One day people will understand the difference between being a monopoly and being a strong market leader... Wishful thinking, in the meantime we get to see all these frivolous lawsuits.
Its not frivolous, Apple has created a marketplace which only works with its own device. Good for them this market is pretty successful, but they should let other people in too.
The right question should more be : Did you backed up Microsoft the same way you're backing up Apple when the European Union forced Microsoft to remove Internet Explorer and Windows Media Player from Windows because they created a monopoly for these kinds of application?
Now the same is happening with Apple, they created something so big they can't keep it for themselves, they will have to share.
No I'm usually here to bask in the heightened sense of self righteousness and reverse fanboyism of my Engadget peers.
If it was Microsoft I'd be saying the same thing, in fact MS did exactly the same with Exchange and Outlook just as an example. What should be common sense by now is that if you want to break dominance in the market you don't do it through lawsuits, you compete. This is what MS is doing with the Zune, what Sansa is doing and so many others are starting to do.
Just because you are the dominant market force does not automatically make you a monopoly, last time I checked there were alternatives to the iPod and iTunes, so it hardly looks like a monopoly to me.
Thats not true... Exchange is easily accessible using other technologies and MS has APIs and such for people to write software to interface with Exchange. You simply CANNOT do anything with the iPod or iTunes... PERIOD.
I don't think zoesch said anything about microsoft. . . the article was about apple, so naturally the comment is too. Are we to a point where mentioning something good about apple must also involve saying something good about microsoft without spurring a plethora of anti-fanboy comments? People like Chris and Jonnyg0 make the engadget comment section suck.
In economic theory, one of the basic definitions of a monopoly is their ability to create barriers to entry to prevent new entrants into the market. Selling tracks that will only work on your mp3 player sounds like a barrier to entry to me.
I see nothing monopolistic here at all. there are plenty of other software to use with ipods (i have been using anapod for years), and itunes allows you to burn to cd and also sells drm free tracks.
its just someone wanting a piece of apple's pie. :)
Andrew Horn : I'm sorry to see you define a "what happens to one must happen to the other" comment as fanboyism...
You're right, zoesch didn't said anything about microsoft, but when you call a lawsuit like that one frivolous, you need to compare it to (somewhat) similar cases, and this one just happened to be about Microsoft.
oh and also thanks for commenting oh how I'm part of the reasons comments sucks here, its really a nice way to spurs an intelligent unbiased discussion, which is what you look for right?...
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One day people will understand the difference between being a monopoly and being a strong market leader... Wishful thinking, in the meantime we get to see all these frivolous lawsuits.
If this was Microsoft you would still make the same comment?
I doubt it.
Its not frivolous, Apple has created a marketplace which only works with its own device. Good for them this market is pretty successful, but they should let other people in too.
The right question should more be : Did you backed up Microsoft the same way you're backing up Apple when the European Union forced Microsoft to remove Internet Explorer and Windows Media Player from Windows because they created a monopoly for these kinds of application?
Now the same is happening with Apple, they created something so big they can't keep it for themselves, they will have to share.
so... are you here for the cult meeting? :)
No I'm usually here to bask in the heightened sense of self righteousness and reverse fanboyism of my Engadget peers.
If it was Microsoft I'd be saying the same thing, in fact MS did exactly the same with Exchange and Outlook just as an example. What should be common sense by now is that if you want to break dominance in the market you don't do it through lawsuits, you compete. This is what MS is doing with the Zune, what Sansa is doing and so many others are starting to do.
Just because you are the dominant market force does not automatically make you a monopoly, last time I checked there were alternatives to the iPod and iTunes, so it hardly looks like a monopoly to me.
Thats not true... Exchange is easily accessible using other technologies and MS has APIs and such for people to write software to interface with Exchange. You simply CANNOT do anything with the iPod or iTunes... PERIOD.
I don't think zoesch said anything about microsoft. . . the article was about apple, so naturally the comment is too. Are we to a point where mentioning something good about apple must also involve saying something good about microsoft without spurring a plethora of anti-fanboy comments? People like Chris and Jonnyg0 make the engadget comment section suck.
In economic theory, one of the basic definitions of a monopoly is their ability to create barriers to entry to prevent new entrants into the market.
Selling tracks that will only work on your mp3 player sounds like a barrier to entry to me.
I see nothing monopolistic here at all. there are plenty of other software to use with ipods (i have been using anapod for years), and itunes allows you to burn to cd and also sells drm free tracks.
its just someone wanting a piece of apple's pie. :)
Andrew Horn : I'm sorry to see you define a "what happens to one must happen to the other" comment as fanboyism...
You're right, zoesch didn't said anything about microsoft, but when you call a lawsuit like that one frivolous, you need to compare it to (somewhat) similar cases, and this one just happened to be about Microsoft.
oh and also thanks for commenting oh how I'm part of the reasons comments sucks here, its really a nice way to spurs an intelligent unbiased discussion, which is what you look for right?...