We got a chance this morning to pose a few queries to Brian Croll, Senior Director of Mac OS X Product Marketing, about today's
Leopard release announcement. Here's some of what he had to say, as well as some of the new features we're looking forward to in the next release.
- Users who bought Apple machines from October 1st on can participate in Apple's Up-To-Date Program, which provides free Leopard upgrades (for $10 shipping).
- Boot Camp's beta Assistant software expires at the end of 2007, meaning Tiger users that want to continue editing / creating Windows partitions on their Macs need to do so before January, or upgrade to Leopard. Post-January you'll still be able to boot to the partitions you've created, though.
- Users shouldn't expect expanded sync capabilities between Mail.app and the iPhone, although it looks like you'll be able to read iPhone notes on your desktop machine now.
- File system is, indeed, still HFS+; OS X now supports read-only ZFS, as we'd heard.
- Don't forget to peep the new features / changes list on Apple's site.
- Call us crazy, but with a 6:00PM Friday launch we think you should expect lines -- but not for Apple to sell out.
A few features we're looking forward to (besides the obvious ones):
- Google Maps integration with Address Book.
- Tricked out AppleScript.
- Automator UI recording / playback.
- Japanese dictionary support.
- New, easily-printable font books.
- Front Row now looks more like "Back Row" (the Apple TV interface) -- too bad it's still not more like Media Center.
- New AirPort menus that show WiFi encryption.
- Disk encryption now supports 256 bit AES.
- Built-in grammar checker. Lord knows we need it 'round these parts.
- Tabbed terminal.
not much exciting
errr...let me guess, you're not a fanboy.
Anyone know where I can get that wallpaper?
"not much exciting"
Looks like you should buy it. You might benefit from the Grammar check...
@derek:
...says the guy who capitalized "grammar" in the middle of a sentence. GG.
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@derek
english is not my native language, btw you got what i meant!
and... it's Grammar Check on the apple's site, not Grammar check.. you may know why they capitalize almost any word in the titles? so it looks more important?
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html#dictionary
obey
@Jille
I don't know why I'm getting into this, but...
You won my sympathy when you said that English is not your maternal language. I do get sick and tired of all those comments on bad english aimed at people who do their best to participate in discussions in a language that is not their own, but which happens to be the internet's lingua franca.
However, you spoiled it when you started about capitalization. While it is true that Apple writes 'Grammar Check' and not 'Grammar check', that has nothing to do with their arrogance or domination, but with English grammar/capitalization rules, i.e. it's not Apple specific at all,
Next time you're expecting leniency for your imperfections in the English language, don't try to correct sombody else's.
dixi.
Anybody knows what's the build number?
Cheers.
10.5 - where have you been?
j/k, im messing with you. I dont know the build number.
:-))
Cute little toy.
Put your Wii away.
"Tricked out Apple Script"? What's this?
You can code in Ruby etc within AppleScript now. It has bridges to several other scripting languages. Which is nice, because AppleScript is all touchy-feely, but it's a real pain to do in-depth coding in it.
Cant wait to torrent this. I refuse to pay for service packs. Buying Tiger to upgrade from Jaguar was the biggest waste of money. Next purchase will be for XI.
Degenerate.
I'm an asshole who refuses to pay for things. Why should I pay for something that took two years to make. Similarly, I don't pay for games I download ($60 is just too much for 40 hours of entertainment) or songs I download (I'm not paying 99 cents for a lossy download I could buy from the store. . . except, you know, I don't buy it from the store either). Until Apple releases an OS update as big as Vista I'm not paying a dime! Well, I didn't really pay for Vista either, but it's bullshit that Ultimate is so expensive.
I buy all my games (For XBOX360, PS2, PC, my current consoles). I order imported CD's for my music, and do not download, ever. I buy the software i need, and trial the ones that i only need once. I bought XP and Vista, as well as Tiger.
I buy movies and TV show DVD's because i care about quality.
I will not pay 99 for this patch. Until Apple puts something substantial into their scheduled OS "updates", they wont see a dime from me.
Here's a crazy thought. DON'T BUY IT! If the feature's don't communicate to you the purchasing price, do the grown-up thing.
No Problem, i wont.
Don't buy it AND don't pirate it asshole.
Arthur's pissed because he thinks BlahBlah's going to hurt Apple's market share in the OS department. Not until Apple ports Mac OS for the PC will it gain any more ground.
How about this, I vow to purchase Leopard when I'm able to install it on my rad PC.
Until then, it's OSx86 project for me.
"Arthur's pissed because he thinks BlahBlah's going to hurt Apple's market share in the OS department. Not until Apple ports Mac OS for the PC will it gain any more ground."
