Dell's
XPS One -- by now you know just about all there is, right? Well, did you know that the XPS One and
A2010 are one and the same? According to details provided to us, we now know that the entire rear cover slides off with the simple removal of a pair of under-mounted screws. Unusual for all-in-one PCs this sleek. That gives enthusiasts easy access to the 3.5-inch SATA disk, optical disc drive, discrete graphics card, and 2x DIMM slots for memory upgrades. There's also a fair bit of polish with nine touch-capacitive media buttons (volume, play/pause, FF, etc.) along the right-side bezel which remain illuminated indefinitely when sensing (via proximity sensor) the presence of your fingers. The buttons automatically dim as you move away. The optical drive displays a blue arc outlining an inserted disc but does not offer any type of manual, forced eject -- a Dell field service call is required to remove any stuck media (gulp). Complete specs after the break, all sorts of sexy in the gallery.
Update: Oh, and this model features a 20-inch 1,680 x 1050 display according to the new specs -- not
22-inch as we originally heard. Of course, there are likely to be different sized models released so we're not disappointed, yet.
posted Oct 30th 2007 7:18AM
Nekkid Computer pR0n heh heh heh
Dang, Now you've got coolent all over the place!
So ... it took the rest of the computer industrie how long to understand that Apple is right with changing the consumer desktop to a simpler design?
Too long.
Welcome, Dell. Finally.
All-in-one LCD PCs weren't the creation of Apple.
Apple fanboys jump on engadget to denounce new products, claiming they are copies of Apple's "orginals".
You never realize the wide product assortment out there that has nothing to do with apple until someone points it out to you.
Iphones ripped off LG PRADA.
CLICKWHEEL is NOT NEW... Apple got that after analyzing Creative Labs'
As for these all-in-one PC's, I've seen these in Japan long before imac's came out - made by NEC. Apple isn't doing ANYTHING new so stop your cheerleading.
Oh, no ... can't you come up with anything else but this Fanboy talk?
I'm not a fanboy, but a designer who is TIRED of bad design.
And this thing is not "designed". There's no brainwork in it.
And, please: it doesn't matter at all who made what first: who made it best is what really counts. And when I see this lame, uninspired, crummy all-in-one pc (I'm not blaming a rip-off) it just makes me feel sick.
I like good design. It makes me happy. I hate bad design. Makes me unhappy.
Look: The loudspeakers. Couldn't they have come up with a way to hide them? Now it looks like a cheap TV. They didn't think much about that.
Look at the port layout. It's crowded, It's crummy. SD port? Oh, no ... here we go again.
BLUE LEDS everywhere.
But, Dick, you seem to be in the "target group", hm? Like Too Fast, Too Furious a lot, hm? Hey, Britney Spears has a new Album out ... go fetch it ...
Maybe, when I think about it again, it's brilliantly designed. It's the iMac for Apple hating nerds.
It has everything nobody, but you, needs: SD port, TV port, rofl port, blue leds, 2f2f design ... wow ... finally ... you can have you Apple and still have all that bad design.
Both with Dell and Apple, it's not technically a new, simpler design, is it? You may not remember, but back in the day, computers used to be all one unit. Separating the monitor from the rest of the hardware was once an innovation. Now we are returning to that old philosophy (but in prettier packages). I don't think Apple has any more of a right to claim innovation by returning to this old method with the iMac than Dell or Gateway given it is technically the way computers were historically manufactured.
@TMM - Wow, you really are a jerk. Perhaps if there weren't a tonne of Apple consumers like you who constantly boast about the perceived superiority of the product that they buy (how childish and pathetic by the way), then Apple fans in general wouldn't come in for such criticism.
Now if you were really concerned about design, and not about who did what first, then you wouldn't give two shits about "copying".
Fact is, this is a sleek and compact design, which should suit a whole range of PC users right down to the ground. Whether or not it even vaguely resembles any Apple products is completely unimportant.
