Xbox 360 price drop revealed in Wal-mart brochure?
By Paul Miller 
posted Jul 28th 2007 1:40PM
posted Jul 28th 2007 1:40PM
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I'll wait and see. If this drops, I would assume the Elite would drop a bit as well. A black elite would look so much nicer in my living room, and since I cant see buying either HD format yet I would welcome the added storage space for HD movies from the marketplace.
Damn i bought my elite from circuit city 2 weeks ago. ihope they do some thing like BB does if the price drops!
So, what happens when the Halo edition comes out? Are retailers gonna stock all 4 SKUs:
Core
Premium
Elite
Halo Edition
And, they cant drop the price of the Premium without price drops across the line.
I don't think they will have all 4 SKUs. From what I understand, the Halo Edition is a limited one, and the Core may be phased out (it's already not being sold in Australia if that's any indication). They may keep 3, but they may also drop Core and run with Premium and Elite.
At any rate, still not as confusing as Sony's lineup. The 80GB in North America was vehemently denied before it was announced. Then the price drop was vehemently denied before it was announced. They should just say 'no comment' rather than going out of their way to deny things, only to announce them a day or two later.
They are going to keep the core to compete price wise with the Wii. The Halo console will probably only be available in limited quantities for this holiday season alongside Halo 3. I assume all consoles are going to see a $50 drop, makes sense.
$249 core, $349 premium, $399 Halo edition, $429 Elite
it's actually a 50 dollar price increase to the core model.
lol yeah right. And you can see in the picture its not a core. (chrome tray)
But where's the HDD??? I think killerpanda611 is right about this one. =]
There's no wire on the remote, and that one is the clearest one to see.
meh, PS3 has blu-ray, enough said.
yeah you're right, that is enough said. Blu-ray does suck
Doesn't really HAVE bluray, it pretty much IS bluray. And unless they find a way to upgrade it, its not even to bluray 1.1 standard (I haven't read that it even CAN be upgraded). Not sure how much I care about that, but I have been bit by the "early adopter" bite before and don't really care to again. I think I will wait a bit before I buy any HD player.
You're absolutely right! I mean why the hell would I want BD+? It does suck. =)
Yeah these guys are totally right, blu-ray does suck considering BJ's Wholesale, Target, AND Blockbuster have DROPPED HD-DVD and gone Blu-ray exclusive...
Actually Target isnt bluray exclusive checkout 1up.com or even the target website
PS3 is better IMO, and this is coming from a 360 Elite, Wii and PS3 owner.
I suppose you like it because it has way more games? Or maybe because it has exclusive titles like GTA4? Or maybe you like it because of its backwards compatibility being perfectly operable?
Better at what? Being a doorstop?
Better at what? Being a doorstop?
No, yours and millions of RRoDed Xbox 360s are more suited being doorstops. You asked for it.
Um, have you seen Xbox's holiday lineup?
Sorry, but it has the best lineup.
Lost Odyssey
Stuntman
Black Site
Halo 3
Mass Effect
Bio Shock
Blue Dragon
Army of Two
I could go on and on, but my wallet hurts everytime I think about it.
The only broke Xbox 360's are the ones that are owned by morons....being that MS fixes them for free. I look at my own red ring of death experience as a hiccup that happened a long time ago and hasn't had any problem since. Its really a non issue, in my opinion. What I have now is a great gaming system with a shit-ton of great games and many more right around the corner.
Hardly a "doorstop"
@Johnathan:
Wow, including Stuntman in your list and using non-exlusives like Army of Two (also on PS3)?
The PS3's exclusives:
Heavenly Sword
Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction
LittleBigPlanet
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
Pain
Lair
Gran Turismo 5
WarHawk
Metal Gear Solid 4
@Mike
Thank you!
Hey, Sy, at least they didn't buy a doorstop.
My Xbox is far from one, and unless I get the RROD, then it won't be. At least it has some use out of the box, unlike our little friend, the PS3.
As you guessed, I am one with a launch console that hasn't ever had the red rings or any hiccups at all. On my original Xbox 360, and will stay like that until the next Xbox is released (not just a different SKU).
Wii's only $249!!
and what a great deal it is for the fun factor in comparison.
