iPhone international: Apple schedules iPhone workshop in Canada; O2 scraps limited-unlimited data
By Ryan Block 
posted Nov 5th 2007 1:17AM
posted Nov 5th 2007 1:17AM
Oh, and that not-so-"unlimited" data the iPhone was getting in the UK on O2? Turns out that apparently the carrier's reversed its decision to cap iPhone users' data at a mere 100-200MB, apparently stating, "There is no limit on the monthly network usage. However if we feel that your activities are so excessive that other customers are detrimentally affected, we may give you a written warning (by email or otherwise)." We're not really sure what the fuss is about, O2's rolling out a legacy EDGE network specifically for the use of iPhone users, why fuss over a device that can't be (easily) tethered to a laptop and has slow-ass EDGE data and quick WiFi?
Read - Apple schedules iPhone workshop in Canada [Thanks, Ethan]
Read - O2 scraps limited-unlimited data [Via TUAW]
What is there to complain about? Just take a look at Canadian data plan and you should feel lucky not paying $1000+ on your phone bill.
By the way, EDGE is so slow. Once you've tried HSDPA then there's no going back.
UK Pays
iPhone = $524.21 Canadian dollars
18 month contract(lowest price contract, 200 free mintues + 200 free text) = $1227.71 Canadian dollars
"We're not really sure what the fuss is about"
You realise that 200MB is 6.6MB a day. So UK users can view one short Youtube video a day and... well nothing.
O2: Stop, or I'll say stop again....
The iPhone will be a hit seller in Canada but all for the wrong reasons. Everyone here will be buying this iPhone for the 'bling factor' but no one here is going to use it for its features such as Safari on the go and email...data plans are really anal here. Especially with the only GSM provider holding both GSM companies so they can control the price.
Cool, I might make it there to check it out...
Eaton Centre, Toronto. Dundas subway station :)
YAY i have been awating this day for way to long and i hope that this si actuially real but if the plan is rediculiously expensive as perdicted than i would have rather waited a little longer.
Apple's website also lists an iPhone workshop at Toronto's Eaton Centre on Saturday November 3rd. So I imagine that these schedules were planned months ago. And, more interestingly perhaps, the "inaccurate" Apple Store workshop schedule shows how much Apple EXPECTED to be selling the iPhone in Canada by now. What's the problem here? Is the delay likely due to the iPhone trademark dispute or to Rogers Wireless?
The wait continues ......
Though tangentially related, I must make a confession. I have teethered a laptop over an EDGE connection SEVERAL times.
*hangs head in shame*
*shot for melodrama*
But it's not terrible for checking email, some crucial AIM conversations--yes, they can be crucial, and hitting up a favorite (en)gadget site. Hell, my connection went out last week while doing a project, so I had to teether a connection on my PC via EDGE, I only had to gather some fairly low res pictures and text, though. Of course it wasn't HSPDA or broadband quick, it was passable.
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But, yeah, I am sure those 3G lovin' and accustomed Europeans are going to have fun with EDGE. Maybe now they'll know what it feels like for us to import those European phones with 3G Euro coverage but only US EDGE. See, even those who hate Apple can see they are good for something, unless you're European AND hate Apple. Then, well, I guess there's more fuel for that fire, although it begs to question (if that's how the idiom goes) why an Apple hater would purchase an iPhone.
you could be verry right. there are allot of things that apple has failed to change and or update in the past weather it be on there sight or what ever.
just watch as this mistake is magically fixed in the next couple of days.
Oh apple, you tease.
The canuckistan website lets me pre order an iphone.
"This cart qualifies for Free Shipping
Cart Items Quantity Item Price Item Total
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Part Number: PA623C/A
Engraving: Edit
Not for use
in Soviet Canuckistan.
Gift message: Add| Create unique messages
Gift package: Add
Remove $329.00 $329.00
Estimated Ship: 1-3 business days
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oh hang on.. that's just an ipod touch.
damn.
Guys, guys, guys..
The iPhone is NOT coming to Canada anytime soon.
Not with the way Rogers works.
