With yesterday's
leak, Gateway's press conference was a bit short on surprise this morning, but the Gateway One is indeed official, and it really doesn't look half bad. The one mystery left was the screen, which turns out to be a 1400 x 900 19-incher, which feels a bit small in this day and age, but leaves the One's footprint at an acceptable size. Other niceties include dual easy-swap hard drive slots accessed by lifting off the back cover of the computer, and adjustable tilt through a stand in the back. The included mouse, keyboard and remote are all wireless and pre-synced with the computer, while the web-cam is a USB add-on accessory which comes in the box and can be perched up top, and the top-end One comes with a USB TV tuner as well. Otherwise the specs are as
expected, with prices ranging from $1,300 to $1,800 and late October availability. Check out our gallery for some in the wild pictures.
posted Sep 27th 2007 10:40AM
I guess Apple doesn't overprice their computers. This is definitely (specs wise) inferior to the iMac at a higher price.
What's this got to do with Apple?
Or can't you help yourself mentioning Their Hallowed Name even on topics that have nothing to do with them (like most of Engadget's stories these days, apparently?
Anyway, back on topic: the Gateway looks pretty good to my eyes. The easy-to-remove hard drives are a nice touch and 1400 x 900 should be fine for most uses. and the remote should make it nice'n'cuddly for bedroom/teenager use.
How could you not compare it to Apple. It is Gateway's attempt to create an all in one computer and if you are going to compare it to something your only option is the iMac. What other decent all in ones are out there?
Gateway made in all in one PC YEARS AGO!!!! what are you talking about!?!
Not only Gateway, but there were a few I remember back in the late 90s. Not to mention the old Heath/Zenith all in one PCs (what was it... late 70s?)
I suppose you guys think comparing this device to an old all in one gateway is a better comparison then comparing it to the current generations best selling all in one machine. I don't think this http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/03/gateway_profile_6.jpg computer would be as good a comparison as the iMac.
I simply stated that it appears pricing for these devices appears to be similar to Apple if not a little bit more expensive.
It's obviously meant to compete with the Imac. Don't make lame hater comments just because you like to feel important.
Back on topic...Aesthetically this definitely leaves Sony's recent attempt in the dust. I don't think it will revolutionize gateway and get them back on track, but it will go a long way to helping their image if they can follow it up with a few more offerings held to this standard.
Upgradeability is a plus too. Drop the price a bit more and this will easily beat out mac's.
"Drop the price a bit more and this will easily beat out mac's."
not with the people who actually care about the OS. It could look EXACTLY like an iMac, but if the only option is booting up into Windows, me & millions of others wont even think twice about passing on it. Just the way it is. A Hyndai could look just like BMW, but it doesn't mean BMW owners will drop their current ride for it.
Ditto. This is clearly, 100% aimed at competing with the iMac, right down to the choice of colors/materials. And the only thing it's really got over the iMac is the dual, easily-swappable hard drive bays. That is a nice feature that Apple could really stand to implement.
But still, this totally shoots the "Apple is more expensive" arguments right it the foot.
what does it not have to do with apple? this thing is a COMPLETE iMac rip. put the pictures of this thing next to the imac, they were just plain ignorant with copying apple.
Its just an iMac knockoff (a rather pricey one).
not by the hair on my chinny chin chin
Its like the luxury edition of a Hyundai!!
I realize this ain't Auto Blog, but before you badmouth Hyundai, check this out:
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suvs/112_0707_hyundai_veracruz_lexus_rx350
I love that article. Paraphrasing: The Lexus accelerates faster and stops in less distance from 60-0, but we are going to call it a draw. Because 5 feet of stopping distance is minor. They also shrugged off the HID headlights (which are God-like if you own them) and real wood trim and other amenities but not that the Hyundai has better cup holders?
So much bias!
We all know that a Hyundai is not a Lexus, but what that article is bringing up is the fact that Hyundai is no longer the cheap econobox it used it be, and what a lot of uninformed people still perceive it to be. Some of us do need to keep an open mind.
Agreed, the iMac seems a better value for processor, screen size, etc., though it would be nice if Apple offered a TV tuner option that integrated nicely with Front Row.
Any word how you can tilt the screen?
