Apple finally weighs in on iPhone hacks, unlocking
By Darren Murph 
posted Sep 24th 2007 5:50PM
posted Sep 24th 2007 5:50PM
Merely three days after hearing of one user's run-in with Apple over his unlocked iPhone, the company has released an official statement warning users that "unauthorized iPhone unlocking programs" could cause "irreparable damage to the iPhone's software." Furthermore, the firm stated that these apps could result in the handset becoming "permanently inoperable when a future Apple-supplied iPhone software update is installed" -- you know, like the one coming "later this week" that includes the iTunes WiFi Music Store. As if that wasn't bad enough, the release also notes that "unauthorized modifications to the iPhone's software" violates the iPhone software license agreement and "voids the warranty." Ouch.[Via MacNN]
Big Bad Bro Apple has finally arrived for world and wallet domination!
apple has always been about wallet domination they're just finally showing their colors on the iphone
I just can't figure out how software modification can void the warranty on a piece of hardware. It's not like if you install a program on your mac, and the hard drive dies, they can just up and void your entire warranty.
Every user should have to right to a restore program, if I don't touch the hardware, you shouldn't be able to void my hardware warranty, period.
You guys are really something!
Come on now, let be realistic about this. EVERY big boy corporation is about MAKING MONEY! That is the nature of our wonderful system. Last time I checked apple was not a non-profit organization. You kids should really get a clue. Jobs is required to look out for the best interest of Apple shareholders…. And that means making a profit from the products they develop, developing new products in order to stay profitable, protecting apple intellectual property, and protecting the integrity of the partnerships Apple have formed in order to make money.
Honestly guys grow up, quit your crying (b**ching), go wash your face with proactive, and ask your mom and dad to explain how capitalism works and why it is a GREAT SYSTEM.
@LegendZ28
So let's say you install some software(represents: iPhone unlock) on your Mac (represents: iPhone) and somehow the software causes your Mac to crash all the time, and eventually hardware damage.
Who's fault is it?
If Apple tells you that they can't support that software, and if the people who are providing the unlock software also say that it's at your own risk.
Guess what? It's at YOUR risk.
You can't expect Apple to repair damage from software they didn't create.
And the M$ fanboys respond!
In a way Apple is just covering their ass against thousands of service requests because someone messed with the software. Any of us unlocking the phone knows we are doing it at our own risk. but there are probably thousands of people out there who would expect Apple to fix something that they themselves voluntarily "broke." Business is about money, all you M$ fanboys know that, all the Apple fanboys know that, so why do you expect more because Apple is now run like a business and not your friend?
@LegendZ28-
"I just can't figure out how software modification can void the warranty on a piece of hardware."
Software modification can make a device run very differently than it was intended. For example, I have a piece of software on my 8125 that enables the processor to be overclocked. If I wanted to I could easily fry the processor.
While I agree that Apple should release an SDK and enable 3rd party development to increase functionality, its ludicrous to expect them to support hacks that could potentially cause thousands of bricked or damaged iPhones; especially considering the millions of dollars they've spent to get their software to run as well as it does.
I've been an Apple 'fanboy' for over a decade and I don't understand what all the bitching is about. People have been wanting an iPhone for years, and now they finally have it and they're still not happy. I want a Mac Pro that dispenses Guinness, I know I can make one, but it'll void my warranty.
Either be happy with what you've got, or wait until that product does what you want it to do. And if you're that impatient, then maybe your priorities are out of order.
wait why is this news? why are u guys up in arms?
i have yet to come across a handset maker that actually encourages hacking. unlocking is one thing, cuz moto/nokia/sammy phones are NOT designed while having 'lock' in mind - the decision to lock them is made by the carrier
so back to my point. apple released the iphone WITH THE INTENTION to lock it to at&t, and by 'unlocking' it you're hacking it, and none of the companies like u hacking their products. don't believe me? go to modmymoto or howardforums or motomodders or ANY PHONE HACKING SITE and all of them will tell you that by hacking the phone you will void the warranty, simple as that.
grow up kids, i know it's fun to poke fun at a company with a lot of blind zealots, but you should poke fun with some sense.
Funny. Plam doesn't give me grief over warranty issues when I install third party software or even leave the cellular carrier the phone was first sold from. What's the deal Apple?