Oh yeah, and I love your snidey comments on other users potential music choices...what a ridiculous poster you are.
In my opinion, I'm sorry to see Dell make an all-in-one like apple's. I want to be able to mod my computer and upgrade it . . that's one reason I would never buy an apple. If I wanted an all-in-one I would just buy a laptop . . everything is included----and mobile! How is this a step forward in computer design? It's basically a laptop that's plugged into a wall.
If apple wants to claim responsibility for designing this, then I'll give it to them . . the design sucks. But I'm glad Dell made there own design. It definitely looks better compared to a piece of white plastic next to a bunch of home theater equipment.
Let me guess, you like asymmetry too and think everything symmetrical is horribly simple, bland, and ugly? Oh and Blobitecture is fantastic, right? You must love things that simply look aesthetically good, but once had do not really function at all. I hate your mindset of form over function. This seems to be a trend that has taken over in the last 20 years; especially in the world of architecture. Simply because something looks pretty, does not make it any better. You also know nothing to do with aesthetics. Anyone who claims that they do is either lying or completely insane. You have a taste and nothing more.
You speak of design? As if you know any better than most designers. Please, just stop.
@TMM As a designer you should know that products are designed for the consumer and not for the designer, and the consumers have spoken.
"Look: The loudspeakers. Couldn't they have come up with a way to hide them? Now it looks like a cheap TV."
Let me get this straight. So having visible speakers on an all-in-one PC bothers you, but having a huge chin doesn't?
And you're a designer?
"Look: The loudspeakers. Couldn't they have come up with a way to hide them? Now it looks like a cheap TV."
So you'd prefer a giant chin over visible speakers? And you're a designer? Who hired you?
Crap, sorry about the double post. My first comment wasn't showing up.
Engadget really needs a delete option.
Look, jerks ... I will cite Stephen Fry:
I welcomed the Macintosh in 1984 because it functioned better than any personal computer around at the time. It took Bill Gates an incredibly long time to come round to Windows, Icons, Mice and Pulldown menus, but come round he did. Believe me, when we championed that WIMPs user interface back in the mid-80s, we were regularly accused of, yes, championing style over substance, of being pretentious and arty about machines that were just supposed to "function". So you can guess that I certainly do think design is important. But it doesn't have to come from Apple. In fact, I wish to goodness it came from everywhere. I hope you'll believe I'm not an unthinking slave to Cupertino. Apple gets plenty of small things wrong, but one big thing it gets right: when you use a device every day, you cannot help, as a human being, but have an emotional relationship with it. It's true of cars and cookers, and it's true of computers. It's true of office blocks and houses, and it's true of mobiles and satnavs. A grey box is not good enough, clunky and ugly is not good enough. Sick building syndrome exists, and so does sick hand-held device syndrome. Fiddly buttons, blocky icons, sickeningly stupid nested menus - these are the enemy. They waste time, militate against function and lower the spirits. They make the user feel frustrated and (quite wrongly) dense. Mechanisms so devilishly, stunningly, jaw-dropping clever as the kind our world can now furnish us with are No Good Whatsoever if they don't also bring a smile to our face, if they don't make us want to stroke, touch, fondle, fiddle, gurgle, purr and coo. Interacting with a digital device should be like interacting with a baby.
So, yes, beauty matters. Boy, does it matter. It is not surface, it is not an extra, it is the thing itself. Le style, c'est le truc, as De Buffon would have written today.
Yep TMM, I guess you're right. Looks is everything in sales. Therefore the better looking computer should have the best sales, no? So #1, using your logic, windows is the best looking operating system, and always was. PCs look better than macs, and always have . . . and so on.
I think you're kinda proving our point bud.
And may I add, after looking more closely: It's poorely designed. No ideas. No imagination. Nothing new. And an ugly exterior design ... you would expect from a PC company, like Dell. Maybe good for office. Takes up fewer space. That's it. Bkc to the drawing board, please.