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http://www.HowToGetFreeWiiPoints.com
I agree. The PS3 is one slick machine. Has performed flawlessly for me. I use it now to play CDs, DVDs, and BDs. And games!
And games, he says.
Plays games once it gets some! Oh, but I'm just joking. I'll be buying a PS3 sometime if they get a cheaper SKU out and once some of the better games are released.
Hopefully a 349 Premium will result in something in the area of a 399 Elite. As a Wii owner, I'm not getting a 360 or PS3 until the following conditions are met.
PS3-
PERMANENT (as in not clearence sale) price drop
MGS4
360-
No more Red Rings
Price Drop on Elite
A good game to look forward to that's NOT Halo (this due to the fact that I utterly hate Halo)
There's a tons of good games coming out for the 360...
Bioshock
Mass Effect
and many more
Lol, a TON of games!! And he lists... two?
To add to the list...
Gears of War,
Forza Motorsports 2,
Crackdown
So what, I can get a carton of eggs for $0.82
(Might as well get more off topic since 4-5 comments in this already became how Blu-Ray is awesome/awful. Blu-Ray and 360 price drop... don't really see the relevance)
Hah, awesome.
That reminds me of some rant i saw about gas prices not being as bad as we think because other liquids, like milk, are already like $4 a gallon, so gas is a relatively cheap liquid in comparison... Which is rediculous because aside from being the same class of matter, they have pretty much nothing in common... It's like saying gold is cheap because diamonds are more expensive, or, well, anything else dumb and crazy.
So i agree, why should we care how much these things are when a carton of eggs is so much cheaper!
-Taylor
What do you mean the exif data checks out? You think the only reason for something to go through photoshop is for retouching/faking something? what about a crop or resize? and exif data is editable anyway so it doesn't mean a thing.
I always thought that bringing up EXIF when talking about a pictures legitimacy is pretty dumb. It's about the equivalent of an ID3 tag on an MP3 - very easy to edit. And especially when people say 'oh, it has Adobe® Photoshop™ in the EXIF, it must be fake'. You can do a lot more in Adobe® Photoshop than just create fake images.
It's fake, look at all the other prices, they all have some amount of cents after the price, the 360 just says $349. They always add .99 at the end of prices.
good call man i think you are right..........although i would hope for a price drop eventually. a few of my friends are on the fringe about getting a 360 and this would put them over the top to get one......i hope......
wow. i was just about to put that. i can't believe nobody else caught that. its the first thing i saw.
I am the master, enjoy my pics!
Are you serrious dude? That's your comeback?
Have you ever wondered why CD Tracks take up 40 MB on the CD and when you rip it to Mp3 its about 4 MB?
This is just a different "codec" being used to format the same data. It explains why there are so many multiplatform games which are all basically ports of eachother. And people still say they look better on the 360.
Also, I doubt that the evergrowing list of multiplatform games are just old HD versions since they usually are released for PS3 aswell.
Besides, last time I checked PS3 was losing game developers' intrest for exclusive titles and thats why they only have about 8 so far. The list of those "anticipated" PS3 hits remains a list, with limitied (in any) release info.
http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2007/06/17/console-exclusive-games-list-for-xbox-360-ps3-and-wii-as-of-june-2007.htm
Blu-Ray is not bad for a 10 year old format, especially since we have such high capacity disks available nowadays, but the PS3 still sucks for games and online.
I love how these people are obviously bating the Xbox 360 fanboys and are laughing their asses off at how big-a-swipe you're taking at these obvious trolls. Guys, lighten up, trolls, gtfo and go back to gaiaonline.
The price drop sounds good, but I sure hope this will expand over to Europe, which I think it will... They haven't priced the 360 Elite over here yet and this price drop seems to be going ahead before August 24th... Which is fantastic for Bioshock, gets released the same day as the Elite comes out. $$$ in Insomiac's pocket~.
