Shocking everyone -- especially Engadget readers -- Nokia announced its new
N810 this morning. Details are still incoming, but here's what we know for sure:
- Same 4.13-nch WVGA (800 x 480), 65k color display as the N800, brightness increased by ~20%
- GPS with particular focus on the "context sensitive web" via Ovi
- 2GB internal storage (not including memory cards), ships with maps for use with GPS
- Has WiFi (802.11b/g), does not have WiMAX
- Bluetooth (2.0+ EDR) DUNs to capable phones, totally Foleo-like
- 400MHz OMAP 2420 CPU, 128MB RAM, 256MB ROM
- Integrated frontal camera, ambient light sensor, mini USB 2.0, hardware lock switch
- Plays back video: 3GP, AVI, H.263, H.264, MP4, ASF, WMV, MPEG-1/4, Real video; audio: MP3, WMA, AAC, AMR, AWB, M4A, MP2, Real audio, WAV
- Battery life aimed at 4 hours of "typical use" (movies, music, internet access, etc.), 10 hours music only, and up to 2 weeks totally idle time, and 5 days active standby ("improved compared to previous generation devices")
- Runs Nokia's Linux Maemo interface (duh)
- 5 x 2.83 x 0.55-inches, 7.97 ounces
- Ships in November, $479
Why doesn't someone add cell phone to something like this. It would be the most killer phone on the market !
Cause it already exists.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/04/engadget-mobile-checks-out-the-atandt-tilt/
@ Georgi
Umm, that's running Windows Mobile, totally different platform!
Not quite. Smaller screen, much lower res screen, much lower built-in memory. The AT&T Tilt is nice but no where near the specs of the Nokia N810, if only the Nokia had phone too...
I don't think you would want to talk on the phone on this, I find it weird using the N800 for Skype because you have to set it a few feet away from you to talk, still it came in very handy overseas.
NOOO!!! Please!!!
No cellphones attached to this gem! I want to be able to buy good PDA again. Not those stupid "smart" phones that do not let us add our own applications, have total control over our lives and send everything we do to the service providers. Anything we want to do we have to pay. No waaaaayyy!!!
Nokia did an excellent job! I was looking into buying the HP Travel Companion but now will likely wait until November to get this one.
Couldn't agree more. Just with GSM and even without G3 it would be iPhone killer. But seems Nokia designers now got inferiority complex. They develop cells for 20 years, but some "mighty" unknown in this business newcomer just came and grabbed all the spots. Seems now Nokia prefer to wait what's next Stevy drop in their eyes. Yes, N810 is not a phone but would be nice to have such as an option. GSM/3G would add only $20 and 2-5 MP camera $5-8 to bill of materials of $450 device, so why not ? We are already full like a mule of electronic gadgets which are frying and cracking our testicles. I feel frustration...
What also incredible, it is 12 mm shorter than iPhone, and only 2mm thicker and 10mm wider, so it has perfect size specifically for men's palm. Would be great phone. Damn Nokia ...
Too expensive, you can buy a dell laptop for that price.
A laptop that weighs 200 grams and runs WiFi for 5 hours?
Show me.
Sure, this Dell laptop fits in your pocket...
One can even go further and say your Dell notebook is too expensive. I can buy more powerful Dell's desktop for less. And my Dell desktop is too expensive. I can buy an old used car for that. And my old used car is too expensive. I can get a woman for less.
NutMac makes an interesting point. He is a quite good player of devil's advocate, obviously.
So I've just calmed myself down from shouting obscenities at my computer, as I have just received shipping confirmation of my n800. Oh well, I guess the n810 will be a Christmas present for myself along with my neo1973 (Gadget God willing). Fingers crossed that us n800 users will get the software love that the n770 users didn't...
Good luck on the Neo. It's nearly 12 months behind schedule.
But I do agree it's drool-worthy.
Do want several.
BTW, the whole "Please confirm your comment" is annoying. It's understandable if you don't require users to register but you do.
The only things the n800 was missing were a keyboard and GPS. I think they've completely nailed it here. If it can play youtube smoothly, they've got a winner.
i agree that gps is great, but i don't think it needed a keyboard.
Umm.... 2Gb internal storage?? And people were up in arms about the iPod Touch's 16Gb limit? Geez.
i've been anxious to try an N800 for a while. The keyboard makes it attractive. But without more file storage capability - it doesn't quite trump my iPod Touch.
quote "Umm.... 2Gb internal storage?? And people were up in arms about the iPod Touch's 16Gb limit? Geez."
The n800 has 2 high capacity sd slots ... i'm sure the n810 will have at least one. That can add lots of storage space.
http://www.nseries.com/nseries/v3/media/sections/products/tech_specs/en-R1/tech_specs_n810_en_R1.html
same ram, 128MB
what means "UP TO?" 2 GB of internal memory? r they 2 have different models of the n810?
I've wanted one of these since it was the 770. I will definitely be picking up one but I'll wait until it has WiMAX inside.
