We've got all ideas that folks fully expecting Samsung's SyncMaster 245T to ship
way back in March have moved on and purchased another monitor by now, but for the loyal few that are still clinging to a sliver of hope that this thing isn't vaporware, we've got outstanding news. Some ten months (to the day, actually) after its unveiling, this 24-incher is
finally ready to rock, and it'll be coming to those still interested with a 1,920 x 1,200 resolution PVA panel, 1,500:1 contrast ratio, six-millisecond response time, Motion Picture Acceleration (MPA) backlight scanning technology, 178-degree viewing angles and a four-port USB 2.0 hub for good measure. As for the port selection, you'll find HDMI, S-Video, component, DVI and VGA connectors, and with any luck, you can score one now for $799.99.
[Via
Electronista]
posted Nov 7th 2007 1:12PM
I'm in the market for a 24 inch monitor - this one seems pricey. Pretty much every 24" monitor seems to carry the 1920x1200 resolution. Samsung monitors are usually good though - should I grab this one or go w/ a cheaper Dell / other?
-Kevin
Dell UltraSharp has been great. Has the virtually the same specs, plus PIP and card-reader for a lower price. Used one at work for over a year now and it's been terrific.
Depends... if this is a S-IPS LCD then yes. Definitely. From the specs it looks like it may be, but xbitlabs says it's PVA. I've seen a few nice PVAs, but something like that I'd have to see in person to decide on.
http://xbitlabs.com/articles/other/display/24inch_18.html
I HIGHLY doubt you'll ever see an S-IPS monitor from Samsung since LG is the only company making those panels.
This is an S-PVA panel based monitor with extreme input lag (up to 50 ms) judging from the reviews so far. It also has the same panel as in the DELL 2407-HC so apparently it suffers from the same "inverse ghosting" overdrive artifacts.
The only 24" S-IPS monitor so far (to my knowledge) is the NEC 2490, which isn't available here in Europe by the way.
I would recommend hardforum for further info on monitors for those who are interrested.
http://hardforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=78
I agree with you - it seems pricey. You might want to go for another model or wait 4 months till after the holidays. You can get another Samsung 22 inches for less than 400 usd so here you pat extra 400 usd for another 2 inches...
http://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071021221535AAwnj6B
I've got a Dell 24" and I love it. I thought it was a bit high at around $620 when I got it. The Samsung is WAY overpriced. Go for a Dell.
I'd avoid the dell. I read about (on the interwebs and a dell forum thread that was massive) a problem with the Dell equivalent about ghosting. It's the main reason I passed on the Dell equivalent of this monitor. If you can get this for $300 less it'd be a worthwhile deal (even then, still some stiff competition).
24" for $400 shipped:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824112011
Samsung also sells a cheapie monitor in the high $400s. This monitor is just plain better.
Check out the customer reviews of the predecessor 244T vs. Samsung's own cheapie 245BW at Amazon or NewEgg. The higher end gets much better reviews.
How is that better than this?
http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/navigate.do?dest=5&item=373777
The BW has a TN panel, which has inferior color and viewing angles. Apparently the TN, with it's S-PVA panel, has some input lag. That's more an issue with the logic than the panel, though. Neither of these are really the best bang for the buck. For that look at the HP LP2465, with the NEC 2470WNX and maybe the Planar PX2411W as runner ups. That HP is really an incredible screen for the money.
6ms is a bit slow for my taste, I also wish sammy would modify the stand to be height adjustable.
What's the difference between this and the existing 245BW?
The grade of the panel. The BW uses cheap TN panel, and hence it is lower priced than any other brand name monitor. Cheaper panels have worse colour performance (e.g. 6 bit instead of 8), worse motion artifacting, worse viewing angles, worse contrast ratios - you get the point. That is why people who wanted to buy a good 24" were waiting for the T series... but Samsung waited way too long to release it.
