions similar to this making the iPod more attractive in presentation, though with the lack of CoverFlow I can't really buy it. Apple is pushing CoverFlow through 10.5 and iPhone, it's something I think we'll see here too.
The next un-Apple-like feature is the battery life icon and menubar inconsistently shrinking and extending (just to show only part of an album cover?), its not something a company familiar with great UI would have a user searching for with their eyes every screen.
Nice mockup but I agree with others. That isn't real. As Zadillo said, it is probably an early design, probably many of the release candidates.
Personally, I'd just like my media player to do just that: play media. All of this eyecandy is getting obnoxious.
Not to mention draining precious battery life.
That video was a complete waste of time.
I'm more interested in the Beatles music being available than the interface change.
More interested in the Beatles music being available? *cough* Ever heard of Brick and Mortar?
I'm really looking forward to a 6G iPod (an ipod with the look of the iphone) but if this turned out to be it, I'd stick with my 5G.
The "split screens" looks a bit ugly and almost every screen showed noticeable slowdown. I don't see why they would go out of their way to create a new ipod interface when the iPhone is the "best ipod ever".
It also seems as if the interface in the video is the same size as the existing ipod - you'd think they would move to a widescreen/touchscreen one.
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Whoever created this mock up clearly didn't research very well or did it on purpose. Look at the album list.
And it lists only a few African cities. With Mac OS X and iPhone OS X both with a well-worn clock app there is no need for these other cities to not be included unless the developer of the fake was lazy.
The most likely scenario is that uses the same aspect ratio as the iPhone (if not the same size) and has the same basic functionality and look. This fake has neither.
We should all see the home screen have seperate buttons for Video, Music, and Podcats since its main purpose is as an iPod.
Apple pulled this video for the reasons proven by the comments above. People become skeptical of the new iPod and ruins the new iPod's image.
More importantly this video would state that the "new" Ipod is NOT touch screen as you don't see any fingers in the video.
Haha this cracks me up you guys debating so many things in this video to determine if it's real when there is one shining thing that proves there is no way Apple had anything to do with this. There is no track on the album Love by the beatles titled Across the Universe. I have the album, I've listened to it so many times and if you need further examination, here's the wiki article with all the tracks listed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_%28The_Beatles_album%29
Could not be more fake. Apple had nothing to do with this one.
If you look at the way the interface is set up, it seems fairly obvious that it's for the regular ipod click wheel. For example, the add/delete slider for the world clock app only makes sense if you scroll to either option and click a hardware button to choose. Slightly prettier looking than the regular ipod menus, but probably not much more practical. This is not a comment on the validity of their claims, just that either apple's new ipod won't have touch screens, or that some speculative faker thinks they won't.
It's FAKE!!!
There are a millions flaws and faults in the video.
I don't think Apple pulled the video because its the real interface. They probably had it pulled because it shows a Beatles album, which they don't have a license to use.
Perhaps engadget should spin off a sistersite 'applegadget.com', assuming appletoadies.com is taken already :x
I'm sure if you and all your contacts live happily in some swamp nobody ever leaves, you will have no need for a world clock. Most other people like to know what time it is elsewhere every now and then.
As for the video - naaah, does not look like something Apple would let out of the door.
everyones doubts about the Seconds and the clock are only partly correct...
if you are in Mac osx Dashboard and drop 3 or 4 of those world clocks onto it, nearly every clock ticks different... of course they should all be perfectly the same... and perhaps it's the same "error" on this iPod.
imo the "bigger" error is that they both state 5:55 am and some of the beatles songs are completly wrong... and every recent fake had at least a beatles cover or song playing to tease everyone and let them go "omg the beatles are finally coming to the itms!! - oh and look at the new iphone mini-3G-supernano, kewl!"
i don't know but MacRumors either had to remove the videos because they got a C&D order or because they trapped into a hoax...
It's obviously rather easy to fake such a video if you have mediocre photoshop/aftereffects/motion/whatever skills...
let's sit and wait... we'll see :)
Still no drag-and-drop support for iPod , Apple? Thanks, I'll pass.
haha, the infamous b3atle love bug
This is not news.
It would be news if the 6G iPod did NOT strongly resemble the iPhone.
Personally...It wouldn't make sense that Apple would deviate from their current UI for the iPod, Clock, etc. applications on the iPhone, which in my opinion are beautiful. I will guarantee that this video is a fake and Apple more than likely removed it because they didn't want to let customers down. I know these sentiments are echoed above, so sorry for the repeat. One thing I would like to see... is that with the launch of these new iPods, the release of The Beatles work. I think this would make for a nice marketing move for my generation (28) as well as older. The iPhone is so easy to use that my grandmother and parents were easily able to make calls and listen to music. I think this could be the BEST iPod yet. I can't wait!
Tangent: I do want to figure out why Apple has left the drag and drop function in favor of sync. This does not make me a happy camper.
Does this really mean that Paul McCartney is dead?
You are the Eggman.
I am the Walrus.
The battery meter is inconsistent between the various 'screens', which is strange.
I think it is not fake.
- The UI has kind of feel what Apple would make without been copied straight from iPhone.
- The Beatles iTunes deal would make great addition to new 6G iPod launch.
- Internet is full of different iPod mock-ups. Apple has never paid attention to rumours or mockups if there's not something to it.