I'm right there with you. At first when I heard about this I thought "now I'll just wait. Give it 6 months, and every hardcore Windows user I know will want one of these things." But now I'm having my doubts. These things just aren't worth it. They don't really have an appealing design. I know I wouldn't buy one, and I don't think any PC user I know would buy one either.
Listen, Apple did it already...yawn.
I can't beleive this garbage is getting so much publicitiy on engadget.
Mac comps will ALWAYS outperform winsux boxes not matter what, read it for yourself PCMag just said the best laptop to run vista on is, yup you guessed it a MBP...
So come on dell, give it up already. Trying to copy the competition to get an edge? Listen, why don't you guys come up with something revolutionary like, i dunno, an ipod or an iphone then we will talk.
For goodness sake people, ipod AND iphone from the same company? thats bringing new stuff to the table, this dell xps one is just a reiteration on a brilliant concept 10 years too late.
Sorry, its my usual early morning rant X-D
I'm sorry I brought you hear, brain. I didn't think [i]they[/i] would be hear. I really do want the fanboys to stop, too.
Dell releases an all-in-one computer and you berate them for not having invented the iPod and the iPhone. Does Apple pay its customers to talk total sh*t or are there slow-release psychotropic iDrugs in their products...
YEAH, just like Apple invented the MP3 player and used marketing strategy to confuse lay people into thinking Ipods were something more than a basic MP3 player.
It's people like you who make me ashamed to use a Mac...
it is people like you who make me want to use a mac, just to prove you wrong
Yeah Stanley. But Sony did it before Apple so you should be telling Engadget not to post anymore silly Imac news.
eh, it's a dell which means:
a. the hard drive WILL fail...
b. it will be preloaded with so much crap, it will run like a 386 with only base memory.
Dell makes hard drives now?
nah, they just pick really crappy ones and fail to vent them properly.
at my last employer out of 240 new computers, we had 137 hard drive failures...yes, we kept count. moreso on laptops than on desktops.
@Tom
Sorry I have to call Bullshit on that one. Dell picks anything from Seagate to WD hard drives. Most that are mainstream.
You know my opinion? It's not the hardware that counts. I could have an E-Machine run 2 years and a Dell last 2 seconds...But Dell can offer wayyyyy better support.
With that being said I have had Dell servers work perfectly. My laptop has had no problem.
To me it's who offers the best support that get's my money. Dell has everyone else beat.
You know, guys, Apple didn't exactly invent the "All-In-One" PC. Admittedly, they popularised it by making CRT All-In-Ones which weren't ungodly abominations (simply being a Mac helped, the PCs were terribly compromised because of the need to use standard parts IIRC), but it's hardly "ripping Apple off" for someone to stick a computer in a monitor.
I'm somewhat dubious about the "discrete graphics card". I can't even tell where it is in that picture, and it comes with laptop GPUs, so discrete or not, I don't think this is going to be very upgrade-friendly. And will performance fans (i.e. the XPS brand's target market) be impressed with a laptop chip in the first place?
true, true
I have a Dell, not a mac ( i'm getting a mac this christmas) but our dell has BLUESCREANED ~12 times
that is just plain bad for a NEW computer!
Yes because Dell is responsible for the functioning OS.
*sigh*
BSOD is usually the problem of careless end user running programs they shouldn't be.
I have been using various Dells, ThinkPads and home built PC and I only ever BSOD twice over the last six years.
Wow . Apple is not the first with all in one pc's. I have an old p2 400 all in one lcd computer. We also have an all in one lcd thats a pentium 4 from gateway. Stop with the dell bashing. Apple was not the first to do this.
Another copy stuff...
iMac has been around for 10 years already... And the PC companies.... Just copying...
Why dont you just die already.
I picked up an all-in-one Acer in 1996.
But why even speak truth to you people since all you spit out is horse sh*t.
Well copy this... I'm looking to purchase a computer gift this Christmas and I like this computer a LOT!