This is weird... My University has had these for about 2 months. They are VERY nice to work with!! We have a computer lab with about 30 of these in.
on the 245BW: 160 degree viewing angle, probably not PVA, less inputs, no USB hub
On the plus side, it has a 5ms response time, so if that 1ms matters to you, and you don't need all those features that the 245T has, then by all means, save yourself $350* and buy the 245BW from newEgg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001234&Tpk=245BW
(Regular price is $499, save $30 b/c it's on sale, less a $20 MIR for $449.99+ shipping)
I'm sorry but a 24" Monitor at this price is just dumb.... why can't you just buy a small hdtv? It'll have DVI, Component, S video, most likely SEVERAL HDMI's, and cable. Wouldn't that be a more logical choice?
and a resolution of 1024x768 not 1900x1200
well you win some you loose some
Why don't you read the comments before posting? A small HDTV would have a smaller resolution and a poorer quality panel.
Since when have PVA panels been 178 degree viewing angle? I've always remembered them being 176. Now it's harder to tell the difference between a PVA and IPS panel when looking at the specs.
Me thinks this puppy IS overpriced. I'd go with the Dell, however, I am in the same situation. I was hoping to buy a new 24" soon but now will wait for the holidays. I was going to get that new NEC monitor but it's still so new and hardly available that I'll wait. Then I read about Dell and saw all the positive reviews so I was going to get that one but the price is still high.
On top of all of this -- I saw a discount special for a Toshiba 26" HDTV and that price is nearly the same as the Dell so now I'm wondering what the "perks" would be for having a small HDTV as a monitor compared to having a monitor as a monitor. Does that make sense????
I would have to say, for the price, I can get a Sceptre 24" LCD Monitor for slightly better specs but at about $100 cheaper than the Samsung and not to mention had been out for at least a month already.
The Sceptre has a 2ms response compared to the 5 ms. The contrast ratio is at 4000:1 compared to 1000:1 (DC 3000:1) of the Samsung. The Samsung does have a better warranty for 3 years compared to the Sceptre which only has a 1 year warranty.
You're comparing apples to oranges. A 24" has a much higher resolution than a 22". A 24" is also capable of 1080P. Also, a TN panel is always inferior to any other panel technology except that it has a fast response time and is cheap (most other panel types have plenty fast response times nowadays). The reason most people like high resolution is because they are about 2' away from the monitor. Try sitting two feet away from most flat panel TVs and you probably wouldn't be that happy.
Having said that, this monitor still seems pricey unless the street price drops quickly.
I'd rather have the 4 19" monitors I could get for the same price.
i have a Benq FP241W which uses a P-MVA panel from AU optronics and i absolutely love it. granted, it was almost $700, but i dont regret it in the slightest. fantastic monitor.
" I'd avoid the dell. I read about (on the interwebs and a dell forum thread that was massive) a problem with the Dell equivalent about ghosting. It's the main reason I passed on the Dell equivalent of this monitor."
FUD
Nope, he's right. The ghosting problem with the 2407WFP-HC is well-documented. This is what one of their techies posted in a forum I frequent:
"We have several teams investigating the issue but have yet to discover the root cause. Until we know the root cause, we cannot have a corrective action plan. The discussion about poor control of the RTC (Response Time Compensation) technology and aggressive overdrive on TFT Central is currently under investigation. This will take some time."
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=31&threadid=2094805
Wow, I've been waiting for this for half a year. But guess what? I bought a LG 246WP-BN for $500 shipped HDMI/Component/SVideo/1920*1200, and no it's not a TN panel.
Where did you get it from? I'm planning to buy the same. It is the same P-MVA panel as BenQ, how is the performance of the LG?
It's now at newegg at $700.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001246
Seriously though, wtf do the higher end samsung lcds not had height adjustment but the lower ends do?
BenQ FP241W/WZ/VW all use AUO's new A-MVA panels. Samsung's 275T (27") uses PVA panel according to some source. A-MVA panel is better than PVA from my own experience since I own both FP241WZ and 275T. The image quality, viewing angle, sharpness, and color fidelity of FP241WZ just blows 275T out of water. Even though Samsung 275T claimed to be 97% colour gamet, I just found its colours are all mixed up and overall it is not as good as FP241WZ.
According to a Hardforum poster, you can get the W with newest firmware (Sept 2007) from NCIX for CDN $549 weekly sale + zero dead pixel guarantee. If you like the look of VW without pivot and height adjustment, you can get it for CDN $649.