Im sorry, but you cannot state that somehow no matter what, you are able to take 50Gb of data and squeeze it through the magic of "codecs" into 9Gb, ive heard this before and it is bs. Even with that logic then can you not use the same magic "codecs" to bring more data to Bluray? no matter what bluray has the potential to increase game size 5 fold. And new "next next gen" games are using increasing amounts of data, like id's new game engine they demod at E3, so called "texture engine" is using high res texture files on all surfaces, in there initial demo they showed a motorstorm type racing game in photorealistic graphics, in an interview saying that this game would occupy "25-35Gb" aside from more capacity Bluray has a transfer rate of 54mps while dvd is 11mps, this is another huge difference for load times and the amount of data in a 30 second load is dramatically different. Im not biased, Im just giving you the numbers. Bluray is a huge asset to PS3's hardware, and unlike 360's hddvd drive, it can actually be used for games.
there is 0 potential for blu ray to offer bigger game because the same game can be made on the 360 with multiple discs if they wanted. THATS RIGHT!!!!! the technology does exsist to create multi-disc game. And before you make a negative comment about mult-disk, try to remember those final fantasy games on the playstation that spanned like 4 Cds.
blu ray is region coded, less use of better codecs like vc1 compared to hd-dvd, no mandatory eathernet port for firmware updates like hd-dvd, costs more, and their intereactive feature is not even complete yet, so certain features of future dics wont even work in your ps3/ current stand alone blu ray player. Blu-ray is also flooded with more drm thenn hd-dvd. blu-ray is the studio choice. But your a consme. And hd-dvd is the consumers choice.
Mike, So if multi-disc is the answer, why aren't we all using 7,000 5 1/4" dics to play the latest and greatest? You fail.
Your math is wrong. The PS3 is a 2x Blu-ray drive at a speed of 72Mbits/s constant. The 360 is a 12x DVD drive at a speed 66Mbit/s - 132Mbit/s. So, most of the time the 360 drive is faster. There's also the chance that due to the larger capacity of blu-ray media that developers will utilize it (outside of fmv) and thusly increase load times even more.
Well i'm really happy to see if the xbox will have a pricedrop. I'll be waiting until august 8th wich will be the day of truth. So we'll see then.
Walmart or Circuit City? If we can't even count on the store to be correct how can we count on the price point to be accurate?
my 360 is a beast! its not given me one probeeelem, none, zip, its nice, i had a ps3 but the drive kept on killing my disk's, no matter what way i put it in, and the games are ok but just pathetic and the price just about enough to give you a hard gut felling you just made a big mistake. so i went with M$ and im happy i like the XBL thing they got going on, NOw just if they can port a windows vista over to 360 or sumthin that be awesome.
to bungie.net BRING BACK HALO 2 CLAN MATCHES BAcK!!!
The ad is fake for several reasons.
1.)This isn't a Wal Mart magazine, it's from Circuit City
2.)Notice how everything has CENTS after the dollar value such as the Wii priced at 249.99. The Xbox 360 is just $349.
3. Why is the picture so tiny?
1. Take a look at the Walmart ad in today's paper. You will see the same orange background with the same font.
2. Also in today's paper - see the PS2 add, you'll see that its listed at $129 (with the "$" and no ".99") you'll notice that all of the products that are .xx do not have "$"
I think this is legit.
Another thing about prices at Wal-mart, go into one and look at the televisions. None of them have any change, it's all $XXX.00. So it's possible they could have decided to just go the same way with the 360 as they did with the TVs.
Well Im pretty sure its a price cut for the premium and not a mark up for the core sku. I think this because there is no real reason for Microsoft to increase the price at all. The reason why it most likely is a price cut for the premium system is because of the fact that Microsoft has changed the chipset to the much cheaper and more efficent Falcon chips.
As for a price cut for the Elite and Halo 3 SKUs, i doubt there will be a price cut for those. Mainly because those systems were intended for hardcore gamers and the whole idea of Microsoft's pricecut is to make the Premium at a more mass market price like the Wii (basically an attempt to get sales away from the Wii).
Not that I hate the PS3 or anything but there pricecut was actually a liquidation (no more production of 60gb), so I would rather the 360. In addition to that none of the PS3 games (currently or on the way) run at 60 fps, instead they run at 30 fps which isnt very high definition. This is mainly because of difficulty for developers whereas the 360 has a vast assortment of high def 60 frames per second games.