I thought this was supposed to be a work of art? Instead, it looks like a small tv with a keyboard.
i think its weird anyone would get this, or any all-in-one. a laptop makes a whole lot more sense and portable!
A laptop makes a lot less sense when you want a big screen or need to upgrade hard drive or ram.
Hard drives and RAM can be upgraded in laptops just as easily as that style of desktop.
Nice looking computer, nice design -
...as long as it is off, or at least not running Windows!
Granted, for Gateway anyway, it doesn't look exactly bad.
Now can anyone answer this: WTF is up with glossy black everything?
Is dusty, smeary, oily, annoyingly reflective the in thing? Apart from touch screens I just don't get it.
Gateway's solution to reflections: Live in a solitary confinement cell with no windows.
How come no one mentions its most obvious and incredible feature, wireless power?! Apparently, according to the pictures, you can just plunk this sucker on the counter and magically, it fires right up!
Lol! I was about to post the same thing!
Clean! Really clean!
[btw - has anyone ever commented that the password generator used by Engadget apparently is the same one used by Joystiq (that uses the same message board software)?]
For a second, I thought you were serious becuase I only read half of your post & immeadiately went back & re-read the write up.
it is early, I am tired & i have a cold. That is is my excuse...
There is only one cable going to the actual unit. The rest of the connections (ethernet, coaxial, etc) are made on a large brick that sits where ever you hide it. USB connections are on the machine as well. You can see it in the gallery.
That's nice...but not my point. In all of the "in the wild" shots of the computer, they conveniently forget said cable in favor of making it look even more austerely artistic. In reality, the cabling/power strip to the wall required would make such an installation much less eloquent. I am always a tad irked by unrealistic portrayals, I guess.
@Walt-Mink true, only one cable. But in their product shots (not the press event shots) they don't show any cables: http://www.engadget.com/photos/gateway-one-gets-official/415736/
yeah, it's actually yet another technology copied from apple! /sarcasm
http://www.apple.com/imac/design.html
is the keyboard and mouse bluetooth?
It looks nice, especially for a Gateway.
-Kron
http://www.weblixr.com
It's easily the best looking PC I've seen. And I don't think it looks any worse than the new iMac, although the screen is a bit undersized. They'll probably put out 23 or 24 inchers in the future, I'm guessing. Another thing this has going and the Macs don't is the upgradability. Kudos to Gateway.
Let's see it against a similarly priced iMac:
CPU: 900mhz slower than iMac +1 Apple
RAM: 1GB more than iMac +1 Gateway
HDD: 80GB more than iMac +1 Gateway
Video: Inferior (non HD) +1 Apple
Bluetooth: No +1 Apple
Optical: equivalent
Screen: 1" less than iMac, low resolution for size (iMac 1680x1050, Gw1 1440x900)
So guts-wise, apple has them. Then you add to that the fact that Gateway's put an inferior computer in a bigger box . . . and you lost me.
But it'll sell, and I'll tell you why. The average consumer will go into CompUSA and the salesman will show them both, but because of the long-standing "will-it-run-my-apps" stigma surrounding Apple (and people's general discomfort with switching operating systems), they'll pick the Gateway.
Base iMac comes with 250 GB HD...
Yes but the base iMac costs 1199. The 1499 iMac comes with a 320. I said "similarly priced iMac.
totally missed the "more" in there ha I thought you were just saying 80 gigs... my mistake.
to me, it looks more like a Bang & Olufsen product.
ooooooor a really really big 5th gen iPod Video.
It took four years, but somebody has almost sorta caught up to the Imacs AIO design. Kind of looks like an overgrown 5g ipod without a clickwheel.
yes it does look like an ipod.
a mac ripoff that looks like an ipod. who would have guessed.
well maybe calling it a ripoff is not very fair. lets say "inspired from mac"
how aesthetic can it be with a webcam clamped on top... why didn't they take the whole copying thing to the fullest and embed the camera on top of the screen ?? it seems so easy, especially with the size of the computer.. to me it screams uglyness. it's like me painting a Van Gogh, it just won't look good.
Good for Gateway. I'm glad they are trying something different like this. I hope it helps revitalize them. More competition is good, and I would hate to see Gateway fold.
