Sorry oGMo, you're reaching too hard.. And its making you look stupid. I brought my 360 for 1 thing.. ONE. -To play Next-Gen GAMES.
-I didn't need a WiFi plug.
-I Had like 3 DVD players in my house, 1 that stores 5. Why switch to a new format?
-I can afford Xbox Live... MILLIONS play WOW and pay a MONTHLY fee to play ONE GAME. I pay $50.00 A YEAR to play AS MANY GAMES AS I WANT. $50 BUCKS!
"Compared to a $2000 TV or $8000+ in games over the life of the console? Compared to dropping $500-2000 every few years on a PC? You can install Linux on the PS3 ... a box that plays all the latest games *and* runs Linux/OpenOffice/etc and even plays HD movies for $600 is hardly a bad deal. Comparable features on other consoles are even more $$. I think we've been past the price point thing for awhile now. Quit whining."
And you wanna cry about $50 Bucks??!?!? -I think we've been past the $50.00 Live fee thing for awhile now. You Quit whining.
"Plus how much a year for Live? $20? I think someone said that with a 5-year system lifetime, you'd pay $100 for Live, so... toss another $100 on there. And STILL no benefit to games for having the HD-DVD player."
Seriously, you have the nerve to say all that... Pitiful. -you just made yourself look REAL STUPID.
BD on the PS3 has little to do with movies (though once you have an HDTV and a PS3, you'll want to see a few, because they look amazingly better). It's all about capacity. Killzone 2 has amazing detail, but levels are 2GB apiece. On an 8GB DVD, you could fit *three* (as you need some left over for code and other assets). You want to play a 3-level game?
As for $50/yr (I underestimated at $20, then... a 5-year lifespan would put that at an extra $250), we're comparing base console costs here, so while Sony may charge you $500-$600 up front, they're not charging you an extra $250 as you go later. Who's shady now?
And the HD-DVD player STILL doesn't benefit games. You want to talk about games? Let's get back to space-deprived asset-poor 360 discs. Assets aren't just about graphics (textures, models). It's about the whole level. All the interactive little parts. Voice acting, music. This is why high-capacity media is cool, and why it's important for next-gen games.
I agree with oGMo, BD gives a lot of freedom to game-makers, while 360 programmers are restricted to DVD because they have to make the games available for all 360s.
Also, HB96st, your argument about WOW is completely irrelevant here. WOW is an MMO, and paying $15/mo for a game you can only play online is way different from using the 360's online multiplayer for a few rounds of [insert favorite shooter here]. For someone like me, I play FPS games occaisonally, and I would not waste $50 a year just so I can occaisionally join an online match. What does greatly appeal to me is offering this for free, which is what PC games have been offering since their inception (remember Battle.net? Free!) and what the PS3 does.
Also, the only reason I bought a PS3 was because I have an HDTV. If I didn't, I would have no use for a PS3. My PC plays Half-Life 2 at 1024x768 and 4xAA above 60fps, so HD was the only way gaming could get better for me. BD movies are incredible, and really make the PS3 worth every penny.
I agree with oGMo, BD gives a lot of freedom to game-makers, while 360 programmers are restricted to DVD because they have to make the games available for all 360s.
Also, HB96st, your argument about WOW is completely irrelevant here. WOW is an MMO, and paying $15/mo for a game you can only play online is way different from using the 360's online multiplayer for a few rounds of [insert favorite shooter here]. For someone like me, I play FPS games occaisonally, and I would not waste $50 a year just so I can occaisionally join an online match. What does greatly appeal to me is offering this for free, which is what PC games have been offering since their inception (remember Battle.net? Free!) and what the PS3 does.
Also, the only reason I bought a PS3 was because I have an HDTV. If I didn't, I would have no use for a PS3. My PC plays Half-Life 2 at 1024x768 and 4xAA above 60fps, so HD was the only way gaming could get better for me. BD movies are incredible, and really make the PS3 worth every penny.
