Apple, Vodafone discussing iPhone minutiae?
By Darren Murph 
posted August 17th 2007 1:38PM
posted August 17th 2007 1:38PM
- Vodafone wants the YouTube application to "work much more like the Internet version."
- Improvements to Outlook and Exchange support
- Improved security and firewalls
- Tweaks to Apple's WEP and WPA security key requirements
- Web browser improvements, namely, the ability to simply "cut and paste"
I finally got to see one in Canada. I've been to Walden Galleria to check one out in a store but someone came into my work with one and let me play with it for a while... now I want it even more... C'mon Rogers (or Apple.. who ever is holding it up)
If this is really true than i'm impressed... I always assumed all these details revolved solely around money but this seems more user oriented!
Utter rubbish, why would Vodafone want these improvements. The only thing they are interested in is "how much cash will it make us...."
Another "s**t I can post anything and people will read it..."
Ya, I'm calling BS on this "rumor" as these are all end-user improvements. Too me it sounds like any other jaded iPhone owner or iPhone hater's list of things that are wrong with the phone.
At least if you're making a "rumor" throw something in there that would suggest that corporations are making the deals, not new age hipsters.
Mike
Uhm, why would Vodafone care about thing like copy paste? Just because the phone is on their network, doesn't mean they have to use it.
Agreed... I think some loser took it upon themselves to bring up a wish list that he (and many of us) would like to see on the Apple iPhone.
I have the phone, and let me tell you, regardless of what Apple wants, the phone companies are still going to make a crapload of money (crapload is sort of metric).
Such a stupid article. Nothing like this is a LEAK. It's just somebody with a poor imagination retouching everything that has been said since the beginning.
Because reports from "over the pond" probably get exaggerated and they think it'll be a flop without copy-paste and the other improvements.
I hope Vodafone can get Apple to add these improvements quickly, and that Apple releases the improvements as an update for current U.S. customers.
Each feature requested seems to be a win-win for Apple, anyway.
I was really depressed when I couldn't find any of my own videos on the iPhones youtube.
Have you tried uploading it using the new iMovie 08? I noticed the YouTube feature on the sharing menu (have not tried it) and wondered if it shot it off to YouTube in an iPhone Friendly version.
I hope Vodafone don't want to change the colors of iPhone to their disgusting red and blue.
What about Sweden?! We don't have Vodafone!!
Lucky you!
Now was Sweden on the European release-list anyway? Can't remember :/
Ah but we have what is left of Vodafone, Telenor :-D
Telenor actually have pretty nice graphics etc. so i wouldn't have too much trouble with that :-)
Who are you and what have you done with the real Vodafone?
YouTube will be totally in sync with the Web on iPhone only by year's end.
And why the hell would Vodafone want to have YouTube work "just like on the Web" as a condition for a deal? That sounds kinda unreal. Like they do care about anything else than just $$$ in their coffers. Yeah, right.
Wow, I have to hand it to Vodaphone. If those are the things they're really holding out for, I'm all for the wait. That said, I should probably mention I'm here in the US so, well, the wait is actually over for me...
That's great but where is the love for Canadians that want iPhones?
i really want to see apple put in flash and java plugin.
I agree with Greg, above: Jobs said "North America Launch", and it turns out that only you lucky Yanks got 'em.
And add to that the fact that it's impossible to find any current iPhone Canada news just about anywhere on the web.
Though I suppose it's a moot point - when it finally comes up here to the Great White North, it's gonna be on Rogers, and a healthy wager says it'll cost $200/month just for a 10mb data plan.
When Apple finally exports us the God-Phone, can you also get them to send a competent Telco? That'd be great.
Not *quite* that bad - Roger's offers 25MB for $60/$7 per MB over - and you can get 500MB for $210/$5 per MB over - but hardly 'unlimited' and hardly 'cheap'.
Unfortunately no one else's plans are particularly better up here. This isn't even an iPhone issue. Blackberries and Windows Mobile phones, not to mention laptops with cell modem cards (and forget HSDPA) can do EDGE and 3G and the plans up here just makes it not worth it. I have all data services locked down on my Wizard because the last thing I need to find out my phone decided to go browse the Internet and stuck me with $3000 phone bill.