Funny. PhotoJoe, installing programs is not the same as hacking. And palm doesn't have exclusive contracts with just one carrier. that's the deal.
seems like a lot of you guys still don't get it, so here's an example: you can enable java uploader on a moto, upload a .jar and .jad file to install a game. that's fine, moto doesn't mind. HOWEVER, if the phone comes with a particular flash and flex but you decided to put a foreign hacked flex over it which bricks it, it's not moto's fault and they will not fix it.
simple enough yet?
@luidabruin:
Since when is the profit motive the only laudable goal for a company to follow? Perhaps you, like the rest of the archcapitalists who love to mock those who think fair play in capitalism is a good idea, have forgotten that both companies and markets are composed of real people.
Also, since when is forgoing long-term progress in favor of short-term gain a good idea?
It is very bad boy from Apple. Sony Ericsson, Nokia, Samsung allow GSM unlocking and it does not void your warranty because of it. In fact Windows Mobile updates never broke the software unlock I did on my smartphone.
Steve really doesn't care about you. He only wants your money.
and here I thought apple was just a charity organization giving away free computers and ipods.
thanks for shedding some light on this issue for me. ;)
of course he wants your money.... thats part of his job description, you moron. as a CEO his allegiance is to us the shareholders.
now you can go to the corner and start crying about how Steve doesn't care about your feelings and how he has not returned your calls and emails asking him out on a date.
Jobs' job is quite clear to any reasonable adult. He is in charge of keeping apple profitable. To that end, he need to keep his costumers happy with apple products. I don't know where you got the idea that he has to care about you.
I didn't think Apple was a charity organization, but I did think they cared about giving their customers the best possible product.
>>He is in charge of keeping apple profitable. To that end, he need to keep his costumers happy with apple products.
Costumers indeed. It's a circus out there.
That's fine cause I don't really care about Steve either, I just want his products.
I thought he wanted my first newborn child. I guess I should refund this iPod and get it back.
But, in all seriousness, Apple = Microsoft in terms of being money-grubbing.
And Bill REALLY cares doesn't he.
I dunno - until I see proof of the first bricked iPhone because of the software update I'm going to consider this statement by Apple more of an ass-shield (i.e. said statement was made so that no-one can sue them IF something goes wrong).
I'd love to throw some hate Apple's way for this, but I can't.
We all knew the deal when we bought the iPhone. Apple is just doing their best to hold us to it.
Does this suck?
Yes.
Does AT&T suck beyond words?
Yes.
Is AT&T a bunch of scumbags spying for Bush and the MPAA?
Yes.
But, we all knew that going in.
The only way we as consumers are going to see the changes we want is more compeition. More records labels. More Apple's and Microsofts and Banks and Insurance companies and health providers, etc., etc., etc.,
There are simply too few companies serving us nowadays, and we get screwed because no one really needs to compete--just more marketing...
Why is that Bush always seems to be mentioned? There seems to be a lot of Bush derangement syndrome going around these days. What evidence is there that at&t is spying for the Bush administration. If you actually do some research, you will see that it wasn't Bush that ordered the phone companies to work with the government. It was actually B.J. Clinton.
where do you get your facts, dude?
Tmobile, Verizon, Qwest and Sprint all spy on you for George Bush. It's a federal requirement, not an elective.
Who else would have been the best provider? Verizon (CDMA????) Sprint (CDMA???Financial problems???) Tmobile (underdeveloped, underfunded, weak data network)????
You don't have a whole lot of options dude. Tmobile would have been the only other viable option but Tmobile's data services are underdeveloped for the kinds of traffic an IPHONE launch would subject it to.
I love that Apple says your warranty is screwed if you unlock their hardware, removing it from the network they choose because AT&T was willing to pay them the most money, and AT&T gets the blame.
I like Apple too, but some of you guys are just plain ignorant.
Hey LegendZ28,
To reiterate: grow up, quit your crying (b**ching), go wash your face with proactive, and ask your mom and dad to explain how capitalism works and why it is a GREAT SYSTEM.
Sincerely,
Realitycheck
Replying to this here so it gets your attention.
Below you claim that Microsoft and Palm release locked devices. Since when does Microsoft make a phone? They make an OS for phones. An OS that is not tied to any specific carrier, does not exclude carriers, allows developers to create software, allows users to load software, and a few years ago they even released a majority of the sources. Again, Microsoft is not a device manufacturer. So don't lump them in with Apple.