I'm a current owner of an N800 and I love it! I've been eagerly anticipating the release of the N810, but I have to admit that I'm having second thoughts at this price point. The specs just got posted to the nseries.com site and it lists the processor as "TI OMAP 2420, 400Mhz" and I'm not sure if that's much faster than the N800 (I think the N800 is 330Mhz?). It's also not clear if this model will have two SD card slots like the N800. I'm still really excited about this model, but as an N800 owner, I might wait a little while before putting any money down for the N810. Besides, I can already use GPS on my N800 with any bluetooth GPS device.
Man I'm disappointed in this one, same RAM and only 1 memorycard-slot.
where do you see that it has the same ram because im reading MORE RAM. maybe its my browser...
riggs, check
http://www.symbian-guru.com/welcome/2007/10/nokia-n810-inte.html
or
http://www.nseries.com/nseries/v3/media/sections/products/tech_specs/en-R1/tech_specs_n810_en_R1.html
An internet and media tablet with 2GB memory and 4 hour battery life for $479? Yeah, I know you should be able to get that a little cheaper, but whats the advantage over an unlocked 16GB iPod Touch for $399? Yeah the keyboard is nice, but the iPod is much sleeker, better battery life, MUCH better storage, I imagine better UI for media stuff...
Ahn... WVGA. 800x480 resolution.
And after surfing on a WVGA screen, all QVGA and HVGA surfing seems pointless.
not to mention the screen is bigger.
integrated GPS?
HID, FTP, DUN, GAP, SPP, HSP, SAP and OPP Bluetooth profiles?
As someone who owns an iPod Touch and a Nokia N800, I find the Nokia better in some ways. For example, I can do internet radio with the Nokia, not so much the iPod. I can run Pidgin (multi-protocol IM) on the Nokia, not so much the iPod. I can use a media streaming application from a UPnP server with the Nokia, not so much on the iPod. Can take pictures, make skype calls and do video conferencing on the Nokia. Not on the iPod.
Basically, the big difference is that the Nokia runs a standard operating system and supports a third party developer community that allows development of third party apps.
I realize apple just announced a 3rd party development kit for the iPod Touch/iPhone, but it isn't the same. Apple's vision is of a sort-of walled-garden where all applications have to be signed and approved in some way by apple. With the Nokia, assuming you have the skill, you can build, download, run and distribute applications yourself.
--Jim--
iPod Touch and iPhone require iTunes. Apple does not support Linux (though they're happy to take Linux software and repackage it for their own OS (ie: Safari)). So, those of us that prefer Linux are locked out of iPod Touch and iPhone.
Good luck getting me to switch back to Windows just to use iTunes.
iPod Touch? You're kidding, right?
There are major deficiencies compared to this N810 besides not having a real tactile keyboard and a bigger, higher resolution screen:
* no GPS
* no Flash (Apple lies to people about giving you the "real" Internet)
* no flash memory card slots for easy file transfer and unlimited expansion
* most of all, no iTunes requirement
I am buying this. And then I'm going to tether that with my current PDAphone.
This is perfect.
It would be nice if it did have at least an EVDO Rev. A chip in there. A nice CDMA radio would be even better.
i agree about the evdo rev a chip. then you could just leave your phone behind
Make sure you phone is supported. I could never get the N800 to work with my treo on Sprint. I ended up returning it because of this.
I'll try again with the 810.
This is useful.
Ok, I hate EG's comment system. This was in reply to that "LOL Y DUNT U GIT A TOUCH?!?!???!?!?!??" post.
I wonder if they dropped the camera, that did absolutely nothing on the N800
The camera is right there on the face of the device, to the left of the screen.
It seems like they replaced the swiveling camera with a fixed one on the front of the device.
801.11n? Dimensions? Weight?
Price seems rather steep considering the iPhone, iPod touch, and more recently, the Eee PC can all be had for less.
The n spec isn't even finalized yet. Why would Nokia add n?
Besides the EPC, this thing can actually do things. It's useful for people like me who have and use pdaphones for work.
The iPhone is only useful to people who want a phone and iPod together.
How are so many vendors shipping abgn wifi products then? It seems like Nokia could've done this too.
Just because it sn't finalized doesn't mean they can't ship it.
But the point is, it could change. All the people that got n products when they first came out can't use them with current n products.
I've never heard of a single device shipping with 802.11n... In fact, I'm entirely sure it's not possible (as Jesse pointed out). Draft-spec 802.11 radio wouldn't be a great idea in a portable device like this, and what use would 802.11n in particular be? There is no way you'd need more than 54Mbit...
Though I do agree with the comparison to the eee.
@Panq: The toughbook 52 supports abgn.
I think that Nokia should have a dual strategy and continue to make the N800 (perhaps slip in the faster CPU). Then u would have the choice of a basic model w/o gps etc but very hackable and a more upmarket model w gps.
My concern is that Nokia will cripple this device. i.e. I want maps of Europe and Asia for my travels. But if they price the haredware more expensive outside of the USA they might NOT want the gps to work on overseas maps.
I think it also should have some kind of easy car attachment to work as a car gps AND media device.
Prob,em is that at near $500 it clashes with the high range Asus 701 and low end laptops. Beats up on high priced tablet PCs though.
My conclusion si that if it can be disounted by retailers to just below $400 it will sell well.