Apple's new iPod classic

Apple today announced the latest in its kind-of-sort-of successful iPod line, the sixth generation iPod "classic." Like the brand new iPod nano, the flagship iPod is also sporting an all-new interface, headlined by Cover Flow. The iPod comes in 80GB and 160GB capacities, with 30 hours of battery for audio playback, 6 hours of video on the 80GB version, and 40 hours / 7 hours for the 160GB unit. In addition to the new interface, the iPod classic is getting a new all-metal shell, and is selling at $249 for the 80 gigger, $349 for 160. You can order one today, and they should be hitting stores by the weekend.

iPod Classic

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:18PM]

wer ?

[gfar Posted Sep 5th 2007 2:45PM]

I will openly ridicule anyone who buys the touch screen version over either of these.

[Cru Posted Sep 5th 2007 2:56PM]

Get ready to lose your voice...

[mastjaso Posted Sep 5th 2007 4:19PM]

Goddamn it Apple fucks up again. I was ready to go out and buy the iPodtouch to replace my Mini but now it only has 16gb of storage. What the fuck is the point. If they combined this ipod's harddrive with the touch then I would buy it but this blows. What's the point of having flash? Sure you can make it smaller and there are no moving parts but anyone's who's actually used an ipod know that moving parts don't make a fucking difference. You can do whatever the fuck you want without it skipping. And if you are that paranoid that your music will skip while jogging then go out and buy a $30 player to jog and you can have a decent sized harddrive to keep your music on.

I don't get what the big deal with all these flash video players are. There's no point since you can't actually store enough movies on them.

All I want is an ipod with a touch screen that can hold my music library and a couple of videos. That is not too much to ask.

And engadget, flash is only good for small amounts of memory not large amounts like you would want in an ipod so wake up and realize that until they cna make 100gb+ amounts of flash memory affordable leave it to memory sticks and ipod shuffles/nanos.

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 5:25PM]

^^ to above poster: flash is less likely to break. when you move an ipod with a HDD around, you are making it more prone to HDD failure; not so with flash.

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 6th 2007 6:08AM]

Once true, but the way the iPods work, as I understand it, the hard drive isn't constantly running. It will just load 64 MB - 128 MB (I can't remember the number) into memory and play off of flash then. This is why the battery life drops drastically if you just hold the skip button.

[maveric101 Posted Sep 5th 2007 9:48PM]

^^ to above poster: so what? you get a new ipod under you're warranty, and just re-download from itunes.

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 6th 2007 1:30PM]

Flash is an SSD, meaning it has no moving parts, which means nothing to get knocked out of alignment when you drop your new $400 dollar ipod. Also, flash media has a much longer read/write life-span. Meaning the ipod touch will still be transferring/accessing data by the time the ipod classic becomes a doorstop. ;)

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:19PM]

List of things the new ZEN has and this doesn't:-

DivX/XviD support
WMV Support
SD Card slot with SDHC support.
Incredible 97dB SNR Audio Quality. (5G Ipod = 83dB, 2G Nano = 82.6dB)
16.7 million colour screen
Built-In microphone for voice recording
25hr music/5hr video battery life

4GB ZEN = $149
8GB ZEN = $199
16GB ZEN = $299

4GB iPod Nano = $199
8GB iPod Nano = $249
16GB iPod Nano = ???

I cant wait to read your review of this thing considdering you were so unimpressed with the new ZEN
http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/31/hands-on-with-creatives-zen/

[JustinM Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:25PM]

Too bad this article won't be about the Nano at all. If Creative releases a new HDD-based player, then you might have a point.

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:30PM]

Here's a list of things the Zen doesn't have:

A ridiculous amount of third party accesories, iTunes integrations and dock connectors to plug into in my car, my house, my portable video player,.. and, well, EVERYWHERE!

[CommentSystem Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:34PM]

you say itunes integration like its a good thing

[who Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:38PM]

Don't forget FM radio, too.

[pdiddy Posted Sep 5th 2007 2:00PM]

OK, for most portable electronics an SD slot is necessary. Please enlighten all of us what you would do with 8 gigs of SD memory, if that, when you have 20x that already inside the device.

-p-

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 2:11PM]

@ anewsome

yea, a ton of 3rd part accessories just like all the peopl who go down to autozone to buy 5in round muffle extension tips to make their 4 cylinder lawn mower sound like it actually makes more then 150 horse power.

some times accessories is a bad thing, ever seen some the people in schools these days? i saw a girl wear 2 belts the other day, and they werent even through the loops, now i know thats about image, but it serves no point at all except for me to be like wow, you dressed up like that to look cool? how influenced are you going to be at the age of 21 after a few drinks

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 2:31PM]

Heh, nice try. Too bad you just copied and pasted this comment from the nano thread. Take your trolling elsewhere, troll.

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 3:00PM]

List of things this has that the Zen doesn't:

160GB

Game over.

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 3:38PM]

Haha who cares where this came from - this is the best 'Reply to this if you're an iPod fanboy' post.

lol @ the 'better accessories' or 'I need 160GB' replies. I think they say it all.