I will also comment on your great use of diversion. You claim that "I'd love to throw some hate Apple's way for this, but I can't.", but then later you bring up something completely unrelated to the iPhone, something about overriding user preferences (I assume the windows update thing?). What does that have to do with the conversation, or are you just trying to deflect scrutiny from Apple to Microsoft? Don't believe you one bit when you say that "I'd love to throw some hate Apple's way for this, but I can't."
And to use your own words:
Thanks for playing.
@aaron
Actually, AT&T has had a special relationship with the US government for years if not decades with regards to spying on US citizens. In fact, the Electronic Frontier Foundation, along with others, has filed suit specifically against AT&T, alleging that has been spying with the NSA on US citizens without warrants. The case has been moving through the courts, and sufficiently scares the powers that be that a bill whose main purpose is to stop this case (and others like it that would surely follow) has been quickly moving through congress. So, there are some facts for you; frankly, almost any company would be better than AT&T.
Apple didn't get to where they are without it's core users, and now Apple is abandoning them for other companies. The only way to get Apple to listen to the consumer instead of other corporations (AT&T, recording industry, movie industry, let's face it, they all have a major part in this because all Apple cares about is selling hardware) is to send them a lot of feedback. If everyone gets pissed off, then Apple will have no choice but to rethink it's strategy here. I've already sent several scathing letters.
listen man, apples doing what it can. if you think it's all lollipops and rainbows over at appl hq you're wrong.
it's alot of kissing ass too old men that don't like change who would rather be stuck in their ways.
apple doesn't own the cell towers, end of story.
if ANYONE didn't see this coming, then they need to sit with the 'special' kids typing 3 words per minute in computer class.
kenpo--
Why are you always so negative? You must be a glass half empty guy. I will say that at the very least your rhetoric entertains me.
it's how I get my kicks.
that, and I'm a realist ;)
lol...well i enjoy your post over almost anyone elses...just try to look at the positive side sometimes...or dont and continue to make me laugh my ass off
the word 'rhetoric' makes me smile. but the internet is not a place for my happiness, I save that for the real world. so i will continue to make you laugh by taunting others in sometimes illogical fashion that leads to questions such as "was that sarcasm, or stupidity?".
Not even I can answer such questions.
Point is, I didn't want Apple to get in bed with AT&T or any specific carrier. I certainly didn't want them to sign any contracts that bound them to provide tech support, updates, or anything else while AT&T sits on their ass raking in money. AT&T does virtually nothing in this deal and Apple does everything. If AT&T has a runny nose, Apple's gotta wipe. That's some bullshit.
@ RP
You are aware that Apple gets a hefty chunk of revenue from the calls made on the contracts, right? Apple's the one raking in the money on this, hence why they want to lock people to the carriers.
It seems like every post now is just another example of Apple becoming more and more anti-consumer. Where they always this bad?
It seems obvious to me that as Apple keep getting more and more high profile, they will inevitably become target for more and more critisism.
I for one don't get what the big deal here is. Apple is merely saying that if your phone stops working as a consequence of your tinkering with the software, it's not their problem.
Of course it could also be seen as Apple saying that if your phone stops working because the buttons fall off suddenly, it's not their problem either, since you voided the warranty by tinkering with the software. But doesn't strike me as very plausible.
button mate, button.
No its buttons, because there are the home, volume, and sleep (lock)/off buttons.
What's new from Apple? Same old same old. hackers will never die (well actually they will but you get the point!)
What I don't understand is why APPLE didn't simply design this phone to be used with ANY GSM sim card in the first place? Why the exclusive AT&T contract?
#1 They had to know people were gonna unlock it sooner or later.
#2 They could have made deals with T-Mobile, AT&T, and even NEXTEL (with a special iDEN enabled model. Which would equal much more money...
#3 People would be more likely to go for one if they didn't have to leave their GSM provider for a new one. They shoulda been able to just pop their SIM cards in and move on.
I can't believe Apple could make more selling through AT&T rather than just selling out of APPLE STORES, an online.
They partnered with AT&T because they wanted to keep making money off of the iPhone for a long time after the original purchase.
You are forgetting the most important element, Apple has a cut of the monthly service plan. You call that crippling the phone, Apple sees that as a constant source of revenue. When all is said and done, Apple will make more money off your service plan than that of the initial purchase.
