And to round out today's
N810 coverage, we've got a hands-on of Nokia's new device. Anyone following Nokia's internet tablet devices knows that we've been asking for a QWERTY keyboard on the thing since day one -- it's just too bad the N810 keyboard disappoints us so. Sure, the keys are large, backlit, and far more tactile than on the
E90, but the top row is jammed right up against the bottom of the screen, making typing really difficult without keeping your thumbs totally perpendicular to the keyboard. The N810 could really benefit from the room of a few millimeters more slide if you ask us, but everything else was pure N-series tablet, and N800 (and possibly N700) owners can expect to get all the same software updates when the N810 launches. Check out the pictures, including some size comparisons to the iPhone.
Hmm it seems the CPU in the 810 is the SAME is in the 800!!! Just it's clocked faster at 400 versus 330.
Question: Can one overclock the 800 and get the faster perfromance out of that model?
This seems great, but the price difference with N800 is a bit heavy.
3D size comparer with iPhone and BB8700: http://johndyer.name/lab/sizer
Whoops: http://johndyer.name/lab/pv3d/sizer
Does it have any recent version of Opera?
YES. And Flash 9 support.
They dropped Opera in favor of the Mozilla-based MicroB browser, which is better anyway.
And Flash 9 works great now if the first hands-on reports can be believed. YouTube for example runs at about 15fps compared to maybe 2fps on the N800 with OS2007...
Nokia didn't drop Opera -- they'd be stupid to do so, as it runs rings around the Mozilla-based browser, which is only included to silence the inane Mozilla fanboys.
Looks like I'll be selling my N800 (that I got maybe 2 months ago) to get this one. Yeah, the 4-hour battery life isn't that long, but owners of the N800 and N770 will be used to it. Yeah, a couple more hours would've been nice though. However, the addition of the keyboard sold it for me. Overall I agree with Pdexter's post.
@ Kozzi... the N800 has 2 SDHC slots that compatible up to 8GB each (for 16GB total). There's one "external" slot that's accessible at the bottom, and one "internal" that's located underneath the battery cover (not underneath the batter).
I'm seeing a lot of complaints about battery life here. 4 hours on what appears to be a REMOVABLE battery in a device this slim? Sign me up.
If I understand a previous comment correctly, I can use a 3G + Bluetooth cellphone to bridge the N810 to do some 3G surfing? Will I still be able to accept calls? I notice Nokia says compatible cellphones. Is it a Nokia made list or is it a Bluetooth standard that so long as my cellphone abides by the standard I'll be Ok?
Where do I turn in my geek card for not knowing this?
I'll be confiscating your card thanks...
You can only tether by paying your carrier more $$$ (ATT tether plan is $70/mo I think). And when you tether on ATT it better be simple html/email only...anything else is a violation of TOS...and you get axed.
ATT (HSDPA) supports simultaneous voice/data sessions...but Verizon/Sprint (CDMA) don't.
By compatability I think Nokia means phones supporting BT DUN profile...but WM has axed dun at behest of carriers and now provides PAN only. I believe WM6 will re-enable DUN. Carriers don't want to make it easy for you to tether...
That's a "Yes", to all of your questions :) The N800/N810 will be able to use whatever data connection you have on your phone, be it GPRS/EDGE or HDSPA/3G. You will still be able to receive calls on your cell. Any phone that supports the Bluetooth DUN profile will work. Only some recent Windows Mobile devices have intentionally disabled DUN (so the operator can lock you in further), you might want to check that but otherwise you're probably good to go.
For all round web access ... this thing comes with a USB port...Is it possible to use a USB EVDO Rev A? Or a EVDO Rev A Express card with a usb connector?
Nokia and Boingo also announced global Wi-Fi access for the N800 and N810 today (as well as S60 handsets). You will be able to use your N800/N810 in tens of thousands of hotspots around the world for $8 a month.
http://www.boingo.com/pr/pr163.php
Does anybody knows if it is possible to use a Bluethooth keyboard with this gadget, it could be a nice notice that because you could type faster than with its own.
You can use bt gps and keyboards with the N800 easily. There is currently no support for bt headphones though.
Just to make it crystal clear, the N810 will still support BT keyboards too.
