Wake me up when Apple stop trying to lock down a FREAKING MP3 PLAYER. I'd love a touch but I WILL NOT PAY for one until its a device that APPLE allow me to install software of MY CHOICE on.
I understand the locking on the iPhone, that is a completely different product and sales model. This is a portable computer/mp3 player, with no contract and no subsidy. I cannot understand why Apple will not let consumers get the most out of THEIR hardware. And yes the hardware DOES BELONG to the consumer once purchased. Apple IP/Copyright is completely IRRELEVENT.
Are Apply really trying to become hated like MS, because they are well on their way...
Yeah, if you buy it (which you haven't yet, apparently, so I don't understand your frustration), it is your hardware. Do what you like with it! Apply this new hack! Have a blast!
Just don't expect Apple to fuckin' support it. Seriously. Actually you could make a better argument for phones because there are phones out there that are more open to 3rd party app development (like Nokias). But pray tell, where's another MP3 player that does what the iPod touch does out of the box, LET ALONE one that has the manufacturer supporting 3rd party app development on it?
Yeah, the iPod touch needs to be open, like all other MP3 player hardware! You should be able to install NES emulators and stuff like that just like on the Zune!
More seriously, Apple's being short-sighted and foolish in how they deal with the lockdown on the iPhone in particular, though perhaps they still have an SDK up their sleeves (or third-party dev partnerships planned down the road).
But the iPod touch... I can't think of many MP3 players which allow you to install your own third-party software without hackery. (Other than 'embedded Linux devices' which tend to be more a small and somewhat anemic computer which happens to play MP3s than an actual dedicated MP3 player.) Which isn't to say Apple's not being blind to possibilities here; if the iPod touch was open to third-party development, I think it could quickly become a phenomenally popular MP3 player. (Though would cannibalize the iPhone sales somewhat, yes.)
But saying 'call me when they don't lock third-party software off their MP3 player' seems a little silly when, frankly, most other MP3 players don't either. When was the last time someone installed Google Maps on their Creative Zen? A libpurple-driven IM program on their Zune?
If you own a Mac and you're thinking about buying a touch, do it! I hesitated because of the lack of features. I made the mistake (sarcasm) of walking into an Apple store and playing with one, but decided to purchase despite it being stripped down. I applied the OS X hacks and they were easy and worked perfectly. I now can add contacts, navigate Google Maps, check mail, and use the stocks and weather widget from the iPhone. With the community hacks installed I have an ebook reader, dictionary, custom themes, and can of course SFTP to it now (that's how you install the hacks). It's awesome.
The Cobra Tag may help you win that losing battle, acting as a Bluetooth device that attaches to your key ring and connects to your phone, it gives you the opportunity to find the missing item if it's less than 30 feet away.
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Wake me up when Apple stop trying to lock down a FREAKING MP3 PLAYER. I'd love a touch but I WILL NOT PAY for one until its a device that APPLE allow me to install software of MY CHOICE on.
I understand the locking on the iPhone, that is a completely different product and sales model. This is a portable computer/mp3 player, with no contract and no subsidy. I cannot understand why Apple will not let consumers get the most out of THEIR hardware. And yes the hardware DOES BELONG to the consumer once purchased. Apple IP/Copyright is completely IRRELEVENT.
Are Apply really trying to become hated like MS, because they are well on their way...
They don't want the iTouch to cannibalize iPhone sales, it's perfectly understandable.
Just like you said, it's a "freaking mp3 player" and it already does a whole lot more than any other "freaking mp3 player".
Yeah, if you buy it (which you haven't yet, apparently, so I don't understand your frustration), it is your hardware. Do what you like with it! Apply this new hack! Have a blast!
Just don't expect Apple to fuckin' support it. Seriously. Actually you could make a better argument for phones because there are phones out there that are more open to 3rd party app development (like Nokias). But pray tell, where's another MP3 player that does what the iPod touch does out of the box, LET ALONE one that has the manufacturer supporting 3rd party app development on it?
Why do you expect they would release the iPod Touch any different then the old iPods? Locked down with little to no wiggle room.
This is Apple remember. The company that thrives on limiting your choices.
Ditto. I got all excited to buy a touch when it was announced, but quickly soured on the idea after I heard about the calendar and notes issues.
Maybe, just maybe, these "bugs" will be fixed with Leopard.
And BTW, will Leopard finally allow two way syncing with GCal and iCal.
This is really all it will take to get me to buy a Touch. I'm one of the few who really wanted the flash drive.
Yeah, the iPod touch needs to be open, like all other MP3 player hardware! You should be able to install NES emulators and stuff like that just like on the Zune!
More seriously, Apple's being short-sighted and foolish in how they deal with the lockdown on the iPhone in particular, though perhaps they still have an SDK up their sleeves (or third-party dev partnerships planned down the road).
But the iPod touch... I can't think of many MP3 players which allow you to install your own third-party software without hackery. (Other than 'embedded Linux devices' which tend to be more a small and somewhat anemic computer which happens to play MP3s than an actual dedicated MP3 player.) Which isn't to say Apple's not being blind to possibilities here; if the iPod touch was open to third-party development, I think it could quickly become a phenomenally popular MP3 player. (Though would cannibalize the iPhone sales somewhat, yes.)
But saying 'call me when they don't lock third-party software off their MP3 player' seems a little silly when, frankly, most other MP3 players don't either. When was the last time someone installed Google Maps on their Creative Zen? A libpurple-driven IM program on their Zune?
"But pray tell, where's another MP3 player that does what the iPod touch does out of the box"
Uhhhhm look at the new Archos line, Ipods are not the only MP3 players out there
If you own a Mac and you're thinking about buying a touch, do it! I hesitated because of the lack of features. I made the mistake (sarcasm) of walking into an Apple store and playing with one, but decided to purchase despite it being stripped down. I applied the OS X hacks and they were easy and worked perfectly. I now can add contacts, navigate Google Maps, check mail, and use the stocks and weather widget from the iPhone. With the community hacks installed I have an ebook reader, dictionary, custom themes, and can of course SFTP to it now (that's how you install the hacks). It's awesome.