The deal they struck in France regarding the cut they receive of the service plan is just sick.
also notice the fact that they don't post this up on Apple.com, but instead use a press release firm...
eh if they gonna try to break my phone then i just wont update.....im good without d/l the iTunes wireless store b/c i havent bought music in over 10 years anyways
The most important thing:
Is there any way that Apple can PROVE that you hacked and unlocked your iphone? If you have a problem, just remove the applications you added and put an AT&T sim back into the phone when you take it to your Apple store.
Am I missing something?
Perhaps...
So what do you do if the iPhone locks up and wont let your uninstall the hacks/modifications or restore the OS to it's original form, hence the reason why you are taking the iPhone to the Apple store in the first place... For Apple to do what you couldn't do... Fix the HACKS!
You answered your own question!
I never thought I would see the day when I actually trust Microsoft over...well anyone frankly.
But im disliking apple more by the minute, mainly because of their ties with AT&T.
Zune for Life!
About two weeks ago I was convinced that I wanted an iPhone. I know it's best to wait for 2nd gen, so I wasn't going to buy, but I definitely wanted one NOW NOW NOW! In just a couple weeks, Apple has completely changed my mind. I'm now trusting Microsoft of all companies, to assure that my next phone will be open and allow me access to the features that I need and want. I've never liked Windows Mobile, but at least Microsoft is doing a better job of protecting the consumer from the big bad phone companies.
You think is just Apple?
I bet Microsoft would have done something similar if they only had the chance...
Did you forget about the secret update Microsoft did TWO WEEKS AGO to every single copy of Windows in the wild.
The one which over-rode user preferences?
Listen, I hate locking phones, AT&T, big company bulls1t as much as the next guy, but trying to make Microsoft into the good guys is just crazy.
Microsoft is still the biggest bunch of scumbags out there. I am certainly no Apple fanboi, and I don't trust any big company to do anything but screw everyone to make as much money as they can, but Microsoft is dirt merchants. It's in their culture and DNA.
Surely your memory is longer than two weeks.
I don't find updating my update software particularly evil or nefarious. Yes, I don't like that they can change anything on my computer without my consent, but I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. This is Apple claiming you can cause "irreparable damage" to their SOFTWARE. You know, the stuff that can just be copied back over. When you manage to "irreparably damage" a software program, you will have astounded me beyond words.
Wow, Apple. Thanks for helping me decide not to get an iPhone.
Welcome to the club.
Yeah. Good luck trying to sell that POS here in Europe.
Likelihood: Will the firmware update be voluntary ala Software Update (where an update package is manually downloaded and installed) or silent and compulsory ala when Apple spontaneously upgraded everyone's phone during the keynote a while back?
What I really like about this is, Apple will make firmware update with very hard to resist. I don't have a iphone yet but, by the time 3G and GPS is added, it'll have some much packed into I won't care to hack it....keep up the good work everyone!
I'm not sure if your comments are trying to claim they can do this, or if you are just saying you are waiting till iPhone 2.0, but...
They definitely can NOT add GPS or 3G via a firmware update. Even the biggest bandwidth in the world will not allow you to download a GPS reciever.
Or maybe i'm reading what you are saying wrong. Sorry.
You know what a firmware update COULD add, that would be nice? Streaming from the iPod portion of the phone to an Airport. My computer does it... my phone has wifi... why not? How sick would it be to control your stereo from your pocket at a party?
Or maybe, they will discover that too many people are avoiding the iPod touch to get the iPhone, and eliminate the ability to shuffle songs on the iPhone, or perhaps remove the ability to fast forward or rewind a movie, so it doesnt take market share from the iPod Touch.
and also remember, with every firmware update, and every application they add, a little bit of memory somewhere in your iPhone screams as it becomes occupied by the Plastic Fist Of The Whites.
Apple, bring it to Canada so we don't have to go through all of this mess. It's about time. At least give us a date or something. We've waited long enough.
Too late to bring it to Canada with overpriced Rogers plans.
Screw you apple.
That's it, Mr. Jobs, you stick it to those Phone Phreakers! What with their unauthorized use of phone technology. Say, did you and the Woz have any interesting hobbies before starting your company?
Thanks for the laugh Duane, that was pretty good. I don't know if I'd call unlocking a style of phreaking, but good enough for me!
I think the bigger problem is that people who have unlocked phones generally are outside the US and are going to get F***** with the update, if it's true and it does brick unlocked iPhones.. that's going to royally suck.