OMG this PC hands down one ups the iMac in almost every category. Some of you nit picking because the screen is 1 inch less is totally pathetic. Gatway.com has the specifics up at their site.
How about comparing it to the iMac on how many different OSes it can run?
Still wins hands down?
fail, fool.
are you on crack?
The specs arent even close to the iMac. And you pay more for the gateway.
@CHOICE:
Um, hardware manufacturers can't even compete with that, because Apple chose it to run only on Macs.
Seems a bit of an unfair comparison/advantage to me. I always hate it when people tout that feature.
Moooooo
This is a sharp looking computer and leaps and bounds ahead of anything else in the US computer market.
As for this being a rip off of an iMac, well, all-in-one computers have been around well before the iMac ever even showed up. This is simply an evolutionary step showing that it's more than just the mac faithful who appreciate the simplicity and utilitarian nature of the all-in-one computer. If this thing sells even half way decently, expect more of this form factor from a variety of vendors.
"Bad artists copy. Great artists steal."
-- Pablo Picasso
I will hand it to them. Gateway finally got the importance of hiring GOOD industrial designers to work with them (whoever designed that other Gateway all -in-one iMac wannabe about 4 or 5 years ago should be taken out back and beaten with stick). So many other failed attempts at iMac-like machines fail because the companies aren;t willing to devote the resources necessary to design development. They slap some sliver plastic swooshy pieces on the same old clunky box and think that's "design." Lets hope the Gateway's beauty is more than skin deep too because good design doesn't end at the case.
The iMac still seems a better deal but it is nice that companies are starting to see that you can;t just throw generic beige or black boxes with a rats next of cables at the home market and have it stick.
The screen is too small (especially on the 1800 dollar model), and I'm not going near Vista but I am glad somebody is trying to up the ante on computer design other than Apple and Sony.
one thing i haven't noticed anyone mentioning is the i/o ports built into the adapter. seems like a really ingenious idea to keep your peripheral cables out of sight below the desk. is this unique? or have others done it before? also, i'm a bit unclear as to how the invisible speaker system works. any takers?
Since there are no power cords present in the photos are they implying that this thing has wireless power?
"whoever designed that other Gateway all -in-one iMac wannabe about 4 or 5 years ago should be taken out back and beaten with stick"
Sorry, it was just last year that they were still making the ugliest computer in the world.... the "Profile Series"
http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/23/gateways-profile-6-desktop-offers-lots-of-expansion-not-so-muc/
Shit that thing is glossy, even the chin.
Reads on the package: Solitary confinement cell with no windows required.
kinda pricey (especially considering if you want to play any games your pretty much stuck with the most expensive one) but I have to admit it doesn't look all that bad. I wouldn't call it a work of art or anything though.
I learned my lesson buying slim/compact PCs already though, Its pretty much impossible to upgrade anything >_<
But with a computer that looks like this you could always use it as just a TV/DVD Player and everything when the specs where too out of date, and hey look it browses the web with convenient wireless accessories.
This is a very clear example of Apple's influence in the world of computer design. I don't think that's bad. It's a very nice looking computer, and the specs are OK, I don't think it's a true "all-in-one" if you're putting your ports, etc. on an external brick (that's cheating) but it certainly is pretty. But the thing to remember is that it's still a Gateway and it's still just a PC. The other side of the coin is that Apple has great software to complement the good design. These poor bastards are still stuck with Windows.
Um, it's not cheating, it's smart(er than iMac) design. The only things you would plug into the brick are things that you will leave plugged in, things like ethernet cables, usb dongles, etc. I don't know about you, but those are things that I'd rather not have sticking out the back of my iMac and taking up the ports. And speaking of which, am I the only one who wants to be able to SEE the ports when I have to plug something in? That's the one thing about the iMac that bugs me on a daily basis.
I'm no pc/mac fanboy/hater, just being honest.
I think I am going to snap if people don't stop talking about Apple for every single product ever created. Gateway, one of the first major PC manufacturers, is making an attempt at getting back into the market and all people can do is squabble over the stupid iMac. Its a nice looking machine - stop looking at digg 24 hours a day.
Oh... can you imagine the fingerprints? This compy is just calling for you to touch it.
