It's here and looking just as busted as it did when
we broke the Amazon
Kindle eBook reader for you last year. $399 (and free 2 day shipping) with access to 88,000 books including 100 of the 112 New York Times best sellers. No WiFi here, Amazon's Whispernet service is FREE and based on Sprint's EVDO: "Amazon pays for Kindle's wireless connectivity so you will never see a monthly wireless bill for shopping the Kindle Store." Whispernet allows Kindle owners to wirelessly shop the Kindle Store, download and receive content -- and it works out the box, no setup required. All new release books cost $9.99 as do books found on the NYT best sellers list. Newspaper subscriptions cost $5.99 to $14.99 per month and Kindle Magazines cost between $1.25 and $3.49 per month -- each is available for a free 2 week trial. Oddly, blogs will cost you $0.99 per month to subscribe. All purchased content is stored as a backup on Amazon's site. Running down the specs again: internal storage for 200 titles (more via SD expansion), battery that lasts for days (2 hour recharge), 10.3 ounces, built-in dictionary and Wikipedia, and plenty more. While the reader itself could be mistaken for a Handspring device from the 90s, the service itself certainly makes for a compelling proposition.
Read -- Kindle Store
Read -- Kindle device
Read -- Video demonstration
Read -- Video drop test (slow motion, thanks Joe)
posted November 19th 2007 9:21AM
Now. If I could get the service on my iPhone I would pay all that money for them to keep that device. Why would I walk around with both devices when the iPhone is perfectly capable of displaying books.
Reading pages and pages of a book is a different exercise . You will not be able to acheive the same feeling an e-book reader provides you compared to a high resolution ultra bright LCD display ....after a few minutes of flipping ( which is not available on an IPHONE ) your eyes would get tired ....reading books is not the same as watching movies
And thats a lot of flipping, you can fit a lot of words on the larger screen, so you would be doing more fliping on the iphone than you would on the kindle
I beg to differ. A native iPhone app (and there will be one sometime shortly after February) will handle flipping pages better than any device. I often read long articles- say 15 minutes of reading on my iPhone. My issue is that I would like the motion sensor turned off. I find that I like the hold it at an angle that makes the iPhone turn landscape. Something about ADD and not holding still for very long.
I'm sure it could/would obliterate battery life but you have to pick your battles.
Super-Slow-Motion drop tests: http://www.amazon.com/gp/mpd/permalink/m25LKTYHEBQP7L:m2R1NBG5A7VZSU
Get a Palm TX-Ereader and Mobipocket let you read unabridged books, with COLOR images. The TX screen is very sharp. I've read entire books without difficulty. With SD cards you can store as many books as you want. The TX has built in WiFi, but you can't download directly-yet.
where is password?
I don't really like the Kindle e-book. The reasons for that is because the Kindle e-book doesn't have a OLED/LED COLOR SCREEN and can't they think of a acrylic type casing (Only on the front as a cover so you won't be able to scratch your screen). Plus I doubt it's water proof (Coffee spills are a mess). I can add so much... =D
The display is the entire POINT. Its electronic ink paper display for readability Very high readability, very low battery usage
For a device intended almost solely for reading, an ePaper display is almost undoubtedly better than an OLED display. It's easier on the eyes, can be read in direct sunlight, and has vastly better battery life. And while a color display would be nice, it's almost completely unnecessary for the purpose of this device. As for being waterproof, are you kidding me? BOOKS aren't even waterproof!
when's the last book that you read that had red words? or do you read picture books? :P
I agree that color would be great, however it's definitely better to have e-Ink for eBook reading. It doesn't give you a headache after staring at it for a while. Also, the only color e-Inks on the market aren't on the market yet (that I know of).
Incidentally, acrylic is weak and cracks easy, you are thinking of polycarbonate AKA under the brandname Lexan.
Acrylic (PMMA) can crack or even shatter under some circumstances, but with the right impact modifiers and hardcoat, it is as clear as glass, as scratch resistant as glass, and much sturdier against impacts. I would be suprised if they weren't using acrylic for this, unless they have some non-standard composite plastic, which is becoming more common in the industry.
Polycarbonate, on the other hand, it almost the exact opposite of acrylic. PC is virtually shatterproof/crackproof. (Try dropping a Lexan water bottle onto concrete from a few stories up. It still shouldn't break.) The problem with PC is that it is super hard to make it scratch resistant. The same properties that make it shatterproof leave it very susceptible to scratching, even with a hardcoat.
In some circumstances, PET would be a good middle point between the two, because it is much more crack/shatter resistant than the acrylic, while being more scratch resistant than PC. However, PET gets hazy when you make it very thick, so it is hard to make a PET lens or screen that is thick enough to pass a puncture test that is still clear enough to look good. That is especially important when placed over a display specially designed for reading, because the last thing you want distracting you is a hazy lens.
I spent three years in the plastic lens business, mostly making cell phone lenses. Any other questions about screens?
Thats actually pretty awesome. they should make a cheeper nonwireless version, but this is nice too
They should make one that natively reads PDF...
It takes epaper, i think. I like Epaper because it is extremly energy efficent, and can be used without batteries, untill you want to change the page.
Come to think of it, since it's reflective, so it need light, why didn't they add a solar cell to boost the battery a bit.
Guess too little room
Cover the back plate of the reader with solar cells. Then you recharge it continuously in bright light while you are reading, or just place it cells-up on a table for a couple of hours and come back to a fully recharged book.
Each e-mail to the Kindle will apparently cost 10 cents.
FAIL.
You want email, get a Blackberry. That's not the purpose of this device.
LOL, and LOL at the reply not getting the joke.
what's the joke mate? i dont get it either.
