iPod touch now running Mail, Google Maps, and more
By Thomas Ricker 
posted Oct 11th 2007 5:52AM
posted Oct 11th 2007 5:52AM
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i have an @att.net account. how do you setup email with the new update?
it is occuring to me that unless Apple starts to release firmware upgrades that open up old, and new, functionality of the hardware, there will be no real reason to update with all the 3rdP software for the emancipated touch.
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i m so happy ts great hope Apple is not too serious about breaking the effort of the open community cause it will obviously help to sell more ipod
so great i justwaiting for...................i cant believe it
Um, where is the freaking bluetooth that we are suppose to have?
Um, you can't just freaking add bluetooth.
Nowhere did it say the iPt was supposed to have bluetooth.
Wasn't there talk of someone opening up an iPod touch and there being a 802.11a chip, and a Bluetooth setting in a (somehow) unfinished configuration menu?
What I want to know is what of the chances of bricking the touch by jailbreaking it and installing these apps, and Apple updating the firmware which is bound to happen soon?
Yes, but that doesn't prove anything.
People on MacRumors are reporting that they can restore after jailbreak, so there shouldn't be any problems with it bricking.
There were also reports that this wasn't the case though.
I would love to chuck these apps on my iPt but I'm always expecting the worst, too. However, if it bricks, there are ways to unbrick it (combination of buttons).
Concerning bricking of the iPods:
I tried the TIFF exploit earlier.
It worked. I could access the device ith IPHUC, but neither the touch, nor iTunes recognized any music on it. Worse: iTunes only recognized around 200 MBytes of memory which already was 75% full.
Preferring music over an unfinished hack, I wanted to restore the touch, but I got nothing but error -18 from iTunes.
The trick is to do this:
1) Connect the touch
2) Press and hold sleep+home until the device reboots.
3) Keep holding until that "please connect me to itunes"-screen appears
4) iTunes says something about having detected a touch in recovery mode. Allow it to do its thing.
Now here, I got another error -18, so
5) Disconnect the touch
6) Close iTunes
7) Reconnect the touch
8) iTunes launches and shows message as in step 4, but this time, the recovery will work *phew*
So while the TIFF explout makes the touch pretty useless for its intended purpose, at least, you don't have to fear bricking it.
Philip
Awesome news. I'll be attempting this when I get home. :)
Thanks.
Philip, that is a known issue and is a part of the jailbreak. That simply means the exploit succeeded. Once you gain SSH access and can FTP to your device, you simply have to rename a couple folders and you get all of your music and storage back instantly.
Also, a little note. If you can connect using iPHUC, just type: enterrecovery
It throws the Touch/iPhone into recovery mode, then you open up iTunes and restore like normal.
Unfortunately a lot of curious people are deciding to take a look at the TIFF, not realizing that once you view it, you're already part way through the jailbreaking process.
If you don't intend to fully jailbreak, don't view the TIFF or you'll have to do some restoring or renaming to have access to all your storage and media.
The bluetooth would really help when you don't have WiFi.
Damn their marketing!
There may be bluetooth, but you can't just make it work...it has to go through the FCC before it can use bluetooth technology.
But iFixit never said it did not have bluetooth. I doubt it does but, just sayin'. ANyway, will this work for 1.0.2 iPod touches or just 1.1.1? I haven't updated mine just yet.
They never specifically said it didn't have a Marguerita mixer in it either, but I doubt I'll be blendin' drinks with it later. ;)
But will it blend?
You're not blending drinks with the iPt? Sounds like you got a bum device. I put mine in the blender and it pureed just fine. Warning: doing so will permanently brick the device... damn Apple always stopping me from unintended uses.
sweet I want it for my iPod!
I need a guide to jailbreak my ipod touch. sombody`?
http://www.touchdev.net/wiki/Jailbreak_Guide
uhhh.. If I say yes will you leave me alone :)
meh, wake me up when it plays xvid,avi files
Wake me up when safari has flash and the above. ;)
If you are waiting for flash, I don't think you're getting an iPhone for a few years then. As of right now Apple says it's a power drain.
That's their excuse for all the useful features that didn't make the cut. It's wearing a bit thin.