I couldn't give a damn about Market Share for apple. I just think it's bullshit to say, "They're charging too much for this, so I'm going to download a cracked version of it and install it for free." Either you should buy it or you should not buy it AND not use it.
10.3 > 10.4 might *seem* like a small update, if you just look at the most obvious user features added. However, each system updates adds *massive* updates to the developer frameworks that come with the OS. There's tons of apps you just can't run on 10.3 because the system doesn't support it, or it got a quadrillion times easier writing some kind of app for 10.4 (Core Data, anyone? Core Image?).
10.4 > 10.5 is an even bigger transition than 10.3 > 10.4, and I'm sure we're going to see some /amazing/ third party apps for 10.5 very shortly.
Oh, and Time Machine is (going to) kick *so much ass*. Finally an incremental backup solution that actually works, is fast *and* easy.
How many kids running bootcamp you think bought Vista / XP at $300 a pop or more?
It *is* difficult to generate huge enthusiasm for this; all the emphasis on huge icons for resolution independence, the chance to have an advanced filesystem (read-only... what that means is you can't write to it, and so the use is limited to attaching drives created on systems that CAN write it... I'm sure that'll help a lot of people out. Not.) Resolution independence would have been awesome. Time machine is good and I'll probably buy it just for that, and as someone just above mentioned, the developer frameworks will be changed, and so if you want new sw - like the new Delicious Library - you'll either go to Leopard or you'll do without. Still, I can't help looking at all the fumbling about with the iPhone and think they could have paid better attention to the OS. They overpriced the phone, limited the market by locking it to ATT, stumbled with that store credit refund, made it a closed platform... and all the time, the OS is languishing in the background... now here we have release, and two of the bigger features didn't make it. Sigh.
@ arthur barnhouse
get a fucking job.
"I order imported CD's for my music, and do not download, ever."
More Japanese techno/trance worming its way out of their borders to the delight of self-righteous, trench-coat-wearing software piraters everywhere.
Cheers!
@Rian:
WTF? I order black metal and death metal CD's from sites that import from Finland, Germany, Sweeden, etc.
I need help! Wanted to know if I am eligible for upgrade to leopard.
The thing is I bought a laptop off ebay on the 14th of October but it was sealed and not opened at all.
When I checked support.apple.com, they said it was bought on 18 September 2007.
Can I just register my macbook today and claim my copy of leopard? I do not have a receipt but can I just say that it was purchased on the 14th of october? Tried calling apple but they weren't very helpful they said i need a receipt but I don't!
Thanks!!!
Gerald
I would go to an Apple store with the unopened box and try to return it for a different one.
He says he doesn't have a receipt.
Sorry my friend. I don't think you're gonna get it.
That's what you get when you buy off ebay.
Maybe he could buy another one at the store, getting a receipt. Then return the first one with that receipt, and keeping the one with the new OS on it. If they don't take it back, then put it up on eBay again.
Too bad they put the serial number on the receipt. Sorry, Apple store doesn't work like WalMart.
I have an idea, what if I, register my macbook TODAY. and lie that the date of purchase was on the 2nd of october?
I wonder it thats possible!
I love my 24" iMac, but damn it all! I had to purchase it in MID SEPTEMBER. If I had just waited half a month, I'd have Leopard for $10.
Oh well. At least there's education pricing . . .
And you didn't know that apple was releasing a new OS in October? New here?
I knew it was coming in October, but I didn't know how far the policy would reach for upgrades.
I was hoping they might cover computers sold in the month prior to release. That would be- y'know- nice.
No big deal. I was going to get it either way.
any news on resolution independence?
Alas, resolution independence didn't seem to make it.
http://forums.macnn.com/90/mac-os-x/350984/resolution-independent-gui-not-leopard-after/
Bummer... that would have been absolutely amazing. The forum thread above is very depressing... no one thinks it'll make it anytime soon.
Anyone know if Classic will still work on 10.5 powerpc macs? I have a few biology programs that only run in classic.
They will not, 10.5 is the death of Classic.
Does anyone know if Leopard will support Bluetooth A2DP?
I'm wondering too, I've heard it will but I have never got it confirmed...
Yeah it does. My friend, who is a beta tester, confirmed this.
Thank god...I (stupidly) bought bluetooth headphones and figured they would work on my iphone. Strike one. Then, I hoped they would work on my MacBook. Strike two. My last hope was my Vista desktop that I built. Strike three. Nothing had native support for A2DP. That is one of the biggest drawbacks of my iPhone. I will be happy to have it working on my laptop soon. :-D
Does it now support A2DP?
My question also. From what I've read here in the comments, it does support A2DP.
Does anyone know if iLife 08 comes with Leopard or do you have to buy that too?
iLife comes with a new mac purchase, but not with Leopard. You'll need to download it separately. =]