Rogers is the only carrier that can carry the iPhone at the moment because the iPhone is GSM and Rogers is the only GSM carrier up here (Fido is owned by Rogers).
Geez, you North Americans are being overcharged for data. Over in China I get 50MB data for CAD$2.70/month (additional options include 800MB for $14/month and 2GB for $28/month). Best of all, overage only runs at 1cent/KB, capped at $56 (including the price of the main data plan).
So, Vodafone wants that Apple close all holes for hackers... and iphone in Europe will have unbreakable firmware.
Very bad sign for europeans.
minutiae is one of the hardest words to spell correctly if you are not thinking about it.
Flash would make gaming on the iPhone night and day difference compared to the simple javascript games we have.
For the love of god Apple, please give me some MMS and Cut and Paste already!!
P.S. Search would be nice also.
I could believe the youtube part since they are advertising it so much in their stores, but the copy and paste? why would they demand that?
If Vodafone get the iPhone, Apple have lost a potential customer in me... they may have a huge network but they brand everything to death and turn off anything that takes away their revenue. Expect a Vodafone iPhone to ship so that everything goes through their dreadful Live! service, and WiFi feature sets will be crippled in favour of the more expensive 3G data services... after all, they strip the Nokia N-series phones of their ability to use VOIP stacks. That's the "not wanting to give up control" of Vodafone. I severely doubt they would want to add anything to benefit the user...
I was hoping on O2 getting it. Their service/support team may be pretty awful but they leave the phones alone, normally on generic firmware and not locked to their network - normally the only thing they add is an O2 startup wallpaper.
lol vodafone ALWAYS locks, and brand everything on their phone, i wouldn't be surprised if i saw a vodafone logo on the iphone as well
I agree with Ian, if it's not on o2 then I'm not interested, I'm a total apple whore but I have to say I'm finally getting fed up with them, I mean don't get me wrong, I would never go back to Windows in a month of sundays!!! buuuut they are starting to get my back up. It's bad enough that its taking an extra 6 months for us brits to be allowed anywhere near one of these things but on vodaphone!!!!!!! NOT ON MY WATCH!!! :p
I've been with o2 for years as quite simply, their coverage cannot be matched. Vodaphone are useless and a real pain in the ass with the requirements they put on manufacturers. I'm not switching networks for no man! I work with different networks and most phones on a day to day basis and no phone is worth a switch to vodaphone I'm afraid, us brits aren't as easily won over with smart gadgets, we like practicability. At the price it's likely to sell for, it's just a fancy show off toy, just not practical yet, especially when you consider we have 3G coverage!
In summary, I only have one thing to say, will it come branded with the vodaphone logo that every other mobile on vodaphone comes with? :p
I do this for you people, I do this for you.
I have wrote this on digg a couple of times, on AI, and I think maybe on here once as well. But what the hay, I'll write it again;
To cut/copy/delete on the iPhone (and yes I wrote it well before that funny video came along) you bring-up the magnifying-glass, position at the starting point, then you add a second finger to the screen - the iPhone senses the second finger, but keeps the magnifier centered with the first finger (it's multi-touch okay) - with the iPhone in 'select' mode and without lifting either of the two fingers, you drag to the end point (the UI highlights the selected piece of text in baby-blue - just like on a computer). When you are certain you have the magnifying-glass positioned correctly at the end point, you lift both fingers (do not worry about lifting one finger first as the iPhone wont allow the other finger to accidentally more the magnifying-glass after the first finger breaks contact), when both fingers are off the screen a cut/copy/delete/cancel dialog pops up with, you choose an option.
To paste, you bring-up the magnifying-glass, position it at the point you want to paste, and tap and release a second finger on the screen (without dragging the magnifying-glass) and a paste/cancel dialog pops up.
Job done, if you read this 'Apple', do it!
P.S. as to not confuse pea-brains like Paris Hilton, when Apple adds this feature through an update, it is set to off by default and Apple then release a new instruction video on Apple.com explaining how-to. "To turn on copy & paste you go to settings..."
I have my saved money for buying Iphone I hope to have it on this Christmas I'll change my actual carrier company for having the best price, I don't want to have a "Hacked" Iphone with all the vodafone (put your favourite carrier here)0 brand. I want Apple on my Iphone!!! :_
It's a shame :(
This is my first post, so please bear with me here.