@ Matt H,
Exactly what version of Flash does Adobe have for OS X on an ARM CPU? Adobe Flash 7 for ARM CPU is practically worthless. Adobe Flash 9 for Mac OS X is highly un-optimized. Adobe is the one who needs to get Flash working properly, but shouldn't they stat by optimizing Mac OS X Flash and getting a decent version of Flash for the billion Symbian based phones out there?
My suggestion to Adobe is to create a chpset that takes Flash from being a slow, powersucking software solution to a faster, less power hungry chipset solution.
other than gamming on the web.. why do you want flash?!?! the world has gone flash crazy.. it'll drain power and takes a while to load when its not optimized (which is about 50% of all flash on the web).
Err, I said wake me up when it has Flash, not it needs flash now.
Flash may use a lot of battery, but who cares.. that's what a charger is for. Why Flash? Not because of the 100% flash websites, but because of flash games, flash interfaces and videos.
Exactly what version of Flash does Adobe have for OS X on an ARM CPU? Ok none, but that's what I'm saying - Wake me up WHEN they get around to doing it.
Jeez.
Should be a long sleep then Matt.
Guide?
Meh...Wake me up when ti has a comic and eBook reader. No seriously this baby is now really on my Christmas shopping list - great work by all the hack...errr I mean software development teams out there!
I promise you this hack will be fixed before christmas, so best to put that christmas list on the 'maybe' pile.
bugmat- you can wake up now, at least for an ebook reader-
http://code.google.com/p/iphoneebooks/
it has an ebook reader :P
Heck I got it way back in November and I love my comic and eBook readers thank you very much! ;)
OMG!!! I can't wait to get Notes and full-Calendar on my touch! Looking forward to a nice compiled crack for the touch that doesn't require doing lots of convoluted things to get it working.
oh and supposedly this one only works if you have a Mac :(
So what, just shrink one of your partitions with GParted (defrag in windows first) and then install JaS OSX 10.4.8 ;-). Once installed checkout insanelymac.com to get help on upgrading to 10.4.10 so you can install iTunes and manage your iPod Touch.
with all that icons now it look a Microsoft Product. It's ugly!
Do you remember the Microsoft ipod parody?
Microsoft iPod Parody = Funny http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=36099539665548298&q=microsoft+ipod
That parody was made by Microsoft before they had an MP3 player. The Zune box is so clean, it makes that video kind of irrelevant.
I'd say The video is the reason the zune box is so clean ;)
Use http://www.touchdev.net/wiki/Jailbreak_Guide#Known_Working_iPhone_Applications_and_Requirements
Works like a charm for me :D
Hey, its finally catching up to my now outdated iPAQ rw6828, wow!
Seriously, windows smart phones and windows mobile PDAs have the same functionality, and its been like that for a good 5 years now why weren't they revolutionary devices?
MultiTouch Interface? - This is the biggie!!! How you actually navigate, interact with the device. Easy and Beautiful.
I watched a crowd of around 100 people fighting just to demo one of these products at the Regent St Apple store. The older generation couldn't believe how easy it was, they were somewhat scared by the MultiTouch voodoo. I cannot remember many products getting that kind of reaction from the general public. It's ashame they couldn't purchase one though as the morning shipment sold out within 2 hours.
Wake me up when Apple stop trying to lock down a FREAKING MP3 PLAYER. I'd love a touch but I WILL NOT PAY for one until its a device that APPLE allow me to install software of MY CHOICE on.
I understand the locking on the iPhone, that is a completely different product and sales model. This is a portable computer/mp3 player, with no contract and no subsidy. I cannot understand why Apple will not let consumers get the most out of THEIR hardware. And yes the hardware DOES BELONG to the consumer once purchased. Apple IP/Copyright is completely IRRELEVENT.
Are Apply really trying to become hated like MS, because they are well on their way...
They don't want the iTouch to cannibalize iPhone sales, it's perfectly understandable.
Just like you said, it's a "freaking mp3 player" and it already does a whole lot more than any other "freaking mp3 player".
Yeah, if you buy it (which you haven't yet, apparently, so I don't understand your frustration), it is your hardware. Do what you like with it! Apply this new hack! Have a blast!
