LOL, thank you for proving my point for me. Digidesign is probably the leader in moving away from using computers as the DAW control surface. Thanks for playing though.
on the contrary, Digidesign is heavily pushing for USB/FireWire peripherals as control surfaces...and the recording is ACTUALLY still handled by the computer itself. This, my friend, is still the industry standard.
The all-in-one workstations that you are seeing pop up are to provide slightly-above-entry-level solutions for people who want to pursue music without spending tens of thousands of dollars on gear...
Console and DAW as One Unlike other solutions, which attempt to piece together independently developed components, ICON was purpose-built by Digidesign to extend and deepen the powerful capabilities of its Pro Tools|HD workstations. With direct control of the mix engine from the worksurface, ICON goes beyond mere integration — the console and DAW truly act as one.
Just an example but visit any major pro audio gear retailer and get enlightened. btw Digidesign's HD-based DAWs DO rely on the host's CPUs, be it Mac OS or Windows, but I believe you're mixed up over the difference between PCI-based processing and standalone systems.
In high end PT systems the "core" system relies on BOTH a CPU host, and a PCI card 'bay' utilizes SATA or SCSI for data throughput and processing on outboard cards (HD1, HD2 rather than the host), that interfaces with Audio I/O; and the control surface proper (i.e. ICON console, Control 8, etc.) is simply a 'fader pack' work surface, that has nothing to do with audio I/O or throughput connected via ethernet or USB) but integrates as the SIMULTANEOUS controller for the system; thus an integrated system.
While it is fact, the near-zero latency in these systems are possible because audio flows down protocols other than firewire/usb and key audio processing is not host reliant, these systems are NOT standalone, as you absolutely require a host to run the app itself.
Chris makes a valid point, in that the 'industry' - professional audio - uses BOTH host-based and core-based systems, just for different applications (remote portable audio on a laptop, where I can record professional sound on the go on bus power; try that with your mx2424).
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@Greg A: Tascam market share > Digidesign ProTools? Proof?
LOL, thank you for proving my point for me. Digidesign is probably the leader in moving away from using computers as the DAW control surface. Thanks for playing though.
on the contrary, Digidesign is heavily pushing for USB/FireWire peripherals as control surfaces...and the recording is ACTUALLY still handled by the computer itself. This, my friend, is still the industry standard.
The all-in-one workstations that you are seeing pop up are to provide slightly-above-entry-level solutions for people who want to pursue music without spending tens of thousands of dollars on gear...
@Greg...get your terminology right first then you'll earn the right to be smug.
http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?langid=100&navid=15&itemid=4781&action=news_details
Console and DAW as One
Unlike other solutions, which attempt to piece together independently developed components, ICON was purpose-built by Digidesign to extend and deepen the powerful capabilities of its Pro Tools|HD workstations. With direct control of the mix engine from the worksurface, ICON goes beyond mere integration — the console and DAW truly act as one.
Just an example but visit any major pro audio gear retailer and get enlightened. btw Digidesign's HD-based DAWs DO rely on the host's CPUs, be it Mac OS or Windows, but I believe you're mixed up over the difference between PCI-based processing and standalone systems.
In high end PT systems the "core" system relies on BOTH a CPU host, and a PCI card 'bay' utilizes SATA or SCSI for data throughput and processing on outboard cards (HD1, HD2 rather than the host), that interfaces with Audio I/O; and the control surface proper (i.e. ICON console, Control 8, etc.) is simply a 'fader pack' work surface, that has nothing to do with audio I/O or throughput connected via ethernet or USB) but integrates as the SIMULTANEOUS controller for the system; thus an integrated system.
While it is fact, the near-zero latency in these systems are possible because audio flows down protocols other than firewire/usb and key audio processing is not host reliant, these systems are NOT standalone, as you absolutely require a host to run the app itself.
Chris makes a valid point, in that the 'industry' - professional audio - uses BOTH host-based and core-based systems, just for different applications (remote portable audio on a laptop, where I can record professional sound on the go on bus power; try that with your mx2424).
http://www.silentway.com/tips/equip/io.php
...because the industry is moving away from host-based DAWs...now that's a LOL
So Greg, when are you selling your reel-to-reel?