It's an all-in-one device, it looks good, Dell has very good support; better that Apple's and it runs WINDOWS! those last two are very important to me. So that means Dell/this PC just got my money!
So when is this bad boy going to be release and how much does it cost? I got some shopping to do!
Signed ACTC 10.4
LOL
Actually, they did. Do a Wiki or Google the 20th Anniversary Mac. . . and you will see an LCD system, with Bose speakers, etc. To my knowledge that was the first all-in-one LCD system on the market. At least in the domestic US market. Who knows about Asia.
I had a Monorail PC which came out the same year as the 20th anniversary mac. It was a lot more compact and elegant. A lot slower too, but it only cost $1000 versus the $7500 the Mac cost.
Where in this post does it mention Apple?
The answer.....nowhere.
Please do not ink these pages with irrelevant information. I realise this is somewhat similar in design to the iMac, but you guys should be flattered. When someone gets a design correct, it is only natural that other designers develop on it. Plagiarise is perhaps too strong a word here.
I for one am glad that PC manufacturers are starting to adopt this design. Any more space in my study will be greatly appreciated. I won't be buying this however, for all of the above reasons that are not apple related.
Rant over.
Now, apple fanboys, please proceed to ignore me and any other rationally thinking individuals who care to attempt to stifle your "creativity".
i will listen and go have breakfast now
rant over
Best of all is that it doesn't have a huge Jay Leno Chin.
Wow, I love Apple and all but the fanboys are out of control these days. Someone throw them an iPhone to keep them distracted. This is a nice attempt by Dell to put out some quality PCs, And I think the XPS series all seem to have something going for them. The only thing PC-related I have a problem with is well, Microsoft. Maybe this as a Linux box. Either way prob still a good gaming solution.
Theres something deeper seated in all these wildly immature comments that the tweenagers on here seem to be throwing about though. Its like they can't see things in shades of grey, so they have to pick either PC or Mac, and then form their horribly biased arguments for why one is better than the other. Then something comes along that shakes the foundations of those really paper thin arguments (ie. a PC in a nice looking form factor for a change) and they can't handle it, lashing out with pointless absurdities as can be seen in many posts above and below yours.
Kudos to you for being able to recognise the grey areas and the positive direction this design takes!
Whats that printed all over the gallery pictures... 'DELL CONFIDENTIAL. FOR INTERNAL USE ONLY'
tut tut Engadget...
I want to know who the genius was who leaked them... Way to lose your job over something meaningless!
The Apple fanboys who trash-talk Dell for ripping off Apple are missing the point. And the Dell defender(s) who point out that Apple didn't invent this style of computer are also missing the point.
Apple doesn't sell computers. It sells design. It sells style. Apple appeals to people who have taste. This craptacular Dell appeals to people who have no taste. Same with the iPod - nothing new there, but it's well integrated and tasteful.
So if Dell's latest piece of design garbage appeals to you, by all means, climb into the Pontiac Sunbird, drive to Wal-Mart, and buy one.
Yep, Apple fans are all about style:
http://commedioretardio.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/loltech2.jpg
Im glad I own a PC.
it seems that when you enter a CD a blue semi-ring lights up, which is a really cool aesthetic and usability feature
"Blah blah Apple this", "Blah blah Apple that".
It's a PC, a Dell PC, not an Apple, not a banana, not a Gateway.
Come up with a new argument or just shaddup and go play with your uber-chic iMac.
Pedants....
Yeah. Maybe next time strobe lights could go off when you insert a RAM stick.
Hardware and upgradeability aside. Apple's iMac design beats the rest hands down. Honestly, which all-in-one would you rather have sitting atop your desk? Apple products aren't perfect but at least, their designs made one a proud owner.
In the beginning Apple created the heavens and the earth.
Genesis 1:1
New American Idiot Standard Bible (©2007)
Funboys (any of them) suck!!!!