Just don't expect Apple to fuckin' support it. Seriously. Actually you could make a better argument for phones because there are phones out there that are more open to 3rd party app development (like Nokias). But pray tell, where's another MP3 player that does what the iPod touch does out of the box, LET ALONE one that has the manufacturer supporting 3rd party app development on it?
Why do you expect they would release the iPod Touch any different then the old iPods? Locked down with little to no wiggle room.
This is Apple remember. The company that thrives on limiting your choices.
Ditto. I got all excited to buy a touch when it was announced, but quickly soured on the idea after I heard about the calendar and notes issues.
Maybe, just maybe, these "bugs" will be fixed with Leopard.
And BTW, will Leopard finally allow two way syncing with GCal and iCal.
This is really all it will take to get me to buy a Touch. I'm one of the few who really wanted the flash drive.
Yeah, the iPod touch needs to be open, like all other MP3 player hardware! You should be able to install NES emulators and stuff like that just like on the Zune!
More seriously, Apple's being short-sighted and foolish in how they deal with the lockdown on the iPhone in particular, though perhaps they still have an SDK up their sleeves (or third-party dev partnerships planned down the road).
But the iPod touch... I can't think of many MP3 players which allow you to install your own third-party software without hackery. (Other than 'embedded Linux devices' which tend to be more a small and somewhat anemic computer which happens to play MP3s than an actual dedicated MP3 player.) Which isn't to say Apple's not being blind to possibilities here; if the iPod touch was open to third-party development, I think it could quickly become a phenomenally popular MP3 player. (Though would cannibalize the iPhone sales somewhat, yes.)
But saying 'call me when they don't lock third-party software off their MP3 player' seems a little silly when, frankly, most other MP3 players don't either. When was the last time someone installed Google Maps on their Creative Zen? A libpurple-driven IM program on their Zune?
"But pray tell, where's another MP3 player that does what the iPod touch does out of the box"
Uhhhhm look at the new Archos line, Ipods are not the only MP3 players out there
If you own a Mac and you're thinking about buying a touch, do it! I hesitated because of the lack of features. I made the mistake (sarcasm) of walking into an Apple store and playing with one, but decided to purchase despite it being stripped down. I applied the OS X hacks and they were easy and worked perfectly. I now can add contacts, navigate Google Maps, check mail, and use the stocks and weather widget from the iPhone. With the community hacks installed I have an ebook reader, dictionary, custom themes, and can of course SFTP to it now (that's how you install the hacks). It's awesome.
i read somewhere that you can hack a windows smart phone to send out your 3g connection as wifi... that would be the perfect compliment to this thing!
they are not trying to break 3rd party apps at all, there is simply as yet no proper dev kit so when apple does its updates (which are system wide - remember this is a new version of osx) it breaks code the 3rd party apps rely on. Apple will however try to stop network unlocking because the iphone is an exclusive on att and apple has to fulfill its side of the deal. Apple care about end user experience (we are not talking the likes of people that come on these blogs - who should know better than to run any official update after hacking anything) and the end user experience is boosted by web access (which most people have not yet used and without being pushed to do so would not enjoy a lot of the iphones features.
Great. Now, can someone please grab the wifi music store, Contacts app and double click for music controls so we can port them back to our 1.0.2 iPhones?
Is it safe to do this now??? Becuse i want to upgrade mye ipod touch in the next update. Steve says it wil fix the bug in calendar
The only thing Steve is going to fix is his lambo in the parking garage, while he laughs manically.
There's an app called 'Sendfile' on there. THIS people is exactly why the iPhone/iPod Touch are locked for development in the first place. Apple is on uneasy terms with the RIAA in the first place, so they definitely don't want people using their connected iPhones to be sending each other mp3s all day long. The other relationship they need to protect is the one with ATT, so they don't want anyone to develop a Skype client.
That's why I predict there WILL be apps - but they will be 'certified' and distributed via iTunes.
**Disclaimer: I haven't actually hacked my iPhone, so I don't know exactly what 'Sendfile' does. Even if it doesn't send files to other handhelds, the possibility to develop such an app exists, and my argument is still valid.
Yep, send song adds any song as an attachment in the Mail App, which aint good for ATT (never actually sent a song via Edge so dunno for sure). It also allows me to EASILY send ringtones. Sounds weird, but it works really well even for MP3s.
