Who cares. 5 years from now, musicians won't need record labels anyway. They will just upload their songs to iTunes and they will get the 70 cents rather than the label.
But how would you hear about the artist or the song? The mythical marketing fairy? I can't wait until everybody with guitar can upload their latest song about bong hits that sounds so awesome at 5 AM after bars closed.
Itunes changed distribution but hasn't changed anything in regards to making and marketing music.
You really think Apple would give 70 cents to the artist? Why do you think the artist would ever get that larger of a cut from music sales?
I think people have a misconception of what the music business is. the Artist is only 1 part of the whole equation, unless your selling CDs out of a van a whole lot of people work on releasing an album - producers, lawyers, PR, marketing, physical disc production, delivery logistics etc
Think of it as a the movie industry, the musical artist is similar to the director or star of the film, but there a whole lot of other parts to producing a film and everyone involved gets a cut of the sale of a movie.
artist need the marketing/PR push to become famous it doesn't just happen - RadioHead can pull stunts like giving their CD away because they already have a fan base that was built up the traditional way through music labels. If anything they are screwing all up and comers making them think they will get somewhere by giving their stuff away.
@Carlos - I think people have a *very* good idea of how the music business works: The artists produce content, the end-user consumes it for a price. All the other moving parts are unnecessary middle-men who take money from both ends of the chain. There are plenty of ways for new artists to get "airtime" (peer review), etc. Look at what Netflix has done with some pretty sophisticated marketing algorithms (if you liked movie "X", then we recommend...) Whether it's Apple, Amazon, whomever -- the traditional music business has been dying a long slow death. Someone please step up and finish them off.
TimB - some middle men may not be necessary but the bulk of them are... we are already seeing something similar with podcast. There are hundreds of thousands of podcast out there but no way to sift through them all in a way that I am going to find the podcast that interest just me. A lot of it is junk and I have no time to sift through and 'discover' the podcast that I want to watch or listen to.
Also, most of it is low budget material with no production vaule, under your assumption of how the future of music will work we will have an endless sea of armature music that gets sorted and served up to us by an algorithm - FUN!
The Artist cant produce and sell QUALITY recordings to the end user - a lot of stuff happens in between - believe me even Radio Head is paying a shit load of money to their own 'middle men' that worked on that *free* album of theirs, I bet you anything PR, Marketing, web developers, web commerce, lawyers, producers etc were paid up front by Radio Head in order for them to get that album out to the people. AND the only reason it works is becuase they already have the FAN BASE that was built up the traditional way.
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Who cares. 5 years from now, musicians won't need record labels anyway. They will just upload their songs to iTunes and they will get the 70 cents rather than the label.
apple fanboy just can't stop mantioning iTunes?
yea, they will upload musics, to their own websites.
I wonder if you'll ever get to have conversations on tech sites where people don't take personal attacks at one another.
But how would you hear about the artist or the song? The mythical marketing fairy? I can't wait until everybody with guitar can upload their latest song about bong hits that sounds so awesome at 5 AM after bars closed.
Itunes changed distribution but hasn't changed anything in regards to making and marketing music.
You really think Apple would give 70 cents to the artist? Why do you think the artist would ever get that larger of a cut from music sales?
I think people have a misconception of what the music business is. the Artist is only 1 part of the whole equation, unless your selling CDs out of a van a whole lot of people work on releasing an album - producers, lawyers, PR, marketing, physical disc production, delivery logistics etc
Think of it as a the movie industry, the musical artist is similar to the director or star of the film, but there a whole lot of other parts to producing a film and everyone involved gets a cut of the sale of a movie.
artist need the marketing/PR push to become famous it doesn't just happen - RadioHead can pull stunts like giving their CD away because they already have a fan base that was built up the traditional way through music labels. If anything they are screwing all up and comers making them think they will get somewhere by giving their stuff away.
@Carlos - I think people have a *very* good idea of how the music business works: The artists produce content, the end-user consumes it for a price. All the other moving parts are unnecessary middle-men who take money from both ends of the chain. There are plenty of ways for new artists to get "airtime" (peer review), etc. Look at what Netflix has done with some pretty sophisticated marketing algorithms (if you liked movie "X", then we recommend...) Whether it's Apple, Amazon, whomever -- the traditional music business has been dying a long slow death. Someone please step up and finish them off.
TimB - some middle men may not be necessary but the bulk of them are... we are already seeing something similar with podcast. There are hundreds of thousands of podcast out there but no way to sift through them all in a way that I am going to find the podcast that interest just me. A lot of it is junk and I have no time to sift through and 'discover' the podcast that I want to watch or listen to.
Also, most of it is low budget material with no production vaule, under your assumption of how the future of music will work we will have an endless sea of armature music that gets sorted and served up to us by an algorithm - FUN!
The Artist cant produce and sell QUALITY recordings to the end user - a lot of stuff happens in between - believe me even Radio Head is paying a shit load of money to their own 'middle men' that worked on that *free* album of theirs, I bet you anything PR, Marketing, web developers, web commerce, lawyers, producers etc were paid up front by Radio Head in order for them to get that album out to the people. AND the only reason it works is becuase they already have the FAN BASE that was built up the traditional way.