I, like many others, love the iPhone and think there is great potential for the device. However, I am also troubled by the lack of native third party applications due to Apple’s locked system. I have seen numerous posts from iPhone users begging to have their favorite Mac widgets ported over to the iPhone. While I think that would be great, I don’t see Apple rushing to do this until they can somehow monetize these widgets. Well yesterday, as I checked out Amazon’s new iPhone-specific web portal, it dawned on me that Apple can create a huge revenue stream by getting into the ad business, while also giving us all the other widgets we love so much.
Imagine the following:
You plug your iPhone into your computer one day and discover a new tab called myMall. Under this tab is a listing of popular retailers, whose online stores you’d like to have synced to your iPhone. Think ‘bookmarked,’ but much better because when you next turn on your iPhone you find a button on the home page called myMall. Clicking it leads to a page similar to the home page, but each new button is a native widget for the retailers you’ve chosen to sync with iTunes. Now, the appeal here is the absolute ease and pleasure in maneuvering these widgets to carry out purchases.
Imagine now that you have chosen to sync the Barnes & Noble widget with your iPhone. Then, one day, you’re sitting on the bus and see someone reading a book you have been meaning to read yourself, but kept on forgetting. Well, instead of making yet another mental note, what if you could do the following:
1. Click on your B&N widget.
2. Type in your search into a VERY simple and elegant page.
3. Have all of your results come up in the Cover Flow format, with only product pictures showing. (let’s face it, Cover Flow is great, but wasted on the iPod).
4. Scroll back and forth through the result and click on a cover to make it flip and reveal product details (synopsis, ratings, review, other formats, etc.)
5. Quickly add items to your shopping cart.
6. Pay for your items using one of the credit cards saved on your iTunes (this is already done with songs so it can’t be that difficult to build on), or enter new credit card information.
7. Have your item(s) shipped to an address that is saved in your iTunes account, or enter a new shipping address.
8. Enter a pin number of sorts to confirm my order and finalize the transaction.
I realize the process listed above ‘appears’ long, but anyone can see that the actual use of this ‘widget’ would be as fluid and simple as the google maps interface that is currently present on the iPhone. Further, with something like this generating revenue for Apple they should have a greater incentive to provide the non-retail-oriented widgets (like AIM, To Do Lists, lyrics search) that we all been clamoring for.
That is the idea, and I would love some feedback from any and all on its feasibility and:
1. How it can be refined.
2. The ideal pricing structure between Apple and the participating retailers.
3. Security issues regarding the storage of private financial data on iTunes, and any holes I'm not thinking of right now.
4. How Apple’s relationship with Google can be utilized here.
5. The potential reaction from ad giants such as Google.
6. Possible legal ramifications.
7. A list of stores that would work well as iPhone widgets. Personally, I would love to have the following store widgets on my iPhone: Barnes & Nobel, eBay, JetBlue, 1800Flowers, Nike, Best Buy, Cirtcuit City, Walmart, Apple Store, Game Stop, Puma, Pottery Barn, Ikea, Amazon, Ticketmaster, Yankees (team specific widgets?), Fandango, Moviefone, Gap (simple retailers, but no giants like Macy’s?), Expedia, Hotels.com, Sephora.
8. Oh yeah, good idea or bad idea?
I think this could be a true rumor. I would think that Vodafone would like to have their YouTube 3G services available just like it is on all the other phones. I also expect them to brand the phone Vodafone.
Vodafone will defiantly have to pay a large fee for the iPhone license, so for them to have improvements on the phone doesn't suprise me. They are thinking about getting to sell more of their services ( YouTube web based option ), selling more phones to Business customers ( Outlook and Exchange, Copy + Paste feature ) .
About the security improvements, I don't know about that coming from Vodafone, unless a large customer is really pressing on that, then this could be a reason. But like you say, Vodafone is thinking about money, getting as much money as they can, and they can do that with the improvements of the phone. Better phone, more money. And yeah, I defiantly think it will be a 3G phone Vodafone will press on that.
Why does anyone reall care, when you see the european phone market, is there any need for the iPhone, when other phones such as the LG Prada have a greater aethetic appeal than the iPhone, and Nokia's n95 has far more technical appeal, so really, wheres the hype?