Forget HDMI and DisplayPort -- Kleer and USB now vying for that HDTV link
Ugh, is DRM coming to shackle USB too? You betcha. The USB Implementer's Forum is planning to rollout a variant of tethered USB in 2008 to carry compressed high-def video between TVs and mobile devices. It appears unrelated to USB 3.0 and targets both laptops and personal media players -- however you might choose to define that. A spokesman for the organization said that developers "could layer HDMI's HDCP encryption on top." So it's not definite. But with the studios fighting hard to "protect" their content, well, it's a given that some form of DRM will be there. The new USB linkage is meant to complement HDMI which primarily carries uncompressed video between living room A/V equipment... and an increasing number of media-centric laptops. Thing is, DisplayPort, expected to make a big showing at CES in January, already comes with a slathering of HDCP and is the purported VESA standard for moving HDTV from your laptop to a digital television. To confuse matters more, Kleer Corp is also working on a mid-2008 wireless and wired technology for carrying SD video based on its existing wireless audio technology. Proof that the best part about having standards is that there are so many to choose from.


















i bought a sony ps3 when it was still subsidized, selling below manufacturing cost, so sony lost money on that. i play all my hd movie backups on my sony ps3 over hdmi. its kind of ironic that sony facilitated every part of this easy hd movie watching without the extra cash they wanted, and spent cast to get from me. knowing that cd's cost a few cents to make and sell for a huge markup, contain lame music, and had sony rootkits on them, i just couldnt care about sony going into the red for me.
I lose! F* winning
Yay! I feel so much more protected now that my content is able to be DRM'd during the time it travels 50cm over the cord! :D
I wonder how many watts your PC consumes with all that real time encryption and stuff.
Global warming has found it's culprit.
Really though. The longer you rely on copyrighted media for your entertainment, the longer you're going to have to put up with nonsense like this. I try not to. It gets easier every day.
THE RIAA SOUNDEXCHANGE ARE: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
THE MPAA ARE: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, DISNEY, PARAMOUNT, FOX.
with sony, disney, paramount and fox being the main lobbyists for the movie industry and sony, warner for the record industry.
the way to stop the lockdown of software YOU own is to boycott all their products. the way its going in the near future if you even share media with your family you will be a pirate, 1 licence per person = an average of 4x the revenue from each household.
the start of this is sony's psn release of warhawk, none transferable (second hand market crushed) only playable on 1 psn account. you can already see the dollar signs in sony's eyes!
umm.. I think that sounds like the VIrtual Console games on the wii.. which came much earlier than Warhawk did.
Sony saw the dollar signs in Nintendo's pockets and followed suit.
the kindergarten argument of "they do it so it justifies us" just doesn't wash i'm afraid. sony and co are locking down the content WE own not to protect them from piracy but to make more money. this is why they have forced HDMI HDCP DRM on us all and BD+ on blu-ray and now they are trying to lock down european TV.
just remember that whenever its Hollywood mentioned or the MPAA its SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, DISNEY, PARAMOUNT, FOX. that are behind it!
American Studios' Secret Plan to Lock Down European TV Devices
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2007/03/american-studios-secret-plan-lock-down-european-tv-devices
HDCP, Screwing Fans in More Ways Than Ever
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2007/01/hdcp-screwing-fans-more-ways-ever
@Lamar:
That doesn't sound anything like the Virtual Console. Certainly, the games are non-transferable and over-priced considering they're re-releases of titles Nintendo have already made their money on several times over, but they are not restricted to a single username on your machine.
That's assuming Warhawk *is* bound to a single PSN login, I have never played it.
yeah, that's why I bought a disc at a retail store (for the same price!!) that comes with instruction manual, etc and I can play it on ANY ps3.
That is true. Even ones running psubuntu.
Thank you, doom9'ers.
...and so it will always be. Period.
They can lockdown the cabling and wi-fi all they like. You would strip the DRM at the source anyway, therefore making these mind-numbing endeavours redundant and subsequently allowing an end user to do whatever the hell they liked with the broadcast media itself.
Absolutely.
Umm, is it just me or did anyone else see the word COMPRESSED in thre? Does that not upset anyone else? Great, throw some more compression ontop of my already compressed content. NO thank you USB.
I think COMPRESSED is OK if they use LOSSLESS COMPRESSION.
touché KC, touché
I still say USB tied its own slipknot by capping transmission speed at all.
Establish a low minimum connection frequency.
Compare maximum connection frequencies.
Establish full connection on lowest maximum connection frequency.
Test carrier, conditional fallback..
Imagine if TCP/IP didn't work at speeds over 1.5Mbit. I know, higher level protocol.. but you get the idea.
HDMI got hdcp but usb got compressed content and hdcp...no thank you. I can only be screwed one at a time...and HDMI got the job.
I think its great that companies spend millions on "protecting" their digital media. Especially when most of the work-arounds for this type of junk are so low tech. A camera, dark-room, and a decent tv. Wheres the DRM for that?
Why don't they focus more on making cheaper AV equipment and less on encrypting everything. So pointless.
because they make the DRM and need to scare ppl to use it, then they kick up a media frenzy lobby congress and get rich, kinda like the "military industrial complex" but corporate and without having to murder millions of innocent ppl.
We need to boycott this shit just say no to DRM they have forced their will on us for too long it's time to fight back.
DRM does not work it just annoys users and forces them to become pirates as thats the only way they can enjoy content free of annoyances.
HDCP for example is a broken piece of crap that often fails more then it works.
I am just sick and tired of crappywood trying to put drm in my hardware it's total BS.
As far as I'm concerned hollywood can go bankrupt it would be the best thing to happen in a long time.