Call me stupid.. but how does adding the ability to play HD discs "limit the user's experience". I would snap up a 360 with HDMI and integrated HDDVD drive in a second. I don't want to have an extra box hanging off my 360 just to play movies. Or am I missing something here?
Because the HD-DVD drive can only spin at 2x speed, where the DVD drive can spin at 12x speed. So by building in a HD-DVD drive, you're effectively dropping load speeds to 16% of what they could be.
I've never had a problem with load times when the DVD drive has slowed down in my 360. I would certainly take a much quieter 360 with a bit longer load times than the one we have now.
Not quite. A 2xHD-DVD reads at 8.8 MBs, compare to a 16XDVD which reads at 15.85 MBs. Your original point stands; the 2xHD-DVD drive does read data slower than a 12xDVD drive, but the drop is only about 40%, not 84%.
Aye, the forthcoming 4X HD-DVD drives will be sufficient. (As an aside, one popular critique of the PS3 is that it's 2X Blu-Ray drive is slower than the 360's DVD drive for the exact same reason.)
Because if a HD DVD drive was added to the main part of the 360, it would be more and more tempting for MS to up the 360's main disc format to HD DVD, leaving all other Xbox 360s high and dry, shelling out £100~ for a HD-DVD box which will be slower than the internal drive (data transfer wise). So yes, it is limiting for older adopters.
The thing that is limiting about the xbox 360 add on, is that the Xbox doesn't output 7.1 channels of uncompressed PCM or raw Dolby TrueHD bitstreams over the HDMI.
That's what I was hoping this rumored 360 was about. That they would add highdef audio output to the HDMI port and make it a fully HDMI 1.3a device. Then that way you could plug in either the HD-DVD drive or future blu-ray drive and enjoy the format to its fullest extent.
It's laughable some of the totally uneducated comments here. But then that how Microsoft managed to sell 11 million Xbox360's right...
@Fred 2x HD DVD is not directly comparable with the 360's 12x DVD(actually it's 8x DVD on dual layer 9GB games)
@stretchsje Read up on the difference between CAV and CLV. You will see that infact PS3's Blu-ray drive is marginally faster than the 360's DVD drive.
The reason WHY Microsoft can't do this, is to acually make buisness sense to include HD DVD (or more likely Blu-ray, as by the time the console is ready, HD DVD will be dead and buried), they would have to make games on HD DVD, and that would leave 11 million Xbox360 onwners in the lurch. But then they did exactly that with the original Xbox, by burying it so soon.
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Call me stupid.. but how does adding the ability to play HD discs "limit the user's experience". I would snap up a 360 with HDMI and integrated HDDVD drive in a second. I don't want to have an extra box hanging off my 360 just to play movies. Or am I missing something here?
Because the HD-DVD drive can only spin at 2x speed, where the DVD drive can spin at 12x speed. So by building in a HD-DVD drive, you're effectively dropping load speeds to 16% of what they could be.
I've never had a problem with load times when the DVD drive has slowed down in my 360. I would certainly take a much quieter 360 with a bit longer load times than the one we have now.
Not quite. A 2xHD-DVD reads at 8.8 MBs, compare to a 16XDVD which reads at 15.85 MBs. Your original point stands; the 2xHD-DVD drive does read data slower than a 12xDVD drive, but the drop is only about 40%, not 84%.
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Aye, the forthcoming 4X HD-DVD drives will be sufficient. (As an aside, one popular critique of the PS3 is that it's 2X Blu-Ray drive is slower than the 360's DVD drive for the exact same reason.)
Because if a HD DVD drive was added to the main part of the 360, it would be more and more tempting for MS to up the 360's main disc format to HD DVD, leaving all other Xbox 360s high and dry, shelling out £100~ for a HD-DVD box which will be slower than the internal drive (data transfer wise). So yes, it is limiting for older adopters.
The thing that is limiting about the xbox 360 add on, is that the Xbox doesn't output 7.1 channels of uncompressed PCM or raw Dolby TrueHD bitstreams over the HDMI.
That's what I was hoping this rumored 360 was about. That they would add highdef audio output to the HDMI port and make it a fully HDMI 1.3a device. Then that way you could plug in either the HD-DVD drive or future blu-ray drive and enjoy the format to its fullest extent.
It's laughable some of the totally uneducated comments here. But then that how Microsoft managed to sell 11 million Xbox360's right...
@Fred 2x HD DVD is not directly comparable with the 360's 12x DVD(actually it's 8x DVD on dual layer 9GB games)
@stretchsje Read up on the difference between CAV and CLV. You will see that infact PS3's Blu-ray drive is marginally faster than the 360's DVD drive.
The reason WHY Microsoft can't do this, is to acually make buisness sense to include HD DVD (or more likely Blu-ray, as by the time the console is ready, HD DVD will be dead and buried), they would have to make games on HD DVD, and that would leave 11 million Xbox360 onwners in the lurch. But then they did exactly that with the original Xbox, by burying it so soon.