This legislation is pointless. I don't even like Ron Paul because I think the majority of his followers (my age, anyway) like his ideas on pot more than they like anything else about him. Regardless, does the American public even know what obscenity is? I doubt the average internet browser has any idea about the Miller and SLAPS tests, which are the current standards for the definition of obscene material. What we're going to have are a bunch of self-appointed internet police officers running around and reporting everything they can find that they don't like. There's also the logistical problem of most obscene work being posted overseas.
Furthermore, if this legislation passes, you can kiss goodbye your "2 Girls, 1 Cup" gags and the infamous anime Shitting Dick Nipples (lol).
What ideas on "pot" are you referring to? I've been following Ron Paul's campaign for months now and haven't heard anyone there mention anything about marijuana. You must be thinking about Kinky Friedman. Which makes you an uninformed person not worthy of listening to. Go back to sleep.
That movie zeitgeist is all conspiracy theory. It cites absolutely no evidence in its suggestions. I did further research on it and found only other conspiracy theories that they used to support it. Nothing objective.
I have been reading and listening to Dr. Paul for years. Dr. Paul has stated that when he answers questions, like the pot issue, he is addressing the issue from a jurisdictional poit of view; at the Federal level, and not at the State level.
Dr. Paul position on pot, whether commercial (bird feed, hemp fiber, medicinal) or recreational, is that the Federal government has no Constitutional authority to ban it. The Feds could regulate the INTERSTATE commerce but not INTRASTATE. And regulation is not the same as prohibition. Remember, alcohol prohibition required an amendment.
My dad says marijuana should be legalized, but he's an anesthesiologist. I think weed should remain illegal because if you're dumb enough to get caught, then you're not the type who should be smoking MY weed!
He is one of the 3 candidates who isn't on the counsil on foreign relation CFR which it's founder quoted "we shall have world government wether you like it or not the only question is wether it will be formed by conquest or consent" that was paul warburg, so hell yeah I suppourt Ron Paul. Back to the gold standard!
Anyone here who doesn't know much about Ron Paul yet, I hope you will take the time to at least read about him a little. Ron Paul is the first chance in decades for us to have a president who is truely for the people. He is often the only one in the House to vote a particular way because he is the only national level politician that strictly votes for what is right and good for the American people. He does not care about corporate interests! And that's why the media largely ignores him, he is not, and will not be, under their control!
Unfortunately, the Supreme Court recently ruled that intrastate growth and consumption of a fungible commodity (like Cannabis or Wheat) can be regulated by the Federal government through the Commerce Clause of the Constitution. The basis is that your intrastate "commerce" (or for personal use, non-commerce) effectively disrupts established interstate (or potential interstate) markets for the commodity.
This applies even if there is only an interstate black market for the commodity, as is the case with Cannabis. Doesn't matter that you can grow it and consume it legally in California for medical purposes. Because the Federal government can regulate the potential for interstate commerce in the commodity, it can reach beyond the state boundary and into your living room to prevent you from further disrupting the interstate black market with your intrastate use.
It really has nothing to do with the Controlled Substances Act at this point, or other questionably unconstitutional control by the Federal government. It's a commerce issue, which is (unfortunately) clearly constitutional until a different court overturns the Raich decision.
Furthermore, Cannabis / THC derivatives are already available by prescription. My prediction is that no matter how hard anyone tries to legalize it, it won't happen. There's too much money to be made by the pharma industry and law enforcement entities in keeping it illegal.
See the Raich & Monson cases (v. Ashcroft) and related counterfilings by Gonzalez.
I did just that. I've been reading a lot about Dr. Paul after not knowing much about him and all... and I must say this guys is impressive! Definately has my vote.
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You guys did it now. Don't you know that anything relating to Ron Paul equals a bum rush of his followers spamming your comments?
This legislation is pointless. I don't even like Ron Paul because I think the majority of his followers (my age, anyway) like his ideas on pot more than they like anything else about him. Regardless, does the American public even know what obscenity is? I doubt the average internet browser has any idea about the Miller and SLAPS tests, which are the current standards for the definition of obscene material. What we're going to have are a bunch of self-appointed internet police officers running around and reporting everything they can find that they don't like. There's also the logistical problem of most obscene work being posted overseas.