While it might not be as sexy as the new iMac I appreciate the fact that Dell made it easier to upgrade it by allowing you such access to the insides of this PC. While not everyone will take advantage of this it's certainly something that will benefit many users by allowing them to upgrade the computer without having to buy a whole new one. Maybe Apple should take a cue from them.
Wrabbit -
Any iMac can be opened up with 3 screws. It's every bit as accessible as this Dull is.
What a lying sack of sh*t.
http://forums.macnn.com/58/imac-emac-and-mac-mini/351028/how-hard-upgrade-new-imacs-hard/
For those who dont want to click:
Q: "How hard is it to upgrade new iMac's hard drive?"
A: "In a word Yes, very hard."
Heres the instructions: http://home.comcast.net/~woojo/DFFA53A0-F23D-4541-9015-481FD3B6532E/iMac_Disassembly.html
I only respond coarsely due to the fact that i replaced the hard drive on my iBook which required me to take apart over 30 screws.
Um, no. The original iMac G5s could be opened with three screws. When the second generation iMacs came out (with the slimming, remote, front row, iSight, etc) Apple locked them down harder than Fort Knox. Same thing for the original Intel iMacs. And now the new aluminum/glass models are even harder.
The more you know.
"Any iMac can be opened up with 3 screws."
What part of "any" dont you get. If at least one cant be opened up with 3 screws (or easily for that matter), then not all of them do, which would validate the use of the word any.
The dell is a current product, and therefore rightfully is compared with Apples recent produce. You bringing up G4 is absolutely useless since no one is going to pick up a G4 when "currently" shopping for an all-in-one.
I have an iMac G5. Didn't realize the Intel iMacs are harder to access. That means - you win. You are correct! Think about it - revel in it. This is going to be a great day for you - and it's not even lunch time yet. Enjoy the moment!
Ruben - I wasn't talking about the G4 iMac, buddy.
I meant the G5 iMac that carthis brought up, not the G4.
But you made an attempt to elevate a mac product above one contained in this post, so as to promote some sort of supremacy of that product over another, all the while being incorrect or unclear in your assertion that there was equal accessibility.
Had you said the G5, there would be no issue.
And thats some funny stuff, calling it a "Dull" instead of a "Dell". Your bias isn't obvious.
I meant the G5 iMac that carthis brought up, not the G4.
But you made an attempt to elevate a mac product above one contained in this post, so as to promote some sort of supremacy of that product over another, all the while being incorrect or unclear in your assertion that there was equal accessibility.
Had you said the G5, there would be no issue.
And thats some funny stuff, calling it a "Dull" instead of a "Dell". Your bias isn't obvious.
Looks like it's going to be a pain in the ass to work on. Just like the iMac. At least it looks like you don't need a credit card to open it up like the mac. Though, I'm sure they skipped a couple steps on the back removal pics. They could have at least done some decent cable management in there. Looks like someone dumped a pot of spaghetti in there.
Ruben - I'm a bit confused. If you read my original post, my point was that Apples generally are tasteful and well designed, and Dells are poorly designed, appealing mainly to people who drive Pontiacs.
And for the record, to upgrade the memory in the newest iMacs, you remove just one small panel and pull a tab, which is probably easier than what's required on the Dell.
Also, it seems my bias has offended you. Here's some more: I love iMacs, and think Dells are garbage. I love OS X and think Windows is garbage. That's not "bias," that's opinion. I'm not a journalist. Clearly you feel otherwise, and that's fine, and I'm sure you enjoy your Sunbird too. Bully for you.
When in the fu*king fu*k did a persons car have anything to do with anything in this post?
And having a small door to access your ram is really convenient because every week, your upgrading your ram, right?
That small door could be a cartridge slot to make it even easier, but it doesn't matter since thats one component thats easy to replace, while the other two commonly replaced components (really one, but whatever) sits behind a clusterfu*k of tabs, screws, and pry locations.
Commonly refers to a component that will ever be replaced, not that its replaced often.
You can have all the bias you want. But don't take down another product by telling lies or half truths.
