So, Flight of the Conchords never made it quite clear what's so special about New Zealand anyways, but Dell has heaped mystery upon mystery by leaking its upcoming
3008WFP UltraSharp onto its NZ online store. We knew the 30-incher was coming, with
DisplayPort as its primary claim to fame, but there's plenty else to like. The screen packs a 2560 x 1600 resolution, 370 nits of brightness, 8ms response times, a 3000:1 contrast ratio, and DVI-D (with HDCP), HDMI, S-Video, component and composite plugs just in case. Hopefully we're looking at some sort of silly exchange rate silliness for the price, since NZ$2,699 (about $2,050 US) is roughly double what Dell is charging for its existing 30-inch 3007WFP display. Obviously, no word on when this will hit the States, but all signs point to soon.
Update: Ha! It's now on the
US site for $2,034 with a shiny green "Buy Now" button and 2 day shipping. Anyone want to purchase and tempt our envy? Also available in
Japan starting tomorrow according to
official Dell press release. Now, you do have a DisplayPort video card, right?
[Thanks, JoseQ and dshankar]
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
brad @ Dec 18th 2007 11:14PM
do we really need another port? DVI, HDMI ,VGA, Svideo..blah blah blah
what makes display port so much better than hdmi or dvi?
Ashraf @ Dec 18th 2007 11:17PM
DRM?
DaMan09 @ Dec 18th 2007 11:53PM
DisplayPort is a royalty free and license free technology, meening possibly cheaper to make?
waiownsyou @ Dec 19th 2007 1:06AM
You've obviously never seen the now-obsolete 3007WFP or 3007WFP-HC models. The damn thing only has one DVI-input!
uagent @ Dec 19th 2007 7:41PM
From my understanding, the great part about DisplayPort is that it's the same connector for desktops and laptops, where laptops SERIOUSLY needed to standardize their screen connections (should make laptop screens interchangeable). It's also royalty-free from what I read, which theoretically makes it cheaper to produce.
brad @ Dec 18th 2007 11:25PM
i thought thats what seperated DVI and HDMI...
thank you corporate giants who cant agree on anything...the consumers stand no chance...
michael.dekmetzian @ Dec 18th 2007 11:32PM
Also available for AU$2499
http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx/30lcd?c=au&cs=audhs1&l=en&s=dhs
DVI is basically at the end of it's upgrade path, Displayport has the capability to offer more bandwidth / resolutions / colour etc as display's move forward. HDMI is more consumer oriontated..
DisplayPort is a good thing.
theycallmetak @ Dec 19th 2007 5:57PM
HDMI is more consumer oriented? HDMI is a debacle. It was basically designed by committee and is nowhere near as robust as existing coaxial RCA connections. HDMI exists to protect content, that's it.
Jared @ Dec 18th 2007 11:32PM
At least you get a free printer with purchase
jdclarke @ Dec 19th 2007 2:36AM
Too bad you don't get free ink to go along.
boe @ Dec 18th 2007 11:43PM
I love my dell 30" screen but I'm an upgrade freak so I'm always happy to get something better. This however doesn't do anything at all to get me interested in an upgrade. Even if it were at the same price as the old one it wouldn't get me interested.
If this was a 36" model with similar specs I might be mildly interested. If it was a 40" with these same specs they would actually have my attention. Looks like I'll be waiting a couple more years for Dell to have a worthy upgrade.
XpLoiT @ Dec 18th 2007 11:45PM
Hey look at me im moneybags!
DarkLightConnection @ Dec 18th 2007 11:53PM
Give me your 30" LCD when you upgrade..
I have a 15" 1024x768 CRT
Yes.. my situation is sad, I don't know why i'm reading a gadgets blog if i'm never going to buy anything until it's on the dollar store... well, guess it's the love for electronics :-)
Don Wilson @ Dec 19th 2007 12:17AM
Jealousy gets even the best of us, doesn't it XpLoiT?
Dustin Frazier @ Dec 19th 2007 7:54AM
I have no idea why you are being rated down there Boe. I completely understand what you're saying. I bought the HP 30 inch and while it's nice, it's just not big enough for what I paid. Now it just sits and collects dust while I do all my gaming and computing on my 1920x1080 42 incher. I should have just bought the bigger screen from the start since I'm not a graphic artist or photographer. To anyone reading this that is driving themselves crazy in the hopes of getting a 30" screen, don't. Spend less and get a much bigger screen.
boe @ Dec 19th 2007 11:41AM
I'm not sure why this got a low rank but everyone is entitled to their opinions. I'm surprised other people wouldn't want something bigger than 30" if Dell wants $2000. Maybe you think that price isn't too high - I just think it is a bit much for a 30" screen.