If it does, they obviously did it on purpose.. though the way they're wording it suggests it's a co-incidence... pff.
All this BS for what, VISUAL VOICEMAIL?? Come on.... was it really worth it?? I don't miss it, AT ALL. That's the only reason they teamed up with AT&T, that and unlimited data plans. SO WHAT? Look how many people want UNLOCKED iPhones!!! I agree, they should've done that to begin with.
I don't really see how they can brick someone phone and not get sued. Unlocking is legal. I bought the phone legally, I unlocked it legally why could they just brick my phone?
They can stop to support it or void the warranty but not brick it.
The DMCA *explicitly* exclude unlocking a phone as illegal.
I have a question-- If you restore your iphone to factory settings can apple know if you ever installed hacks? Also, if you have restored can a future iphone update effect your iphone? Probably seems like dumb questions but im not quite good on the whole hackery..hence why i had to use apptapp
I'm guessing no. not if you do a full restore and wipe the thing. it wasn't designed 'yet' to keep track of such things.
what the next update 'might' do is change how the iphone connects to pc/mac. the itouch requests, rather than receives, which is why it hasn't been hacked yet, it's harder to do anyhting, but it doesn't take orders... iphone 1.1.1? whatever it is, might do that to stop people as well
Anyone who didn't see this coming a mile away is insane.
qft
I agree... All of that damn hype that Apple pumps out ended up producing a bunch of cry babies!
Apples next update to the iPhone should include a pacifier. That might keep them quiet!
:D
Some people just don't get it. 1. Apple is not out to take care of you. They create products that we like because they know that by creating a good product they will make money, and repeat customers. 2. Apple signed an exclusivity deal with AT&T in order to get them to allow Apple to develop features like "visual voicemail" and to bring the device that Apple wanted to make to market. Don't you think that Apple would open up the iPhone to everyone if they could? You are directing your anger at the guys that are trying to do what they've always done which is do away the business as usual crap on the customer business model that the cellphone industry has, and that all the other industries Apple has touched have had. Look at the record companies! They are starting their death throws because of what Apple, and a few others (I know Apple didn't create the MP3 player or digital distribution) have done. Think a little bit here guys, sometimes you have to work within the framework of the existing system in order to change it. Be patient.
Apple:
"If you hacked your iPhone, don't update to 1.1.x"
Hackers:
"Okay. We'll have 1.1.x hacked in a month."
End of story.
Until BANG compulsory update. Ooops.
you obviously have no experience with Apple products. there is no such thing as a "compulsory update" with ANYTHING.
we can also use Little Snitch to block the update port or just NOT plug in the iPhone - we can SSH or SFTP anything we need onto it.
Read: alexare @ Sep 24th 2007 6:09PM
apple never did such thing.
and if they did, we're not on AT&T, so I don't think we'll get it seeing as how apple doesn't work with T-Mo :D
> you obviously have no experience with Apple products. there is no such thing as a "compulsory update" with ANYTHING.
It was optional for Apple Computers - but now we got Apple Inc. Times are changing.
Maybe M$ is not the best example - but they did a hidden update on their software recently AGAIN, which people found out who monitor software updates carefully.
Statements from the dictator..
Apple is up to it's old elitism games. You know - the kind that let MS take over the desktop market..morons.
It's clear that Apple does NOT want to play nice and does NOT want to give users any flexibility with their 'phone'.
No sdk, no Java, no unlocking, no, no, no.
If Apple wants to play dictator let them screw themselves.
Leave their junk on the shelves.
I've had enough of their attitude problems.
So Microsoft, Palm, etc., sell their devices unlocked and let you use them with whatever carrier you want here in the USA?
No?
Thanks for playing.
I certainly am no Apple apologist, and hate the concept of locking devices, but EVERYONE does it here in the US. Sucks, but it's true, so spare us your trite Apple hating...
yeah yeah point taken about unlocked phones.. zzz You can get them unlocked without reprisal..
The point is apple are being pricks.
@ BWhaler
You really are ignorant, aren't you? Yes, in fact HTC (Microsoft neither makes nor sells phones) and Palm, and the other phone manufacturers do in fact sell unlocked phones you can use on any network that their radio supports. Furthermore, you can hack, unlock, and otherwise tinker with your phone all you want, and none of the phone manufacturers will do anything to stop you, or brick your phone. They are selling you a phone, and don't really care what you do with it.
