Even if it's smaller, cooler, and cheaper than
its higher end brethren, that unfortunately doesn't mean it's better: the formerly G92-codenamed
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT sits in the middle of the 8800-series with a single slot configuration that uses 100 Watts less power than the top of the range model, but with a lower clock speed and six less "stream processors." It's a fair bit higher spec than the GTX and GTS models though, with the same "stream processor" (what the hell are these?) clock speed as the Ultra at 1500MHz, and a memory frequency of 900MHz. It also supports PCIe 2.0 and the
PureVideo HD engine which offloads H.264 encoding onto the GPU. It sells for between $199-249, and should be available within the next few days at the usual online stores.
posted Oct 29th 2007 10:00AM
Could it fit into a laptop?
Will it blend?
No it won't blend in your laptop, but it will play Doom.
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3140
I'm getting one of these as soon as they are available in the UK. All I can find at the moment is one on eBay from china :((
my last graphics card purchase was a 6600GT. A few days ago i start reading up on things for an imminent upgrade and the 'stream processors' thing had me scratching my head too. I'm sure it won't be long 'til I find out what they are tho.
Years ago there wasn't one mention of stream processors. I hope they mean better fluid dynamics :)
Stream Processor: What the author of this post wishes his Apple had, since they're the best thing since sliced bread.
Sorry, the apple comment may be a little much, but really now? If you just type the words "stream processor" into Wikipedia, it will take you right to the entry, and you can get the gist of it from the first 2 sentences:
Stream processing is a relatively new, yet quite successful paradigm to allow parallel processing at never-before-seen efficiency with minimal effort. In certain applications requiring massive vector operations, this can yield several orders of magnitude higher performance than a conventional CPU.
In other words: They're awesome, fast as lightning, with the right software they can be used for more traditional tasks such as folding@home, but faster than a PS3, and they're pretty power efficient, to boot. I'm doing my part to save the planet since this new card uses less juice than my current one. Which is why I just ordered mine. Now just need folding for Nvidia cards.
the Wiki knows all, thanks JD (and others who responded).
this card also outperforms the 8800GTS and comes damn close to outperforming the 8800GTX. and it costs about half as much as them.
http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3140
Other sites are coming to the same conclusion:
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1210/1
(click if you dare. Very slow as of now)
Why the he'll did apple ditch them, for the piece of shiet ATI, I have to say that was a bone head move right there, now Macs are Freezing like Krazy because of this and its been two months and no cure for the problem yet on new Macs. I hope someone got fire for this bone head move, am about to suckered someone on ebay with my new imac to get the older model
The 2400 and 2600 series are cheap to manufacture, fanless and that neat UVD chip. nVidia is behind AMD in those categories, ergo Apple heart DAAMiT.
Seriously, this is a tech site??? Stream processors are the "new" vertex + pixel shaders crammed together they aren't quite as powerful as either, but can be applied as is demanded so they are more efficient. You can call them unified shaders if you want, they are just NVIDIA's term for it. They've been calling them that since Feb. of this year..
aye, referred to as stream processors as they are capable of physics calculations too iirc
Yeah, that's what we've been telling for years about an apple pc. Your not in control of your own hardware!
This is a Apple fan site that also reports tech news.
It's not there job to know anything or even type it into Wikipedia 2 minutes before you send it to the editor so you don't look like a tard. nope, not at all.
This article was written by someone who can't be arsed with those "definition" things unless it pertains to Apple.
Who cares, it's not like it's revolutionary like MULTITOUCH
Engadget you have quite a bit wrong specs wise but whatever.....
Of interesting note, read the full review at HardOCP. It blows away the GTS's but they just got word from Nvidia that they are going to be changing the specs of the GTS's now.... WTF? So now I have to wait and see if the new and improved GTS's are better than the GT's lol.
Since the 8800GT was announced the GTS 320MB was always going to be discontinued and the 640MB bumped up a bit spec-wise (to keep above the new 8800GT), I think it's more stream processors and something else, possibly the G92 chip.
Any new info on a new flagship card?
"which offloads H.264 encoding onto the GPU"
Shouldn't that be "which offloads H.264 DECODING onto the GPU"???
I hope not. It would be pretty sweet to be able to speed up those transcoding sessions with a little help from the GPU.
No Mac support. Pfft. I suppose that's one of the biggest drawbacks of being a Mac user. Limited choice of GPUs.
they can't game anyways - just go get some quattro cards built for work.
So the hierarchy is Ultra, GT, GTX, GTS?
Nope. It's Ultra > GTX > GT > GTS. For now.
thanks santa.
Hmm, Might go back to making a gaming build now, this looks nice!
im kinda pissed, i shelled out for a gts and the gt comes out and costs less, uses less power, performs better, and only uses 1 slot? i def got shafted.
I feel your pain. I just got the GTS two weeks ago.
Damn it. I just bought dual 8500gt's for SLI on sale at Best Buy, and now this one comes out for only about 50 more than I paid. These bastards. Still, I think that 1 gig of total video memory will help me out some.
Cards in SLi do not pool memory, 2 512MB graphics cards in SLi still have only 512MB of usable video memory.
should have bought from EVGA...they have a pretty nice step-up program and an AWESOME warranty (e.g. mine caught fire and they didn't ask any questions)
Tip:
Don't buy computer hardware at Best Buy. You probably paid 40% more than you should've.