Karl @ Dec 18th 2007 11:45PM
I have a feeling the price is going to be high because of the video scaler that allows all these ports (most of which do not have the bandwidth for 2560x1600) to work. Scalers that can do 1080p or 1920x1200 have to be a dime a dozen, but one that does 2560x1600? I'm betting those are not common yet, hence the price. Reviews should be interesting.
Tyler @ Dec 18th 2007 11:47PM
i bet it shows stateside for $1600 and apple will be close behind in January to show off a competing display for a similar price.
dshankar @ Dec 19th 2007 1:14AM
Negative. It's on the US Dell website for $2034.
Jesse S @ Dec 19th 2007 1:28AM
You do know that Dell and Apple use the exact same panels, and yet the Cinemascreens cost a lot more, right?
maveric101 @ Dec 18th 2007 11:55PM
nice monitor. i need me some monies.
GTMoogle @ Dec 19th 2007 12:03AM
It'll be a fair chunk more than the 3007 HC that I have. I really doubt we'll see if for $1600, the $100 difference is too low for the scaling hardware and ports they're adding.
I'm kinda curious what the scaling hardware will do to the input lag. The 3007 is almost as fast as a CRT (I'm talking about the lag between the video card putting out a pixel and the monitor starting to change color, not the commonly stated start-change to finish that causes ghosting). The 24" panels appear to buffer 2 or 3 frames, presumably for color correction. The 24" suck for FPSs, which is why I went with the 3007. Totally worth it.
Dustin Frazier @ Dec 19th 2007 8:03AM
I had the 30" gateway with the scaler chip. The input lag was horrible. I had it setup next to a regular 20" and the cursor on the 30" didn't move until well after the cursor on the 20". It probably took an 8th of a second longer than the 20" screen. The scaler chip in the Gateway is supposed to be really high end and maybe Dell uses the same chip. Hopefully Dell did better with the input lag.
JoseQ @ Dec 19th 2007 12:05AM
Seems to be in the American website as well:
http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd&kc=&oc=3008WFP
Grant @ Dec 19th 2007 12:43AM
Sooo.. this would be a 1600p screen?
i can only imagine the beefiness of a graphics card needed to render any sort of nice looking stuff at that resolution.
I Say just get a 50" Plasma screen for that price, just forgo those extra 500 pixels, you don't need them anyways.
Dave @ Dec 19th 2007 1:19AM
by 500 do you mean 2 million?
dshankar @ Dec 19th 2007 1:11AM
Actually if you went with a 50" plasma (assuming 1080p, the best available resolution for TVs), you would actually forgo (2560 * 1600) - (1920 * 1080) pixels which is over 2 million pixels lost.
That's a lot but depending on your usage, a nice TV might be better. For example, people who also have a cable connection might want a cable hookup (without something like a TV card) in which case a TV trumps a monitor.
waiownsyou @ Dec 19th 2007 1:05AM
Damn! And I just got this 3007WFP too :(
But then again, this thing only has one DVI input, so basically it failed life from the beginning
BigDaddyM @ Dec 19th 2007 1:58AM
You monitor didn't stop working because of a press release did it?
Brandon Paddock @ Dec 19th 2007 2:21AM
I bought a 3007 a couple months ago from Costco. I'll be taking it back next week and ordering one of these, mainly so it'll have a port to hook my second 360 up to.
Neal @ Dec 19th 2007 1:12AM
Flight of the Conchords reference made me smile.
Jesse S @ Dec 19th 2007 1:29AM
So, does anyone know how the colors compare with the 3007-HC?
BigDaddyM @ Dec 19th 2007 2:00AM
Boe makes a good point, if you already have the older model, then this new one doesn't offer enough to upgrade. I think it is close, but yes not enough.
M
Gary Meyers @ Dec 19th 2007 6:43AM
Ah, I've had 2 30" HD monitors with a resolution of 2560 X 1600 for a couple years now. $1799.00 on Apple's website, less at vendors. No refurbs which means new ones are on the way.
pjnofrills @ Dec 19th 2007 1:05PM
New Zealand likes to rock the party.
foxracer2421314 @ Dec 19th 2007 1:21PM
not sure if i am just stupid but...where might this monitor be on dells website
TheCow5 @ Dec 19th 2007 1:32PM
can someone help me. I did lots of reading on HDMI and its HDCP which is totally bad.
last month I purchased a mobo for a friend to build his media center, the mobo came with an onboard DVI port and I got him a DVI to HDMI cable which plugs into his 42" LCD TV with 1080p, I gave his all of my HD .avi files whis are 720p and 1080i and they play back fine.
I am in the process of purchasing a mobo with an onboard HDMI port for a new media center, should I be worred about it playing my HD .avi files.