What is wrong with you people, do you read any of the comments before you put your own irrelevant thoughts out there wasting people's times saying pointless things like "aw geez i sure am darned excited to see them beatles on the apple itunes, it sure as heck makes my day" when if its apple WHY THE HELL WOULD THEY HAVE BOGUS BEATLES SONGS UNDER THE LOVE ALBUM. Look at the tracks listed under the Love album by the beatles. I posted this hours ago and I have to remind you all again that it's completely fake because none of those beatles songs have anything to do with that album. Stop wasting your time, NONE OF THIS MEANS THE BEATLES WILL BE ON ITUNES CUZ THAT ALBUM LISTING ON THE IPOD IS BOGUS!!!
i can not believe that these so called computer geeks can't tell that this was cartoon for advertising. anyway the ablum is a fake. it is just a commerical to show what the stupid product can do.
god, you people a stupid!!!!!!
no wonder you spend so much time on the web. because in real life you wouldn't make a hill of shit!
I like how the video spends the most time on the world clock, as if anyone gives a crap about that feature. What a truly worthless video.
Sixth generation and still using the 1 dimensional navigation huh? This is consistently reviewed as the single feature that Zune does better than iPod, why not fix it?
Before a developer spends a lot of time coding a new interface, you have people that prototype what an interface might look like. An interface designer would probably build this in Photoshop and After Effects. It doesn't have to be perfection, it just has to impart how the interface might work and what it looks like.
There is no way to know if it's real or fake, but if it is real, I'm sure this is an early prototype.
although i dont think this is real.... i will laugh my ass off of the ones who are "so smart that is obvious to them that this is fake" if this turns out to be it but had a lot of bugs.
in the mean time, enjoy being "smart"....
This video means absolutely nothing, except it was able to get a lot of vile responses on pure speculation. Nobody here knows anything for certain about the next iPod, except for the fact that there will be many tens of millions sold throughout the world. Whatever interface the next iPod uses, it will be head and shoulders above all the other media players.
Apple + iPod = $$$Ker-ching$$$. On the way to $200 a share. Thanks to all for supporting the buzz and hype.
Does this mean the Beatles will be added to iTunes?
I think thats even better!
Regardless of whether this video is real or not...this video is so ugly it has tainted the next 5 Gens of iPods.
It might be real but will the 6gen iPod blend, cus the iPhone does,
mmmmmm iPhone smoothy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihpxJI4hRjQ&NR=1
It is Apple's policy to neither confirm nor deny any rumors, whether they be true or false. Apple will vigorously take action against fake rumors as they would against real leaks. This makes it tougher to distinguish the accurate rumors from the fakes, giving Apple the element of surprise
I'd prefer a 5G iPod to this laggy interface.
Here's why I think it's fake:
-bogus Beatles songs
-weird different menubars and changing battery meters - even in the same 'shot'
-Clocks - you'll notice for a second that Addis Abba is showing 10:55 when it's supposed to be 5:55, and then they start overtaking/overlapping eachother.
-4:3 interface... still
well, its not 16x9, it looks like SHIT compared to the iPhone UI, and really its not all that different from the 4 and 5 g ipods at all.
It just doesnt seem "new" enough to be the iPods new interface, especially with that beautiful iPhone interface out.
if i had to guess, then the new ipod will strongly resemble the iphone.
FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE!
Wow, Engadget...
This is FAKE.
First off, it was obviously made in FLASH.
Second, the BATTERY LIFE changes in the "Now Playing" movie when they go from menu mode to fullscreen mode.
Third, Apple would never design something in which the song list has a font way bigger than the menu title font.
Fourth, the clock is terribly designed... Look at the placement of the numbers on the clock.
Fifth, the songs on the Beatles' albums are way messed up. (Look up the album on Amazon to view the track list.)
Wow, I can't believe you guys posted this.
http://www.digg.com/apple/The_Supposed_6G_iPod_GUI_is_for_the_iPod_NANO_not_the_Regular_iPod
Video was taken down by Apple legal. Historically, they don't take down false information. The GUI is for the Nano, not the regular iPod.
Those songs aren't the songs on Love.
Across The Universe isn't there along with half of the songs it shows.
I would say this is fake, everyone has commented on everything, yes the world clock really gives it away as the second hands are always the same, in every world clock application not just with apple products,
but has no-one noticed that the two cities display the exact same time when he goes to select Addis...?? looks like a big indication he used the same image for when the clock is selected and didn't change the time on it
TO EVERYONE MOANING ABOUT CLOCKS second hands. Open dashboard and drag two world clocks on to the screen, yep the second hands dont match
on the ipod they match, on the iphone they match, and on osx they match.
what world clocks are you using??
That has to be one of the dumbest comments I have ever read. You state that it is not their interface, but that they pulled it because they (the company who did not make the interface) does not have rights to use the image being shown in the interface which is not theirs?
WTF?
That has to be one of the dumbest comments I have ever read. You state that it is not their interface, but that they pulled it because they (the company who did not make the interface) does not have rights to use the image being shown in the interface which is not theirs?
WTF?
Bloody hell that was quick! Looks like apples pulled the video! Did anyone think to mirror it?
It's floating around the other video hosting sites, I'm sure.
In fact, I'm postive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnE_1DXfJkA