Please, will you Apple apologists stop trying to pretend that if Apple doesn't allow something, then that must be the norm. HTC, RIM, Palm, Nokia, Motorola, all are available either from the factory unlocked, or can be unlocked without repercussions. If you think Apple's behavior is normal, then you are dead wrong.
Only a fool would spend $600 on a overhyped PDA phone and has to hack it just to make it usable.
SUCKERS !!!!!!!
Am I a fool if I spent only 300
400
I don't remember hearing nothing to "NO" from others like RIM etc.
Apple's main goal in life is to restrict you, while others tend to 'enable' you.
Isn't the 'enabling' idea why you buy a freak'n device like this in the first place?
I'm sorry to hear that guys.
I'll pray for you all.
Sour grapes? Can't stand people having money to burn?
Admit it. If you had the money, you'd be one of the "SUCKERS" yourself.
The last three phones I've owned have all had to be hacked in some way to deliver the features I wanted, which were removed by carriers. The iPhone would have been no different to me, I just had to wait until the hackers got around to it. They've been moving so quickly, I was almost at the point where I would feel comfortable buying one, especially since Apple wasn't showing signs of blocking hacks.
But then Apple started their saber-rattling, and now I'm afraid that if I bought the phone on the basis of hacked functionality, there's a good chance of losing necessary features in the future. I really hope that now that the iPhone has established itself, Apple will make the next version independent of the carriers so they can get back to releasing products to make their consumers happy, not just the executives at AT&T.
I really don't see anything wrong about Apple's announcement. Sure it sucks that they tie the iphone to AT&T. But since you've hacked the phone, how the hell can they guarantee that your phone will still work after a firmware upgrade?
The bottom line is that if you want the phone hacked, then go ahead. Just don't upgrade the firmware until the hacking community confirms that it works. What's so hard to do here?
I am really disappointed with the move that apple have done with iPhone. I currently have one, and happy to have one, but that doesn't mean i am disappointed with the company. I been using mac products for five years now, and what got me over to using os x is that it is free bsd based (go Cal!), and that there are more and more 3rd party apps. By restricting every f**king thing on the iPhone is very annoying. And i cant believe i cant use my iPhone when i went back to hong kong a month or so ago just because my phone is locked and there is no way to unlock it.
How is this not like Apple? This time they are locking the iPhone to a service instead of locking OSX to to apple computers or music off iTunes to iPods. This is Apple's business model. How are you not used to it by now?
Only Fred is right. If anybody remembers back to the iPhone pre-release days, Apple had all the cell phone carriers bid for having iphone exclusivity. Why? Have you seen a verizon phone these days? they flash their own bios and have their own services in order to make money. T-mobile only has T-mobile hot-spot, no broadband network to my knowledge. Apple wants to release a product that does what apple wants, not what cell phone companies want. If you think Apple is consumer "unfriendly" because of this, open up your mind to the fact that Apple would make TONS more money if they opened the iPhone to every cell phone carrier. More cell phone carreirs = more market penetration. They chose AT&T because ATT would give in to Apple's demands plus whehter you like to admit it or not, ATT is the largest phone carrier in the nation. It only makes sense.
Don't believe this nonsense, Apple is just trying to play nice with ATT. Your phone will not become bricked. I unlocked my phone and it works 100% minus the visual voice mail. Nobody can defeat the hackers and the power of millions of people who want' an unlocked phone. Hackers will always find a way to unlock the Iphone no matter what update apple can throw at us. The Iphone is a machine that runs on SOFTWARE. Hackers will always create software to manipulate any security feature the Iphone might have. When a new update comes out do not accept it, wait for the green light from the hacking community, their will be plenty of people with unlimited resources to check if the update effects the unlocked phones. If the phone gets locked again after an update rest assure a new hack is around the corner.
I see this as a big boom to windows mobile marketshare. Casual iPhone users who want to use custom programs are eventually going to get screwed and hear about Windows Mobile and its near-decade long history of tons of microsoft-encouraged custom made programs. Oh, and there are hardware keyboards too!
yeah im sure that is going to happen.
I have the money, I just don't have any need in buying a overpriced Shiny PDA phone. I'm quite happy with my $100 prepaid T-mobile phone. I use it maybe once a month.
thats cuz nobody loves you and nobody cares..nobody owes you a thing
Hahaha You're right I feel so sad now. I'm going out right now to make friends and then I'll buy a iphone and show it off like a jackass.