Firley, people are sending each other files to each other all the time, every day REGARDLESS !
Job's needs to send a similar message as Yahoo did the other day and tell the RIAA to suck it ! Why can't I send any file that's on my handheld to any other, beit a vCard, an iWork document ... pictures taken from my iPhone, or yes, my favourite track from the latest Radiohead album ! Tis the digital age, witness the dinosaurs fall !
Better watch out or people will one day use cassette tapes for recording songs and sharing with their friends! Beware Peer 2 Peer cassette exchanges!
Wow! The touch might even be useful now!
Just called one of my friends who has been waiting for a jailbreak to happen, to let her know buying a Touch might actually be worth making a purchase on now!
Just wondered what happens when you run out of room on the home screen of the touch, does it scroll like the music menus, or not.
No, the springboard doesn't scroll. You'll need an application launcher.
Thanks, I've be wondering about that. Not sure what's best, scroll, or app launcher. They could keep the bottom buttons static and scroll the upper most section, ar well.
The home screen does scroll.
I have jailbreaked the iTouch.
I think Apple should dish out the proper dev kits and start making more sync through iTunes apps of their own. Real nice ones.
I always go application happy with my PDA's and phones only to realise that many of the apps are not really that good when you've used them for a bit. Just give me email, Google maps, stand alone PDF reader and that’ll do me for now. I don’t mind paying a few £’s for them as long as they are proper fully fledged apps with updates and support.
Get Skype working.
Without a microphone your conversations would be pretty one-sided, but hey, we all have different needs. Maybe yours is the speaking clock.
the earbuds have a microphone built into the right bud (correct me if i'm wrong)at least they have in previous models
wonderful!
My nephew will be happy. This is great I love hackers and coders, geeks and wonks!
As for Flash: Opera is working on something for its mini browser. Now if Apple hackers could get Opera to work on a Mac that would show some major chops.
Opera is fast and light, it would fly on touch and the iPhone and it would put us in a good position to have some kind of Flash player. Main problem so far is that Adobe can't or will not make a mobile version that uses less juice. Opera is planning to make a converter. Might never happen but at least Opera knows we want this and is keen to provide it.
I used the Operamini beta 4 on my Helio Ocean (don't buy one if you have to cancel) And the performance was in my opinion better than Safari. Lean and mean.
Sorry for the ramble just giving out a wish list. Give me Opera... not the TV star.. the browser.
@bob: Apple just cant do anything wrong can they? Changing springboard to only display a specified locked (well, it was..) list of programs, how is that a 'feature'? They are trying to restrict us.
I wonder why they don't just realease an official dev kit.
they're against hacking...
alot of the hacking effort is due to desire for 3rd party apps. alot of is is for having it unlocked.
iamgine if they sold unlocked iphones with a dev kit.
there would have been zero hacking, zero complaints.
is that really so hard?
Ok really though can we stop with the iPhone updates? I mean 4 of the 5 breaking news articles are about the new jailbreak. Enough!
More than anything I hope all this hackery pushes apple to just open both the touch and iphone. When they abandoned the click wheel in favour of the touch screen they provided us with a proper input device and they ceased to be just iPods anymore. THey're tiny macs and like any computer should be open to development.
The regular iPods should be kept closed, if only because the click wheel is simply best browsing interface for a media device but the worse for a computer.
iPods have been getting hacked for years without Apple's support. I doubt this current hacking will change their position.
Thanks you to everybody who worked to get this thing jailbreaked.
Thanks to you now I can install third party apps.
Hurray!
still hoping that somehow there will be a slingbox player
You can scroll with Summerboard installed on the iPhone; no need for a launcher app then. Works just like you ask for; dock stays static and the rest scroll.
There's also been some multi-springboards that you side-swipe between, seen on jailbroken iPhones.
Either or both could work on the Touch; it won't be long now.
Not sure if I understand those screenshots right, but is this a real mail application or just some front-end to webmail systems...?! I mean, can I actually use any POP3/IMAP account as well or just web-based mail systems like Gmail, Yahoo and so on...?!?