Furthermore, if this legislation passes, you can kiss goodbye your "2 Girls, 1 Cup" gags and the infamous anime Shitting Dick Nipples (lol).
What ideas on "pot" are you referring to? I've been following Ron Paul's campaign for months now and haven't heard anyone there mention anything about marijuana. You must be thinking about Kinky Friedman. Which makes you an uninformed person not worthy of listening to. Go back to sleep.
Ron Paul is for the decriminalization of all drugs, under the theory that what you put into your body is none of the government's business.
http://stopthedrugwar.com/chronicle_blog/2007/nov/27/ron_paul_on_medical_marijuana
@AmazingRobie
That movie zeitgeist is all conspiracy theory. It cites absolutely no evidence in its suggestions. I did further research on it and found only other conspiracy theories that they used to support it. Nothing objective.
I have been reading and listening to Dr. Paul for years. Dr. Paul has stated that when he answers questions, like the pot issue, he is addressing the issue from a jurisdictional poit of view; at the Federal level, and not at the State level.
Dr. Paul position on pot, whether commercial (bird feed, hemp fiber, medicinal) or recreational, is that the Federal government has no Constitutional authority to ban it. The Feds could regulate the INTERSTATE commerce but not INTRASTATE. And regulation is not the same as prohibition. Remember, alcohol prohibition required an amendment.
My dad says marijuana should be legalized, but he's an anesthesiologist. I think weed should remain illegal because if you're dumb enough to get caught, then you're not the type who should be smoking MY weed!
I think marijuana SHOULD be legalized, so pot heads have nothing to talk about anymore. This shit gets old.
the other link isn't working anymore.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHS_y94H1Dk
Ron Paul favors removal of authority for regulating drugs from the federal level. States would still be able to enforce drug laws as they see fit.
He is one of the 3 candidates who isn't on the counsil on foreign relation CFR which it's founder quoted "we shall have world government wether you like it or not the only question is wether it will be formed by conquest or consent" that was paul warburg, so hell yeah I suppourt Ron Paul. Back to the gold standard!
@ a.guy.named.eric: Nothing objective? It speaks of the official 9/11 comission, you know where it says "the funding for 9/11 was of little significance" That is no conspiracy read the damn book. As for the North American Union http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzjSX2kO07Y&eurl=http://infowars.com/articles/us/ron_paul_cnn_hack_nafta_superhighway_imaginary.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSe8_1U7ryk&feature=related
I don't know how much more proof you need, the mexican president admitted it on CNN. What part of that is conspiracy? Do some real research before just calling it crazy conspiracy. It is happening, they even have engadget articals on RFID and big brother.
Anyone here who doesn't know much about Ron Paul yet, I hope you will take the time to at least read about him a little. Ron Paul is the first chance in decades for us to have a president who is truely for the people. He is often the only one in the House to vote a particular way because he is the only national level politician that strictly votes for what is right and good for the American people. He does not care about corporate interests! And that's why the media largely ignores him, he is not, and will not be, under their control!
@Jaime:
Unfortunately, the Supreme Court recently ruled that intrastate growth and consumption of a fungible commodity (like Cannabis or Wheat) can be regulated by the Federal government through the Commerce Clause of the Constitution. The basis is that your intrastate "commerce" (or for personal use, non-commerce) effectively disrupts established interstate (or potential interstate) markets for the commodity.
This applies even if there is only an interstate black market for the commodity, as is the case with Cannabis. Doesn't matter that you can grow it and consume it legally in California for medical purposes. Because the Federal government can regulate the potential for interstate commerce in the commodity, it can reach beyond the state boundary and into your living room to prevent you from further disrupting the interstate black market with your intrastate use.
It really has nothing to do with the Controlled Substances Act at this point, or other questionably unconstitutional control by the Federal government. It's a commerce issue, which is (unfortunately) clearly constitutional until a different court overturns the Raich decision.
Furthermore, Cannabis / THC derivatives are already available by prescription. My prediction is that no matter how hard anyone tries to legalize it, it won't happen. There's too much money to be made by the pharma industry and law enforcement entities in keeping it illegal.
See the Raich & Monson cases (v. Ashcroft) and related counterfilings by Gonzalez.
@James
I did just that. I've been reading a lot about Dr. Paul after not knowing much about him and all... and I must say this guys is impressive! Definately has my vote.