I'm not a PC fan but I'll be honest and say that I'd do this thing if it was softer ;) You know what would look nice next to one of these? one of those sexy black samsung printers that are being sold exclusively on the apple website.
Clearly an attempt to compete with the iMac.
Even the pictures have the Apple feeling with the reflective effects.
It's not an ugly or bad idea computer, it's just an imitation of Apple's original concepts, which brought them to be an innovative company in terms of design and usability.
And yeah, the One is stuck with Windows VS the iMac which offers OS X or Windows.
Wouldn't it be great if when you took a picture of your computer it looked as good as tech promo shots......they always have that cool line of light going across it
It's like an ass-heavy iMac. And this coming from a person that used to count Gateway as a client of mine. Meh... No thanks.
I think it improved on the iMac because it doesn't have the club foot base and lacks the fugly Apple logo.
It is good to see Gateway back with this offering. Now they just need to lower the base unit to $999 and they sell millions.
Bravo, Gateway... you got the style memo... finally! This is a really attractive machine and your designers have done well. Not a knock off of anybody else's work (no, I'm not just talking that company from Cupertino, either) and has great lines. Way to go. :)
I gues the designer was an apple fan...
Anyway, iMac design has a bit more:
- more adjustable stand
- smaller?
- faster
- webcam build-in !!!
- no power/cable brick you have to hide
- OSX and iLife
- ....
I think its great someone is trying to compete with Apple. Its like the Zune of computers, close but not quite there. I am sure they will announce a bigger screen in the future and its a nice option if you absolutely need a windows machine. Price point should be around $900. This would be Acers first Gateway after the buyout of the company so it is interesting to see sales. Still Apple makes a far better product for a great price and excellent customer service. And by the number of Apple related posts it is obvious that the company is influencing the competition and there is nothing wrong with that.
Picasso: "Good Artists Copy; Great Artists Steal"
also said by Steve Jobs
Yes, it copies the iMac. Yes, it's expensive. Yes, it looks nice. The reality? There is a reason Apple put the iMac on a decent sized stand.
One of the biggest complains about the look of the iMacs is being totally overlooked here: the chin. If comparisons are to be made, compare the height of that chin on the gateway, it's HUGE!!
Anyone think that the location of the optical drive will be annoying? I'm just thinking about all the crap on my desk I'd have to move to insert a CD (guess I should clean my desk). The clean illusion will also vanish when you fill up the ports along the side. A step in the right direction, but I'm not sure if this computer was designed for the user or just designed to look nice on a desk.
This is another area where people misunderstand Apple by thinking their products are just "pretty". Pretty they may be, but they tend to design with an actual user in mind. (yes there have been some exceptions - the old hockey puck mouse, anyone. awful.)
But overall, gateway should be commended for giving a damn.
No one has mentioned yet that Gateway bought eMachines, makers of the eOne, which had to be discontinued after being sued by Apple because of its uncanny similarities to the iMac: http://www.answers.com/topic/emachines?cat=technology
I'm dying to know - is it battery powered, or solar?
Because not a single photo shows a power cord anywhere in the near vicinity. Shame on you, Gateway!
Wow.. is it possible to have Lauren the Ghoti banned? His entire comment history is just bashing on Apple for no apparent reason.
That is what happens when you spend your life on WOW, have no friends & have never been laidd
I'm more concerned by how unreasonably offensive, inappropriate, and derogatory he is.
Almost something I would put in my house until I saw the front and the big clunky COW BOX LOGO... seriously gateway if you're going to go high end, you're going to need brand identity to match.
What, country folk & cows doesn't say "high end" to you?
agreed. even faking it without buying an Alienware or Voodoo would be smart, just a cleaner higher-end logo/division for these kinds of products.
As for all the Apple comparisons, of course it should be compared, they are both similar, and both available. Whether or not one copies the other or one copies an iPod or one copies something done 10 years ago - hardly matters.
Is it a good value? Do you like it? Is it worth it to you?
I like it, although I'd never buy an All-In-One, too limiting. Give me a tower, or give me a completely component-based system. I'd rather buy a new sleek keyboard and a new sleek monitor, then run a (gasp) cable down to my box.
still doesn't beat my friend's old monorail computer ( http://www.armory.com/~vern/toys/Monorail.htm )
This thing looks HORRID! ...I wouldnt buy it if it was the last PC on earth!! :S its disgusting looking
First off: I'm a Windows admin and I've disliked Apple for a long time. I've respected them for their design elegance, but Apple fans drive me insane.