[Bobbler Posted Sep 5th 2007 8:27PM]

lol @ the 'better accessories' ?

Why? Dont see ANY other music player from Creative, Arcos, Samsung, Sony or any other of the so called big players in this market which I can control from my car headunit. No need to mess about fiddling with a second device, you just plug in the ipod, stick it in the glovebox and it works the same as a cd changer or Mp3 CDR. It charges it, it controls it. The best that you can hope for on other players is input via the headphone socket to a couple of aux inputs, a crappy FM transmitter or a shoddy tape interface, all of which need you to manipulate the device itself to navigate track selections.
I see manufacturers like Alpine, Kenwood, Pioneer, even SONY have a proper Ipod interface. Sony dont even have any integration between their very own products and their music players, so if that is the result of better accessories, then bring it on.

[hydrogenwv Posted Sep 5th 2007 5:24PM]

Rock on Alan.

I'm glad there are some other Creative fans around here. As far as 3rd party accessories go, for $10 on eBay I bought an 11 accessory bundle for my Creative Vision:m. It has everything I need.

As far as in-car use, for the extra price I would have had to pay for an iPod, I could buy a cheap LCD screen and have the output on the Vision:m on a 7" screen controlled by a wireless remote. Cheaper than paying the premium for iPod compatibility....

I've used quite a few Creative products, and I've dabbled with some iPods, and the Creative products are far superior, imho. Sure, the iPod is dumbed down so any 2-belt wearing ditz that doesn't understand the point of belt loops can use it. I don't need that. I need features. And Creative products are packed with features.

Oh, and iTunes integration is not a perk. It's a pain in the ass, especially if you don't want all of your music on your device. Give me the good old drag and drop, and forget iTunes.

[Bic823 Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:22PM]

Nice.

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:25PM]

what's nice? nothing has even been announced yet.

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:24PM]

hahahaha

Nice placeholder, you jerks.

[LiQuiDFuSioN Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:33PM]

Holy crap, man! Engadget is probably getting flooded with so much traffic as the pages are loading s-l-o-w..

[jonnyjedi Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:26PM]

Brilliant! Apple haven't even announced it yet but engadget are obviously so certain or have already had a tip they can't reveal, that they've stuck the post up ready! Mind you, the "fatty" prediction was spot on...

[retarded commenter Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:26PM]

This one showed up in the podcast feed and got my hopes up.

So sad.

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:27PM]

Erm, are we supposed to see this page yet?

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:28PM]

OK I cant wait to see pics. of this. I have been holding out on the new Archos 605WIFI which is totally cool and my friend got it before me so this better be worth waiting for.

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:28PM]

Wow, a new revolution! I'm urging everyone to buy one. Apple need our support.

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:31PM]

It's 1.30 am over here and I don't even know why I'm still here. On a school night. Hooray for insomnia.But seriously, wheres my pics.

[LiQuiDFuSioN Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:31PM]

Here it comes, guys (as the news develops)! I can't believe how excited I am, almost like a kid in a candy store. Or perhaps a kid waking up to see a bunch of Xmas presents under a tree. I know I sound utterly ridiculous, but I can't help it! ;)

*keeps refreshing back and forth between pages*

-_-

[UTBrian Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:32PM]

The word "classic" means there's also a touch screen iPod coming IMO.

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 4:02PM]

160GB? Thats madness!

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 7:59PM]

This is Apple.

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:37PM]

This thread is useless without pics.

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:36PM]

think it's 40 hours of audio and 7 of video for the 160gb version

[inutopia Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:38PM]

wow, eat those words

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:37PM]

160 gigs? Impressive, but I'm sure the price tag will be too.

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:38PM]

scroll wheel for the lose.

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:39PM]

Any word on an integrated FM tuner so I don't have to shell out another fifty bucks for something that comes standard on virtually every other mp3 player on the market?

[Googler Posted Sep 5th 2007 3:59PM]

Heck, it even comes with the Zune and when you don't have something the Zune does you know you suck!

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:41PM]

oh balls, no they didn't. I'm an apple hater by nature, but having a 160gb music player is just sextastic!

looks like i'll get one of these unless zune releases something 120gb+

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 2:00PM]

i guess having your major computer competitor enter into the mix and throw out like 5 more features that are frequently used means you have to step up the capacity and price war.


it just feels desperate... kind of like how dodge cars feel today.

[carbman Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:48PM]

Bluetooth? Samsung is looking good.

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:51PM]

nothing new, waste of time

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:48PM]

And how about some colors with the all new metal casings. Thanks.

[MajorMalfunction Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:49PM]

Since I can't own the music, I want subscription services, not semi-permanent ownership.


Side Note: Who the hell cares what Star Jones thinks, damnit, why'd she take another hour away from the spotty coverage on Court TV?

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:51PM]

they just dont want to hurt iPhone sales with new widescreen version

fakthem

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 1:50PM]

WT? Where's my touchscreen iPod then?!

[(Unverified) Posted Sep 5th 2007 2:11PM]

its new its call the iphone.