No, at that point I paid less than I would have on Newegg, and even now it's the same price that Newegg lists.
Nice pricepoint. I'm stuck on a 8600GT because I have a nice, fanless card from Gigabyte. Performs about the same as my old 7900GT. Once they can get the temperatures down for a fanless version, I'm in.
Accodring to AnandTech.com there is at least one company which will come out with a fanless version. This is truly a revolutionary product at the price point. If you take the less expensive version i.e 200$ and take it in SLI the performance is even better than a single GTX which retails for about 500$ so you get something truly better performance for 100$ less.
This imo is something which AMD will have nightmares about. For people who have older gen cards this one delivers in terms of performance and power at a price more than reasonably justified. Hope the street price and availability keeps them at that rate.
I would have to disagree with this, though. Unfortunately, SLI doesn't give the full 2X power that a single card would give you.
And I will quote this article while saying of course that the power you get is of course not 2x the GT single card the performance is very much better than a single 8800GTX.
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3140
The card is actually pretty close to the GTX in one on one and is actually much better than the GTS card which is much more expensive(I think close to 400$).
I haven't upgraded for ever (I use a laptop) but I know this will be my next card for sure when I build my workstation.
W00T! Now just come out with a low profile version and I'll buy it immediately for my slimlines. Unfortunately, I don't think this will ever happen!
It's only 1 slot, how much lower do you want it to go?
I want it low profile (i.e. half height) so it'll fit in my slimeline cases. C'mon... is it too much to ask? lol
Yeah i wish they also release a low profile board ..sucks to have a slimline case you only have a limited card to choose
Yes. These things are hot as it is. Your basically just asking for the impossible right now.
Yea, i understand you were joking. I was just being an ass.
Only shows how sucky ATI cards are... taking up twice the width (2 slots) whilst performing worse.
Yeah - I thought this was supposed to be a tech site?? If you have no idea what a stream processor is, then maybe someone else should handle writing PC hardware news for one of the leading new technology info sites on the internet. Putting a jessica simpson "uh... what is a stream processor" makes this place seem to have uneducated people writing for it. Not that you should automatically have detailed knowledge of every piece of gear out there, but come on, go to wikipedia, type in "stream processor", spend 5 minutes learning what it is, then write the article.
Also, the first sentence seems to imply that the card isn't all that great, when in actuality you are getting about 90% or more of the performance of the very fastest $500 video cards available for less than $250. It's quite a big deal in the video card world, this is a great card at a great price.
"Also, the first sentence seems to imply that the card isn't all that great, when in actuality you are getting about 90% or more of the performance of the very fastest $500 video cards available for less than $250. It's quite a big deal in the video card world, this is a great card at a great price."
Even calling it quite a big deal might be an understatement. I'd call it huge, myself. I'll be in the market for a new machine in a few months, and this totally changed the directions I could go with the build.
I JUST BOUGHT A GTS FOR £252 YESTERDAY AND THEN THIS?!
GAH!
BETTER PERFORMING, LESS WATTAGE, SMALLER CARD FOR £100 LESS?!?!
GAHHHHHHHHHHH
I got fucking owned.
I feel a bit sorry for you... damn, I'd get a blackout if I was on your place.
I'm a bit pissed, too, you know. I bought a GTX 2 months ago for $600 and now THIS??
Just remember, the GTX is still better (thats what i tell myself, since the price of two of these = the GTX with alot more performance).
And i always get EVGA. They have that trade up program so you can trade in your card for its full value, and pay the difference to get another card. I wonder if it works down (because, technically, the GT is a lesser card).
Cool! I was going to get OC 8800GTS. Maybe, for a few bucks more I'll two of these, via SLI!
Stream Processor have the ability to either be pixel shaders or vertex shaders depending on what is needed by the game.
Or geometry shaders.
Yea, i get you were joking. Im just being an ass.
Why does hitting the reply button cause my browser to refresh, send me down to the comment section, but not display the replying to until i hit reply again?
Third time already.
NOBODY can say PC gaming is too expensive now.
yes they can...this option just makes it a little bit more affordable :D Definitely looking forward to this card!
I might wait until after Christmas when the prices level out and pick one of these up to replace my 8600GTS in my Dell. This looks like a killer deal.
Just imagine two of these cards in SLI - it'd definitely out-do the GTX for the same price as one and maybe not be super far behind the Ultra.
Anyone know if any of the 88xx cards allow video input? All I see are video out.As for this card, great price vs performance but isn't nvidia releasing some newer models soon?
Good Thing I held off on my new rig I was about to purchase & build last month. This is a sweet deal, but I can find the cheapest one for $260 at the usual places... hopefully it'll reach the $200 price point soon.
Lowest I've seen is $229 at Fry's
http://shop3.outpost.com/product/5434329
Stream processing is very new, and should be a technique which we will see used more often in the days to come. Check out what WikiPedia has to offer about the subject.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_processing
Cheers,
Josh
Umm, so does this mean the price is going to drop on the GTX? I could really stand to drop a second one of those in my comp before Crysis comes out.
Dear Nvidia,
Thank you.
Master 'strapped for space in his case' CKO