Brent @ Dec 19th 2007 1:16AM
Well now I suppose that would depend a lot on where you got those files from. Without admitting to pirating them HDCP is only a factor in DRM style files. (Is there anywhere that has legal .avi HD files????)
I digress, as long as it's HDCP enabled it's all gravy.
Garst @ Dec 19th 2007 3:14PM
HA! The DVI-D supports HDCP, but the HDMI doesn't!
Ok, it probably does, but should explicately state it if it does.
Crass @ Dec 20th 2007 2:35PM
The link to the US page doesn't work... :(
Neither does a search for 3008WFP...
palehorse @ Dec 20th 2007 3:45PM
$2000?! They nuts?! You could play on a 50" Plasma at an acceptable 1920x1080 for that much!
craziness!
David J. Heinrich @ Dec 28th 2007 3:19PM
When the Eizo SX3031W is expected to sell for $2,550, why go with a Dell monitor this expensive? The Eizo displays 100% of NTSC and 97% of Adobe RGB. Plus it's an Eizo, with a 5-year warranty, and presumeably many more calibration features than the Dell, along with higher build quality.
I was looking to Dell for an LCD less expensive than Eizo, not almost as expensive. Come on.
glock @ Jan 19th 2008 11:26AM
I bought this monitor to do Photoshop color work on and the one I got is totally unacceptable for use in that regard.
I calibrated using i1 Photo through every possible configuration (dvi , vga native A98 Manual factory, default , etc., on a mac using OS X with essentially the same result. If you set a NEUTRAL gray background (desktop) it is not consistent in color or density to the eye. Mine was reddish on the right, green/cyan on top yellowish across the bottom , and blotchy brightness-wise across the whole panel.
IT IS NOT THE VIEWING ANGLE-as the colors and effects did not change as you moved your head only the intensity of the defect.
The monitor profiles just fine and the gammut does closely match the A98 color space as they say- even exceeding it in the red/magenta axis, just shy in the green but if you are planning on WYSIWYG color calibrated & profiled workflow this is not gonna cut it.
FWIW I POSTED ESSENTIALLY THIS SAME INFO ON THE DELL WEBPAGE FOR THIS MONITOR AND THEY HAVE NEGLECTED TO POST IT ALONG WITH THE MORE FAVORABLE LESS CRITICAL REVIEWS.
I even said that for for less critical applications this would probably be an awesome monitor.
I have 2 older Dell displays (2405's) that are not nearly as advanced as this one that I use daily for color work for years now and they do not display the same anomalies as the 3008 WFP .
ALSO their "TECH SUPPORT" is a JOKE. They read to you from the user manual that you get with the purchase.
THERE IS NO MONITOR EXPERT TO HELP SOLVE ANY PROBLEMS OTHER THAN BASIC SET UP FUNCTION and CONNECTIVITY
BUYER BEWARE.
But that's just my experience, your mileage may vary...
sadbuyer @ Jan 26th 2008 2:16AM
It gets even worse than your experience.
I purchased the monitor as part of a high end media center blu-ray system. Normal high res 2560x1600 monitors will display HDCP content at the highest resolution IF they are HDCP compliant. In other words, even though HD 1080p resolution is 1920x1080, the monitor scales properly and displays content even when your desktop is at 2560x1600.
The new 3008WFP does NOT work in this scenario. You must actually lower the desktop resolution to 1920x1080 because this monitor will not display HDCP content at any resolution over 1080p! In fact, the monitor doesn't even display HDCP content at a proper aspect ratio of 1920x1200! So all your Blu-ray movies and Media Center HDTV will appear distortedwith a vertical stretching appearance.
Dell higher ups have confirmed this is a problem with the chipset and they are redesigning the monitor. Since front line Dell Technical staff knows nothing about this, owners of this monitor will be unpleasantly surprised if and when they decide to try HDCP content. But by then, it will be too late to return the monitor and you will be stuck with a $2,000 non-HDCP paper weight that is past its return period.
glock @ Jan 29th 2008 11:55AM
Wow. Surprisingly, other than you and me, I don't hear anyone else complaining.
How do you know Dell "higher ups" have confirmed this??
I'm looking @ the new NEC 30" due to be released in February 30" NEC MultiSync LCD3090WQXi, see it here
http://www.necdisplay.com/Products/Product/?product=4af7b335-9302-4429-8d73-74c35a363b57
gdieter @ Jan 30th 2008 2:10AM
I was really interested in the NEC as well, but look closely at the specs on the page you provided the link for. Under the Technologies tab, last item reads as follows: "Image resolution of 1920 x 1080 with Full HD 1080p capability."
To me this implies this monitor is limited to 1920 resolution for 1080p, just like the Dell. I don't think this one is going to upscale to 2560 x 1600 either.