However I do think that within time the ps3 will be as good as it was supposed to be as long as Sony can get enough solid exclusive games (not exclusivity that lasts only a few months - like Resident Evil 5 and others which are going on the 360).
Until then if you have a ps3 get an Xbox 360 so you dont have to worry about games or high definition content. Because if you have both or just a 360 your alrite, but only having a ps3 is just gonna end with disappointment or just owning the same 5 good games(Resistence, Killzone, Heavenly Sword, etc.) for a long time until they get scratched, old, or dusty.
So there you have it either system is entertaining but if your only into gaming ur best off with a 360, blu-ray = a ps3(well actually you can get a blu ray player for cheaper than a ps3), loading operating systems = ps3, online play = 360, control w/out rumble= ps3.
since when does the ps3 have more games than the 360. And GTA4 is not a ps3 exclusive its coming to the 360 with more exclusive downloadable content then the ps3, get your facts straight.
Actually Metal Gear Solid 4 is only an exclusive to the PS3 for a few months after that a Konami is putting it on the 360 instead of Kojima, his succesors will take over the franchise and put it on the 360. If you don't believe me check out 1up.com or some other gaming site.
Why is there an obvious smudge mark next to the 9 for the price of the xbox 360??? As I remember, all Walmart ads have cent marks BELOW 99¢. Usually like 88 or 84 or something near these amounts. FAKE oc
More games run better on 360 than PS3 because of 360 head start with next gen. Companies are using 360 for developement tools, then ported into PS3, Wii,... Last gen developement was done mostly on PS2, so I would choose PS2 because better optimization. Unless, the game is only for 1 console release, it's better to get 360. I know, I work in the industry.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/MechDX/imagejpeg0copyvf2.jpg
ToysRus ad
Exactly, there is now a Wal-mart ad, a Circuit City ad and a TRU ad all showing the $349 price.
Its confirmed.
The Xbox 360 has a 33% failure rate:
http://www.dailytech.com/Retailers+Estimate+Xbox+360+Failure+Rate+High+as+33+Percent/article7892.htm
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=xbox+failure+rate&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
"the 5 min heavenly sword demo is for 1 gb...each level of killzone 2 is for 2-2.5 gb
yea u guys r right....blu-ray does suck.....we just need 9 gb....so that we can be HD versions of old games
40 mins of heavenly sword and 3-4 levels of killzone 2!!!!
blu-ray sucks...end of story
:)
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Clearly, you are not very familiar with programming and the nuances of game demos.
I'm surprised that Microsoft skipped the opportunity to market the XBox 360 for $360. "Now the 360 is actually 360!"
Cmon man, you gotta learn the basics when stating something like that.
The "codec" aspect that Davey Jones mentioned is perfectly true. And I'll agree that the PS3 doesn't suck, but it does lack games and the enhancement of gamplay thru a decent online service such as XBL.
"ROCKSTAR is making an exclusive for the ps3 which they have officially stated is not possible without the cell and other ps3 features." --- Yeah I totaly agree thats possible, but keep in mind the amount of data and calculations you are dealing with.
Same thing with a computer, If you open up a pic in PhotoShop and save it with the highest settings, you can have a resulting picture of upwards of 50mb, which is very useless and inconvenient.
Sure if you have the best computer it will open relativley fast, wheras an midrange/older computer it can take 5 minutes or crash.
Lets remember that the PS3 has 2 teraflops of power and 360 has one, BUT the PS3 has 5x more data to precess from the blu-ray based games.
I have donwloaded and watched trailer for the new GTA coming for 360, it is amazing and it was based on actual gameplay. It is supposed to have a huge new map aswell.
So how do you justify your Blu-Ray arguement? Just stop trying to win blog battles and simply enjoy gaming, with whatever system makes you sleep at night..
Why does everyone keep talking about August 8th? Toys R Us puts out a flier every two weeks as far as I can tell on Sundays. Speaking with a sales clerk the other day she confirmed their new add will be out this Sunday. That makes it August 5th. Also, Toys R Us just ran a special last week which gave a free $50 gift card for a purchase of a 360. Seems at least a little odd with the upcoming price drop. Were they just trying to see how well it would sell at that price??
Did anyone else's Walmart not drop their prices today (the 8th), despite the price showing up on walmart.com?