What's wrong with Pontiac? My black Solstice is one of the hottest cars on the road right now! You Apple fanboys are too much... you talk a load of smack about a shitty device manufacturer (not everybody likes satin white finishes and brain dead marketing campaigns) that forces its users to de-evolve and just "do whatever Apple tells you to". Then you branch out and start attacking people's other personal choices. So lame... and totally pathetic. Get a life.
I dont normally post things, Im bored of ridiculous arguments; it seems no matter which forum I go to there is a bunch of people arguing over which operating system they would like in bed, cough, I mean like to use.
However, something that grabs me is this whole "who started it thing". - Who the hell cares.
I am a mac user, I love them, I dont think I will ever buy a PC no matter what specs, because the apple OS just seems to work alot better for me - That said, this Dell release looks fantastic. Side the awkward speakers this looks like an interesting venture for dell, as my school is Dell based, and conventionally the computers are ugly.
On the support side, Dell provides excellent support. However I would prefer to have a machine that survives long enough to not need support (I realize thats pretty much impossible but oh well, we can try).
I wonder if I can call the world to shut up about fanboy stuff. Its sad. This comment board, and A BILLION OTHERS LIKE IT, are NOT directed towards pitiful arguments about company's, rather the product in question - which in this case is rather sexy.
Didn't your mummy ever tell you "if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say it"?
The first few Apple fanboys cared enough to post comments thinking that this isn't worth posting because apparently Apple did it first. Which they were proven wrong so many times.
Is the monitor lit with LEDs? I bought one like this from Gateway 5+ years ago and while it was nice for the kids, I will never do so again. The backlight for the monitor burned out after 13 months and gateway wanted $500+ to repair it. Was really annoyed because I noticed and notified them of an issue with the backlight shortly after buying the thing. I noticed that when the PC hibernated, it didn't turn off the light, could see it still glowing.
@TMM
'designer', apple fan boy, seems the same to me!
(And talking about design - how in the world would you want to justify the black boarder around the imac as well as the standard brushed aluminum on the ipod classic, the name ipod classic as well, the new design of the nano and the utterly ugly box of leopard. I thought you were allowed to copy anything but the 80's.. Space?! Purple?!!!)
your not supposed to copy the 80s?!?!?
@ugg
Thought so... they are utterly tasteless, don't you think? Black jeans with neon pink and yellow patches?! Unheard of before and kindly forgotten ever since!
Where's the Bluetooth love, Dell?
Holy shit have fun upgrading that. (Although did you really expect it to be any different?)
Very nice, Dell. Now all you have to do is sell it for a reasonable price.
I thought I'd just mention that Macbooks don't have a manual eject button either, AFAICT (looking at my roommate's macbook in detail). So I am sure you would have to send it to Apple to get a disk out.
anyone know how much is it?
to TMM;
you're a typical apple fanboy. Please don't deny it. I'm an industrial designer myself and i can't stand how designers now design for just aesthetics and not look and function. LOUDSPEAKERS work soooOOo much better than hidden speakers. Apple hides speakers and so does Samsung. Hidden speakers might look nicer, but sound Sheitty. Vibration is a big issue with this design philosophy. Those with hidden speakers always end up getting a set of speakers further increasing clutter. Imac's look like huge white bricks anyway. This is far more slender and i believe would appeal to a bigger market.
To each their own, but you're just another designer following the minimalist "apple" trend designing without ever thinking people would want to use it. Why don't you design an Imac without a keyboard? Then it won't look like a computer at all! Just a thick white brick with a huge bezel. You can talk to it and it'll be twice as hard to use. =P
Even if Apple wasn't first they've certainly pushed and refined this formula for years now. Apple has history of products in this category while other manufacturers seem to be just starting to experiment with (or rediscover, if you wish) this concept.
Has anyone noticed that the reflection of "BEAUTIFUL." in the ad looks neat but makes no logical sense? Makes me wonder if that sort of logic and physics is also in the A2010 and Dell as a whole...