I give Gateway full marks for putting out a nice design. However, fighting over how to spin Gateway's intent is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is this: if you're going to design a knock-off of a Prada handbag, it REALLY helps to sell it cheaper than the original.
Additionally, the machine will come with Vista. (So?) Well... is Vista an OS X knock-off? Yeeees, yeees, yes. Is the One an iMac knock-off? Yeeees yes. So if my machine looks like a Mac, and it drives like a Mac (read: Mac OS X 10.0 Cheetah... slogging piece of ^%$#...), why wouldn't I just buy a Mac and get it over with?
...Because I'm worried that my apps won't work? Hell, I have Vista. A lot of my apps ALREADY don't work.
--Megs
TBH I would honestly buy a iMac if i where to buy a machine and had only this and the iMac to chose from, the better spec, I dont need to worry about spyware, adaware etc as much and I can still run windows apps on my mac by using vmware, pararells or even boot camp its not like the consumer has no choice and the large pc stores eg compUSA sell at least one of those. I think it does look a bit like a iMac but the keyboard is butt ugly and yeah its running windows which is why i like apple, they give the consumer a choice and do not force them to go down one route, many educational institutions use windows due to compatibility and people dont always like change so stick with windows anyway back on topic. I thought gateway had gone bust, glad their still around though. It deffinantly looks nice compared to normal PC chassis so thumbs up for this one gateway but yeah a tad expensive, I know for one thing i wont move from my mac pro to it, you can have the best looking chassis all you want but what matters is what is run on it.
As other have said... looks like a Mac...
FYI, here's a detailed spec comparison of the $1,299 Gateway One vs. the base 20" iMac (with $100 in upgrades to make the prices match):
http://www.systemshootouts.org/shootouts/desktop/2007/0927_dt1300.html
Did anyone forget that the first Mac was an all in one? I always see people seem to try to say in things like this like the iMac was the first one and that anything PC before that was first. Apple has been making plenty of all in ones before the iMac. The Bondi blue iMac wasn't the first... and neither was anything from gateway... or even Sony.
That being said I don't think this looks half bad. Only that the "chin" is a bit too big (and I thought the iMac's was big) and I don't like the way the keys on the keyboard look up close.
And don't forget Gateway's reputation for quality and customer service (cough, cough). Add that in, and the deal is sealed!
Wow, it must be tough to be that stupid. Taking into account your comments on my post, and this post I suspect that you are the one with the low IQ. I'll tell you what you go learn to spell, and then talk to me about my IQ.
This is not the first time Gateway has mimicked Apple, anybody remember the Gateway Astro? http://thejournal.com/articles/14905
I thought this article was about the 20th Anniversary Mac when i skimmed the homepage - the thing's such a throwback!
What I can't understand is how Sony gets away with charging more than both Gateway and Apple for a significantly inferior spec'd machine.
Sony's all-in-one runs you $2,049.99 and comes with an inferior chip, hard-drive, graphics processor, RAM, etc.
Maybe they aren't getting away with it and aren't selling any.
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&productId=8198552921665089229&langId=-1
I think it looks great. SO THERE.
im sold
Why do I think of Jay Leno when I see this computer?
OMG, finally a GOOD all-in-one computer that will totally not suck, oh wait thats not a Mac!
How can some of you say its not copying mac, i mean its the same fucking layout.
The lack of integrated web cam has been mentioned. But the other pieces of the picture are Apple's built in mic with noise cancelling technology, quicktime .h264 and the amazing streaming technology in iChat that allows:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/theater/ichat.html
No head sets. Just sit back and chat with the people you care about. Quite simply, Windows cannot do this. Full screen. 4 way video. 10 way audio.
So Gateway and the rest can come up with the best designs in the world, but the technology is still lacking.
Waddo
The iMac is a far superior system in aesthetics, value and specs. I don't blame them for copying, it's extremely successful, but a monument to Apple's success is that they always manage to perform by delivering the best product no matter how many people copy them.