NVIDIA launching GeForce 9 series next February?
By Darren Murph 
posted November 30th 2007 3:26PM
posted November 30th 2007 3:26PM
Details are unsurprisingly light on this one, but DigiTimes has it that NVIDIA is gearing up to launch its next-generation GPU just after the Lunar New Year in February 2008. Reportedly, "sources at graphics card makers" have revealed that the GeForce 9 series will include the D9E -- a "high-end product that adopts 65-nanometer manufacturing," supports DirectX 10.1 and Shader Model 4.1 -- and the mid-range D9P, which will supposedly adopt 55-nanometer processing. Apparently, the former will be the first product in the new family, while the latter won't see light until June, but of course, we'd take every ounce of this with a healthy serving of salt for the time being.
I understand what you're saying, but I just don't care about the midrange market, never have. I don't think that it's too much to ask that ATI come out with a 8800 killer in more than a years time. If not an 8800 killer then at least a card that is on par with it. Buying midrange at this point is a waste in my opinion. High end cards like gtx and ultra are having a rough time with new games at high res and candy turned on. Midrange absolutely sucks at it from both companies. If you buy a midrange card now, you are basically guaranteeing that you won't be able to play next years fall game lineup or be able to upgrade to a decent screen res. Decent being 1920x1080/1200 and up. If you haven't already jumped on the high end band wagon earlier this year then it would be better to just wait for the new high end to come out. I haven't always felt this way about midrange, because at one point in time midrange actually had some sustainability. But today's midrange just can't perform with today's games. ATI shouldn't be congratulated for releasing obsolescences to the masses.
i dont really see how the HD3870 is a midrange card but whatever. you also have to look at the fact that the card costs $220 and is also the most efficient Crossfire/SLI card on the market. when you set up two of these suckers you get an 80-85% performance increase. there are also dual GPU boards coming out and you can crossfire up to four boards at once (mobo permitting of course) so theoretically you could run eight GPUs at the same time. the dual GPU boards are gonna cost around $400 so that would run you about $1600 but then you can run Crisis 2 at what ever resolution you want buddy!. meanwhile im very interested in getting two HD3870s and putting them on my Crossfire mobo and playing at 1440x900.
it seems like too many people are into PC gaming just so they can say their rig can run at higher FPS at a higher res than yours.
The 3870 isn't midrange for ATI, but it is midrange when compared to the rest of the market. That was my point. A single GTX still beats the the 3870 in crossfire in almost every game. In modern games like Crysis, A single 8800gt is almost equal to a 3870 crossfire setup http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/3870-XXX/cfgood.php. The 3870 does absolutely horribly with any AA enabled and can perform only when in dx9 mode and no eye candy turned on. This isn't my opinion but evident from every single benchmark posted on the net. I think the 8800GT performs miserably as well but it isn't Nvidia's high end either. But at 1440x900 any of these midrange cards is overkill.
Yes, but will it run Crysis?
You mean will it run crysis at 'high' settings at common resolutions at more than 20FPS.
My 8800GTX (one) runs crysis on high at over 20FPS(22-23 avg). It's actually the first shooter I've found very playable at a framerate like that.
I don't understand why you guys are getting such poor framerates in Crysis - I have a Merom XE powered iMac (standard issue, 2GB DDR2 500GB hard drive, HD2600...) and I run it (in XP, with the DX-10 hack) at an average of 26FPS.
Are you running at 1920x1200? Upping the resolution makes a pretty big difference in Crysis. And is every single setting set to "High"? And by DX10 hack, do you mean editing the config filed to allow "Very High" settings under XP (where you overwrite the High settings with the Very High options)?
"next February" would be Feb of 2009, wouldn't it? "this February" would be 2008. At least, that's how I understand it.
Sorry but you make no real sense, the next february I expect to come around is the one in 2008.
The one in 2009 would be the the "next after"
As for the term 'this february', that is usable but doesn't exclude the 'next' term I think.
(or should I say "doesn't exclude the 'next' term I don't think")
Perhaps it's a british vs american english issue?
""next February" would be Feb of 2009, wouldn't it? "this February" would be 2008. At least, that's how I understand it."
That`s what I always thought, but no one else seamed to...
It seems to me that this is just confusion resulting from the fact that NVIDIA has abandoned the naming parity between code-names and retail names. For example, the new GeForce 8800GT is based on the G92 architecture, rather than the G80. The G92 is actually just an incremental upgrade, not a completely new architecture; hence, it's still an 8 series card, not a 9 series. Of course I could be wrong about all of this, so don't hold me to it :)
Nvidia HAS to release a DX10.1 / shadermodel 4.1 card, soonest.
That's something they can delay only so long.
ITS OVER NINE THOUSAND!
People forget that what Intel, AMD/ATI, and NVIDIA giveth, Microsoft taketh away.
why? are there better OS's for gaming? mac? gaming on macs pretty much sucks
How about they actually come out with 64 bit Windows drivers that are good before launching another product that they can't even offer stable drivers for?
Perfect, I can get a penryn cpu and a nvidia 9**** series in Febuary! (now all I have to do is get a crap load of money for christmas)
How about getting their 8800 ultra and other cards to work smooth first. Crysis can't take SLi or settings at high when I have 2 cards with a lot of power to throw at a game and yet it often freezes... unless I set it at rubbish low settings. Still the game is fun even in 1990 style.
Who is to blame Nvidia or EA?
Frankly I'm not thrilled at yet more bleeding edge if the drivers don't really work.
I want one / two / three/ four ...
I'm still waiting for the 8950GX4 (thats right I said GX4!) you know the one that comes with its own direct connection to the power plant turbines, has 4 fans with liquid cooling and a liquid cooled heatsink. (wants to render Transformers in real time)
Wow, so pretty much we wasted our money on the 8800 and it won't be able to take advantage of the directx 10.1
the midrange market does totally suck now i remember when I got my 6600 GT that thing was awesome price/performance i love that card way more than I like my 8800 GTS 640 but i have a feeling the 9 series are going to pwn at all games for quite a while. I dont know if it is just speculation but the 9800 GTX is supposidly almost 2x faster than the current 8800 ultra
Typically Nvidia has done what they are doing now. They come out with a beast i.e 7800 gtx, 7900 GTX, 8800GTX and then flesh out the lower end and then flesh out a low cost not quite as good as the top end card i.e 7800gt, 7900gt, 8800gt. Then a few months after the gt product comes out they come out with the new series GTX. Think about it for marketing purposes. You put out the top of the line card which is most competative and then if is succeeds you sell tons of lower end products as well and then follow up with a moderately priced high end card for staying power with your last series for those who want to spend less money for the top of the line for the last series. Because in reality the best video cards regardless of what series you are in are the top of the line GT and GTX cards (nvidia). Everthing else is just ok i.e 7600 gt, 8500 gt, 8600 gt. Off that topic I heard a rumor about sound integrated on the new card. Would make sense due to HDMI, but would the sound be good?