Does look a little off-color ...but the ease of use ( wirelessly downloading e-books) + book-like reading view .....might work . I would not mind trying it if it were a little cheaper.
Was curious to know , if we can upload our own e-books instead of purchasing from their online store ?
It's not off color, it's just not bright white like you've grown to expect from Word or whatever else. It makes it easier to read without getting eye fatigue.
Sorry Bob, disagree. The brain can quite easily accommodate text played as "word video"- its just that we have been taught since childhood to read left to right and top to bottom.
Have a look at BookMuncher which is built around RSV (Rapid serial visualisation)which has been around for over 150 yrs. Currently exists as Beta for Nokia & Sony Erricson phones with Iphone in development. Anyway who wants to carry around more than 1 device?
In the product review of the kindle e-book reader ........they were mentioning blogs ...they failed to mention engadget
More than 250 top blogs from the worlds of business, technology, sports, entertainment, and politics, including BoingBoing, Slashdot, TechCrunch, ESPN's Bill Simmons, The Onion, Michelle Malkin, and The Huffington Post.
http://amazon.com/gp/product/B000FI73MA/ref=amb_link_5873612_3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=gateway-center-column&pf_rd_r=0B919GH7BJ8J5WZ46YJH&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=329252801&pf_rd_i=507846
Browse the available Kindle books/media here:
http://amazon.com/ref=kinw_ddp/b?node=154606011
hope engadget unboxes one for us and reviews
As a device, I think the Kindle is a huge step forward for eReaders. The wireless functions alone put it head and shoulders above anything else that has come before. However, watching the videos that Amazon has up, I can't help but realize that this is undoubtedly first generation technology. This type of device still has a lot of room for improvement. That coupled with the $400 price tag is what will keep me from getting a Kindle.
Wow that thing is ugly. Why do you need all those damn buttons? Plus I would much rather wait for a next-gen e-ink solution.
I'm with you on that. Why is it all angular? I can't imagine it's comfortable to hold being that it's thinner on one side than the other, and the next and previous buttons are at odd angles. Also, those little click wheels suck. I always end up moving the darn selection one or two spaces when I try and use the click function. I like the Sony design much better. But neither is cheap enough to warrant a purchase for me.
Can you use this device on a plane? I can't find any mention on Amazon about an "airplane mode' but with wireless built in it would be a must.
There is a radio On/Off switch.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/live-from-the-amazon-kindle-launch-event/
10:05 segment.
If I could get my college textbooks on the Kindle, I would be all over this in a minute.
I like that idea. However, given the current cost of college textbooks, you would exceed the cost of the Kindle after only 3-4 textbook purchases. And, to add insult to injury, you wouldn't be able to resell your useless textbook back to the book store after your class on 19th century basketweaving concluded.
But, in an ideal world where textbooks didn't exceed the cost of rent...
college textbook resell value ain't worth the value the ctrl+f feature would bring.
Well, since all of my important text books are medical in nature, I would be keeping them beyond school. The important thing to me is the reduction in weight. I'm very tired of carrying around 40+ pounds of books. A better idea is the Kindle, some note paper and a pen.
This would be great for students, but so would simply selling access to textbooks online for students, so all they need to carry around is a laptop. That hasn't happened yet, and I don't see it happening on the Kindle either. And really, I don't see the publishers wanting it to happen. They're all very happy with their ridiculous textbook prices, huge margins, and students that can only pay for the overpriced books by taking out huge loans they'll be paying for 20 years. Maybe someday they'll eventually allow online access, but I don't see them jumping on the Kindle bandwagon any time soon.
If they made the device itself free, and increased the price of the books slightly to offset it, this thing could potentially be as revolutionary as Bezos wants it to be. But, with an entry price that high... it's dead before it even hits the shelves.
I just can't get over the price of these things. The Sony is $299 and this is $399? Can those epaper displays really cost that much to manufacture? At these prices, ebook readers will never gain mass market adoption. I would LOVE one, but I definitely don't have an extra four hundred dollars to throw at something.
And the books cost ten bucks? Paperbacks don't even cost that much. They said ten dollars like it's a good deal.
Maybe you're young enough that you haven't seen new technologies hit the market before. It's to be expected that products with new tech will be a bit costly for the first couple of generations. The prices will drop as the tech matures and the production levels increase.
Where are you finding all of these cheap paperbacks? I just pulled 10 different books from my shelf, and the lowest paperback price was 11.99 for Chronicle Of A Death Foretold.
Yes, I know that new gadgets are expensive. But this seems extreme. And they're talking about it being revolutionary, and at that price, it definitely isn't.
And I just bought a paperback at Borders yesterday for $6.99. Sure, that's only three bucks difference, but still...
What are called Mass Market paperbacks are usually in the $5-8 range now, but the larger format (what are called "trade paperbacks") are in the $11-18 range these days. I think that's the form factor and price point that the Kindle is targeting.
I like the attempts at a book-like shape, but it doesn't quite work for me, especially not at $400.
So how long until someone figures out how to use it as a free EV-DO modem?
Umm... It already is a free EVDO modem. Just for the Whispernet.
I would guess that they have the IMEI number of all the modems, not to mention the MAC and probably the Serial number encoded in all of the URL's that are passed with each request.
Somehow, I doubt that it's that secure.
Not that I would encourage taking advantage of Amazon's generosity or anything.
I could see myself snagging one of these if the price were $200 instead of $400, I understand why it's $400, but its just a little high for me.
not that I am a reader, but that price and the ugg factor make this one a no buy.
Wonder if they'll work on a lease model where all content is free if you pay a monthly fee.