The ipod touch is an overpriced ipod. Just bought one yesterday (8GB), $289 at Costco. Apple claims "experience the internet like you suppose to"- but the last time I checked CNN- I "experienced" some videos in flash. The touch DOES NOT have flash and can't experience the net like we are supposed to. My freaking Tungsten C- has Sony's Clie Flash- which I can watch some type of flash movies (not while surfing).... Hooking it up with itunes wasn't no walk in the park either. Another disadvantage, you can't add your own videos via SD card. There are NO slots for NO cards. That means that you will have to buy the itune videos which run 9.99-14.99 per movie on their site. I have three full length movies (2GB SD card)on my tungsten c, using the Core player. I recommend you get the Ipod Video Nano (8GB) for $189 at Costco- instead of the touch. If you want portable surfing, get the Nokia's N800 (about the same price of the touch). You can watch CNN videos on that.
It would seem more logical to allow us to choose whether we see flash or not on our hyPods. Then it would be "flash OFF" till we need it to conserve battery power.
Monte...Your spoiled by technology so open your eyes, there are great third party programs that do just what you say that work for uploading your videos. Simply download handbreak and it converts it to ipod touch format then simply add it to iTunes and wah lah! I set my target size at 200MB/hour and audio to 44.1 using 2 pass encoding. It is dvd quality at 1/10th of the size your doing now. Research before you complain.
Randy, I still stand firmed about the itouch- it's hyped. I returned it today and got my money back. It wasn't much about the vids that made my decision to return it- though it was part of it- it was the lack of flash- since about 90% of the net uses flash. Though the itouch is still in its infancy, and not much 3rd party apps are available- you mentioned handbreak- though I am familiar with using DVD converters- the average, non-techie person would have a field day learning about ripping DVDs and trying to bypass CSS. Just my opinion. Also, believe me, my eyes are wide open now that I realized I spent over $300 on an ipod that has a useless wifi option. Think about this... for an additional $150 more I can buy a laptop with a geniune browser, more gigs, fast processor and wider screen. I guess your still dreaming thinking this mini-brick is useful- other than a mini picture frame and mp3 player as its strong points. Overpriced still stands.
So are these like the same programs on the iPhone just transfered over?
Come to think of it, it would be cool if there was a VLC Player for it. But I don't think it would be very powerful since it would be using software to decode video streams.
PHILIP you are my saviour! I when to a site that started the mod because one of my friends told me it was a games site for the ipod touch! when i coulnt hook it back into itunes i panic'd and found out what the site was really for. Thanks to you, you saved my brand new ipod touch and 300$ of mine
Check out gizmodo for pics of apps installed on the touch.
.. If the ipod touch was sold like this - with the ability to add 3rd party apps - they'd sell like hotcakes, instead of like bricks.
All this mucking around with Apple's crippled OS exploits seems silly. Why not work with Rockbox or iPodLinux to install a clean, open system on there?
It's not a question of cat and mouse. The cat being Apple, it will only act after the mouse is in the open. :(
Wo. Someone managed to fill that damn screen up!
I am very happy about the Jailbreak but I am not sure about how stable it is so I am not going to try it yet. I going to wait in the meantime I be using my ipod and iTouch for what it really bought it for put more music, movies and games on it from http://www.ipodtunesdownloads.com
I like the times on the screenshots, nice to see people so determined to get this hacked.
I am buying one as soon as the jailbreak is released for it, will be an awesome device then.
at the moment it is no better than my current ipod so whats the point of changing, i mean apart from the video and pics being better because of the large screen there is nothing. and lets be honest, how often do you look at your pictures and videos?
"They don't want the iTouch to cannibalize iPhone sales, it's perfectly understandable.
Just like you said, it's a "freaking mp3 player" and it already does a whole lot more than any other "freaking mp3 player"."
Umm, I think they did a pretty good job of fucking up iPhone sales by locking it down to a specific carrier. Fact is they're locking down features that they haven't figured out how to wring a buck out of yet. By next spring it'll be the NEW iPod touch featuring Google Maps and Gmail!!! Fuck Apple. I want one of these things, but not until I can get one without gimped functionality.
It's "Jailbroken", not "Jailbreaked", surely? Let's not butcher the language any more than we need to, eh chaps?