I've worked for both companies, and knowing the way things operate, they aren't anywhere close to coming to a suitable deal.
It doesn't seem to be stopping anybody though. Both my girlfriend and I have one, 2 friends, and I see at least one iPhone a day here in Toronto.
Hay JJ what do you pay monthly for your iphone, and can i send all my blackberry forwarded emails to my iphone?
i wonder what will go on in germany upon iphone's release... i'll definitely buy one as soon as apple starts selling it without these silly operator contracts... hopefully/maybe in iphone 2gen... oh apple come on!
Anyone notice that there was also a workshop scheduled for November 3rd? Anyone in the T.O. area attend that one?
As for all of the talk about Rogers and their data plans, it's all too true that their current structure just would not allow the iPhone to be used in the way it is intended. That being said, Rogers has recently rolled out newer price structures for calling including nationwide unlimited calling that are starting to mirror some of the unlimited plans south of the border. If they are willing to make similar changes to support the iPhone, it could work ...
I'm sure the delay has been at least in part due to the trademark dispute. I have a feeling though, that Apple will not actually delay its plans beyond the time when Rogers has signed a deal. They can always do a last-minute deal like they did after the US launch in January.
It's not just November 10th... it's every Saturday in November at the Eaton Centre store. Maybe it's to help all the people who have bought iPhones over the border and are using them unlocked. As other posters have said, there are quite a few of them up here, despite ridiculous data rate pricing from Rogers. But there are some people who have old Fido "unlimited" data plans who may be using these unlocked phones on their old plans.
Me for example. And I think it would be great to see Fido get the iPhone, more of a youth oriented company than Rogers which can be seen as a more business oriented company. Plus, then my VM indicator would work.
It's been pulled.
And ironically, both Telus and Bell Mobility, who are the other two carriers and both CDMA, are now offering flat rate unlimited data plans on their EVDO network. Not exactly great rates - Telus wants $100/mo and Bell Mobility wants $75/mo, but it's still better than nothing.
So Rogers will have to come up with something to match sooner than later... which plays to the iPhone's introduction in Canada.
But don't expect a $20/mo plan anytime soon.
Oh, and Fido side of Rogers/Fido is the 'low rent' side of Rogers aimed at non-contract users and younger and first time cell phone users. I don't think it's like Fido will be carrying the iPhone...
I just found on the Eaton Centre store, when you view month for November it shows every saturday with an iPhone seminar!!!! Could it be?????? Or maybe this was just setup a long time ago and they had hoped that it would have launched all ready???
I was in the Laval (Quebec) Apple store this morning and tried to show him the workshop listing but it had already been pulled. However, he was quite evasive when I queried him about the iPhone coming to Canada.
Personally, I don't care since I've been using my 8GB since early September but my wife and a bunch of friends all want one.
Well, the best plan for an unlocked iPhone is going to be a Blackberry plan on Rogers.
My buddy has the Blackberry plan, and his connection who works at the Rogers video store credits him every month for the data useage. Yea, he's pretty much stealing left, right and cenTRE (!) But that;s what you drove him to Ted!! That's what you drove him to!
Honestly, I think that anybody wanting an iPhone like I said, needs to go to Buffalo like everyone else and pick it up. And don't buy from the Douchebags on craigslist charging a $150 tariff on a phone that cost them at most, $30 to get.
It'll be a long Canadian winter before the iPhone shows it's face in this country.
(Also, anybody ever try to get a legacy hiptop plan from Fido?)
"Apple store at the Eaton Centre in Ontario, Canada."
Not to get too niggly but that's such an awkward way of saying the Eaton Centre Apple Store in Toronto? People know where Toronto is! They'd better.
I guess they don't want to confuse anyone with Toronto, Kansas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto,_Kansas) or Toronto, South Dakota (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto,_South_Dakota)
Yes! I hear their Apple stores are HUGE!
Montreal has an Apple store in ironically, the Eaton Centre too. And it isn't huge. I showed them an Iphone and they couldnt even help me get on their network. If it's coming, they either know nothing about it or they are pretty good at acting dumb.
I don't see any iPhone thing on the Apple website... Am I missing something?...?
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