The biggest problem I've got with Nokia is that their products come with a premium price tag. Of course you have to pay for quality, but still it would be nice to get this thing for 200€ off the shelf. The thing is it'll probably be something like 460€ after the taxes. Makes brands like Apple look cheap.. anyways I'll get one for sure!
OK, that does it. I've lost my mind. That thing is YUMMY-LISCIOUS SQUARED! Did you just hear that loud noise out front? That's me crashing my car. Hurry, dial 911.
this is how the PSP should look like!
It need a touch screen too!
Johan S, why must everything have an integrated phone feature? This Nokia N810 is not a phone, nor intended to be one. The extra $40/mo or so is a HUGE impediment to many people who just want something to use at home without booting up the big ole fire breathing virus infested PC every time they just want to do something simple like check email, the weather, stock prices, etc. Now something that should take "just a minute", will.
What is it with Nokia and not including charging via USB port!! It's one of the 3 things that really bugs me about the N95, along with internal RAM and battery life.
Yes I know you can get "adapters" but why when nearly everyone has a USB cable they can just attach to their pc's etc. Surely it would also save a small amount of cost and even space to not have a dedicated charging socket.
the n800s thumb keyboard was fine. it just needed to open and close faster and have Apple's proximity weighted spell-correction grafted on. It was already faster and more natural than using a crappy slideout.
And seriously, whose big idea was it to put the d-pad on the slide-out? That's horrible from a usability standpoint. Unless they're actually shipping a bluetooth media remote, or put media remote controls on the headset. That'd be alright.
Awesome looking tablet. I don't know what I'd do without my 770. I use it several times a day now thanks to the unsupported apps. It'd be worth the $ to upgrade just for the 16GB capable storage (2 8GB chips) and extra cpu/ram over my 770.
I wish the gpe suite was officially supported though. I'd pay to have the gpe entries refresh properly and to have it easily sync with my web based groupware solution. I find these features indespensible and keep gpe apps open all day long.
THERE WAS NEVER AN N700 it was nokia 770 and nokia N series N800 wich will also be able to upgrade to MAEMO 4.0(OS. 2008)
Anyone know if the 810 can be charged via USB, unlike the 800? I hate having to carry special chargers/adapters when traveling.
I like nokia, but why should not i buy a 9xxx communicator, or a E-series instead? Any ideas?
The n810 sizewise is closely like Toshiba g900, HTC Omni, IMATE 7150 but no phone??? Nokia N810 doesn't make much sence, I don't want to carry 2 devices again and the headache with Internet through Bluetooth, connect, disconnect, errors... Most of the users of this type of devices are not concerned about the "not sexy" "bricklike" look (i am not), besides many of us use bluetooth earpiece 80% - 90% of the time and bigger phone size is not an issue at all. They were so close of finaly getting it done...sad
Let's not forget that the N810 also comes with 2GB of internal memory. Still, I'm disappointed the screen can only show 64K colors, which is a deal breaker for me after having used a Cowon. It's fine for those who are not as picky or just want it mainly for Internet surfing, Linux hacking, and games emulation.
I've been waiting for an N800 with keyboard, GPS and proper flash support.
The only problem I can see is that number keys are on the top row instead of being arranged like on the Treo. This was a problem with the HTC Wizard which they ended up fixing - hope Nokia sort it out before release.
They sell it already on Ebay?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Nokia-N810-Internet-Tablet-brand-new-in-the-Box_W0QQitemZ230189357840QQihZ013QQcategoryZ38331QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Do you think it's real?
as far as i can tell the super deal breaker is that the n810 does not offer navigation free to be used with the gps. you apparently need to pay for a 3 year subscription for $130.
without the subscription, all you can see is your placement on the map, without directions to get anywhere. what good is that?
pleez tell me im wrong.
Hi,
You all complain about the phone but if you have internet you have Skype which is $30 per year unlimited US and Canada. What do you need more?
If you like to pay hunderds of dollars per month to your cell company be my guest.
Can the Nokia N810 work with Verizon or Sprint USB mobile broadband access.
Forumer.com is giving away one of these in a contest that ends on New Years eve.
info here > http://fhq.forumer.com/showthread.php?t=72677
The keyboard was not a problem for me. Perhaps if you would cut your nails to a reasonable length it would be OK for you too.