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Sorry oGMo, you're reaching too hard.. And its making you look stupid. I brought my 360 for 1 thing.. ONE. -To play Next-Gen GAMES.
-I didn't need a WiFi plug.
-I Had like 3 DVD players in my house, 1 that stores 5. Why switch to a new format?
-I can afford Xbox Live... MILLIONS play WOW and pay a MONTHLY fee to play ONE GAME. I pay $50.00 A YEAR to play AS MANY GAMES AS I WANT. $50 BUCKS!
"Compared to a $2000 TV or $8000+ in games over the life of the console? Compared to dropping $500-2000 every few years on a PC? You can install Linux on the PS3 ... a box that plays all the latest games *and* runs Linux/OpenOffice/etc and even plays HD movies for $600 is hardly a bad deal. Comparable features on other consoles are even more $$. I think we've been past the price point thing for awhile now. Quit whining."
And you wanna cry about $50 Bucks??!?!? -I think we've been past the $50.00 Live fee thing for awhile now. You Quit whining.
"Plus how much a year for Live? $20? I think someone said that with a 5-year system lifetime, you'd pay $100 for Live, so... toss another $100 on there. And STILL no benefit to games for having the HD-DVD player."
Seriously, you have the nerve to say all that... Pitiful. -you just made yourself look REAL STUPID.
-Oh, with my assistance!
LMAO
BD on the PS3 has little to do with movies (though once you have an HDTV and a PS3, you'll want to see a few, because they look amazingly better). It's all about capacity. Killzone 2 has amazing detail, but levels are 2GB apiece. On an 8GB DVD, you could fit *three* (as you need some left over for code and other assets). You want to play a 3-level game?
As for $50/yr (I underestimated at $20, then... a 5-year lifespan would put that at an extra $250), we're comparing base console costs here, so while Sony may charge you $500-$600 up front, they're not charging you an extra $250 as you go later. Who's shady now?
And the HD-DVD player STILL doesn't benefit games. You want to talk about games? Let's get back to space-deprived asset-poor 360 discs. Assets aren't just about graphics (textures, models). It's about the whole level. All the interactive little parts. Voice acting, music. This is why high-capacity media is cool, and why it's important for next-gen games.
I agree with oGMo, BD gives a lot of freedom to game-makers, while 360 programmers are restricted to DVD because they have to make the games available for all 360s.
Also, HB96st, your argument about WOW is completely irrelevant here. WOW is an MMO, and paying $15/mo for a game you can only play online is way different from using the 360's online multiplayer for a few rounds of [insert favorite shooter here]. For someone like me, I play FPS games occaisonally, and I would not waste $50 a year just so I can occaisionally join an online match. What does greatly appeal to me is offering this for free, which is what PC games have been offering since their inception (remember Battle.net? Free!) and what the PS3 does.
Also, the only reason I bought a PS3 was because I have an HDTV. If I didn't, I would have no use for a PS3. My PC plays Half-Life 2 at 1024x768 and 4xAA above 60fps, so HD was the only way gaming could get better for me. BD movies are incredible, and really make the PS3 worth every penny.
I agree with oGMo, BD gives a lot of freedom to game-makers, while 360 programmers are restricted to DVD because they have to make the games available for all 360s.
Also, HB96st, your argument about WOW is completely irrelevant here. WOW is an MMO, and paying $15/mo for a game you can only play online is way different from using the 360's online multiplayer for a few rounds of [insert favorite shooter here]. For someone like me, I play FPS games occaisonally, and I would not waste $50 a year just so I can occaisionally join an online match. What does greatly appeal to me is offering this for free, which is what PC games have been offering since their inception (remember Battle.net? Free!) and what the PS3 does.
Also, the only reason I bought a PS3 was because I have an HDTV. If I didn't, I would have no use for a PS3. My PC plays Half-Life 2 at 1024x768 and 4xAA above 60fps, so HD was the only way gaming could get better for me. BD movies are incredible, and really make the PS3 worth every penny.